Discussion RDNA4 + CDNA3 Architectures Thread

[DisEnchantment]

With the GFX940 patches in full swing since first week of March, it is looking like MI300 is not far in the distant future!
Usually AMD takes around 3Qs to get the support in LLVM and amdgpu. Lately, since RDNA2 the window they push to add support for new devices is much reduced to prevent leaks.
But looking at the flurry of code in LLVM, it is a lot of commits. Maybe because US Govt is starting to prepare the SW environment for El Capitan (Maybe to avoid slow bring up situation like Frontier for example)

See here for the GFX940 specific commits

History for llvm/lib/Target/AMDGPU - llvm/llvm-project

The LLVM Project is a collection of modular and reusable compiler and toolchain technologies. - History for llvm/lib/Target/AMDGPU - llvm/llvm-project

github.com

Or Phoronix

More AMD "GFX940" Enablement Work Landing In LLVM - Phoronix

www.phoronix.com

There is a lot more if you know whom to follow in LLVM review chains (before getting merged to github), but I am not going to link AMD employees.

I am starting to think MI300 will launch around the same time like Hopper probably only a couple of months later!
Although I believe Hopper had problems not having a host CPU capable of doing PCIe 5 in the very near future therefore it might have gotten pushed back a bit until SPR and Genoa arrives later in 2022.
If PVC slips again I believe MI300 could launch before it

This is nuts, MI100/200/300 cadence is impressive.



Previous thread on CDNA2 and RDNA3 here

Question - Speculation: RDNA3 + CDNA2 Architectures Thread

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[blackangus]

Nvidia hadn't fumbled launch and you could walk into any computer store and walk out with a $750 5070 Ti then how many people are going to be choosing a $600 9070 XT?

I'd hope a 150$ difference for nearly the same performance goes along way.
And for me it did, I buy for value per $ within an acceptable performance range.

 

[blackangus]

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Sorted by sold items and highest price first. If you scroll through many, you'll see how the sold price generally falls slowly as the release date gets farther away. The panicked gamer has done generational damage, yet again, with their absolutely insane, unhinged, lunatic buying behavior. By purchasing at these prices, the zombified, brain dead gamer has sent an enormous bat signal style message in the skies above to the world that they crave, love, and enjoy higher GPU prices now and in the future.

Thanks!
And while its really not that many.... It is WAY too many!
That is just insane anyone would pay that much for a 9070xt.

Makes me wonder if its not scalpers all the way down, and not gamers.

 

[moonbogg]

The gamer has demonstrated through their buying behavior (not their proclamations on the internet) that they prefer prices to increase each generation for the same class of product. This makes them feel like it's their turn to pay a fancy price for their preferred product, and to brag about owning it. They enjoy this process until they find themselves trying to upgrade to a 50 class card for $800 and end up going without instead because now they finally can't justify going into debt for a card that crappy.

 

[blackangus]

The gamer has demonstrated through their buying behavior (not their proclamations on the internet) that they prefer prices to increase each generation for the same class of product. This makes them feel like it's their turn to pay a fancy price for their preferred product, and to brag about owning it. They enjoy this process until they find themselves trying to upgrade to a 50 class card for $800 and end up going without instead because now they finally can't justify going into debt for a card that crappy.

So true. Im going to retreat into my reality where people are reasonable.....

 

[moonbogg]

So true. Im going to retreat into my reality where people are reasonable.....

Stop it. Stay here and complain with me.

 

[Keller_TT]

The gamer has demonstrated through their buying behavior (not their proclamations on the internet) that they prefer prices to increase each generation for the same class of product. This makes them feel like it's their turn to pay a fancy price for their preferred product, and to brag about owning it. They enjoy this process until they find themselves trying to upgrade to a 50 class card for $800 and end up going without instead because now they finally can't justify going into debt for a card that crappy.

These numbers are a drop in the ocean for the market size by the 100s of thousands of mainstream buyers considering Radeon for upgrades (I would put it in millions for those buying Nvidia). The numbers would anyways swell to millions over a year for AMD too.
With 9070 series competitiveness against Nvidia's worst slip up in recent memory, this situation was largely mitigatable if AMD wanted to. They had a LOT of time to gauge market sentiment. And AMD doesn't really have much to stand on with 9060 series with much nerfed cards.

We can see from earlier posts that most people are not buying even +100 to 150 inflated prices. Lack of sales will force hands anyways, and NV supply situation too will be much better in the medium term.

 

[Saylick]

The gamer has demonstrated through their buying behavior (not their proclamations on the internet) that they prefer prices to increase each generation for the same class of product. This makes them feel like it's their turn to pay a fancy price for their preferred product, and to brag about owning it. They enjoy this process until they find themselves trying to upgrade to a 50 class card for $800 and end up going without instead because now they finally can't justify going into debt for a card that crappy.

To hijack a well-known quote about a time long gone:

First, the price hikes affected the budget gamers.

And I did not speak out, because I was not a budget gamer.

Then the price hikes affected the mainstream gamers.

And I did not speak out, because I was not a mainstream gamer.

Then the price hikes affected the performance gamers.

And I did not speak out, because I was not an performance gamer.

Then the price hikes affected the enthusiast gamers.

But I did not speak out, because I was not an enthusiast gamer.

Then the price hikes affected me, the flagship-GPU-only gamer.

And there was no one left

To speak up for me!

 

[itsmydamnation]

To hijack a well-known quote about a time long gone:

we will fight them on the VR beaches
we will fight them in the pixel steets
we will fight them in the ray traced hills
we will never surrender

 

[blackangus]

we will fight them on the VR beaches
we will fight them in the pixel steets
we will fight them in the ray traced hills
we will never surrender

except everyone surrendered.

 

[sandorski]

except everyone surrendered.

Moar papers please!