It used to be a top end model would be around $80-100 over MSRP, or around 10-15% markup. [Excluding rare, special XOC models like K|NGP|N or HOF]
Now we are seeing $200, $300, $500, even over $1000 markup which is on the range of 30%, 40%, 50%+ in some cases for normal, air cooled cards.
Please, explain to me why this is ok?
Ok I am writing 10 pages early, bare with me.
It is not ok is my answer. BUT stupid anticipated tariffs are making people jump.
If I would have known 9070XT would be as good as is, I would not have bought a 7900xtx last late November. But I got it under a grand brand new. Sapphire Nitro.
The prices have increased by $100 and that's why retailers are stupid. People have no issue punching their grandmother in the throat and stealing her social security for GPU money. They could have jacked the prices up $300 across the board and they'd still get scalped for double that cost at least. Also, how can I make sure our resident autist extraordinaire knows I didn't mean any disrespect to him? If he's that smart then that makes him kind of scary, sort of in a Mr. Robot kind of way.
I hope this refers to someone else. I am not sure ATM.
People arent willing to pay as much as you seem to think. Most scalpers listings are around $1000-1200 and aren't selling.
This ebay listing ended without hitting reserve at $180 over retailer pricing ($760)
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Heck, newegg is selling cards in combos with a $120 power supply and they arent selling quickly at all. People aren't super willing to pay even $120 extra despite getting something for it they can use or resell to cover most of that additional cost.
When I caught my 9800x3d during 2nd or 3rd week, Newegg backorder came a week early, I seen all of the bundles they made while single chip was sold out. In hindsight, I should have bought the bundle and sold not wanted parts off. It would have saved me money but not trouble/time. I had no problem paying the 479 retail for 9800x3d. Heck, back in the day I spent 1k for a 6600k but those were extenuating circumstances. ( I had the money to burn).
I did see that very early on ALOT of chips went into bundle deals, but I wanted to see what X870E brought, and needed at minimum a PCIEx1 slot for sound card.
Wow, another plus for AMD. They're so undesirable that cannot even be scalped in this market!
0 mindshare doing the Lord's work right now
Reminded me of the series "The Deathgate Cycle" just bought and revisited on audio book. Dragon Lance authors btw.
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Sorted by sold items and highest price first. If you scroll through many, you'll see how the sold price generally falls slowly as the release date gets farther away. The panicked gamer has done generational damage, yet again, with their absolutely insane, unhinged, lunatic buying behavior. By purchasing at these prices, the zombified, brain dead gamer has sent an enormous bat signal style message in the skies above to the world that they crave, love, and enjoy higher GPU prices now and in the future.
It feels like or seems like you still think of the panicked gamer as someone that has still not graduated high school. Most have are are pulling down pretty decent disposable income. Possibly from scalping all the way back in the 290x days. Since they got older maybe started scalping larger items like 2020 Ford Broncos just to name one.
These numbers are a drop in the ocean for the market size by the 100s of thousands of mainstream buyers considering Radeon for upgrades (I would put it in millions for those buying Nvidia). The numbers would anyways swell to millions over a year for AMD too.
With 9070 series competitiveness against Nvidia's worst slip up in recent memory, this situation was largely mitigatable if AMD wanted to. They had a LOT of time to gauge market sentiment. And AMD doesn't really have much to stand on with 9060 series with much nerfed cards.
We can see from earlier posts that most people are not buying even +100 to 150 inflated prices. Lack of sales will force hands anyways, and NV supply situation too will be much better in the medium term.
Problem is Nvidia's AIB partners inflated prices. Might be tariff fears, or just gross greedflation.
Take 7900 XTX and update to modern RDNA5 main chiplet - at least 600 sq mm, 384 bit GDDR7 plus at least 256 MB cache, let it be 600W card.
In jest, we can't have an AMD card pulling that much power, heck, the 9070xts doing over 300 is a carnal sin. Even though 40/5090 @ 600w is A OK.
I just upgraded my XTX VBIOS to the aqua XOC 550w one. At least Arock had the stones to put it out. It does compete with 4090 in benchmarks. Well you have to look on OCN for that, had to double check witch tab I was on.
Meh. The frequency and power is already juiced enough on XT...the price is too, now. They should just produce as many of those as possible and not waste time on this.
I just can't figure you out. You complain about AMD power usage, but lower tier Nvidia is good? Is that what I am missing? You are a mid tier board seeker and can't stand that 9070xt was raised by AIB to what 320w and 5070/ti is what something supposedly like 220w?
What about the missing ROPs?