Real Estate Camera Recommendations?

a123456

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I'm helping out a broker who wants a camera for real estate photography. It'll be mostly daytime photos for listings on properties. Currently, he uses a P+S camera, which is obviously not as professional as could be.

The main thing is getting some good wide angle shots. One big thing was to have more things in focus at a time (e.g. seeing both the room and the view outside clearly, if that's possible instead of just having a clear picture on the foreground or the background).

I did a little bit of research.

1. One option was something mirrorless like the NEX-3 or NEX-5. One question I have on this. It comes with a 16mm pancake lens, which is 24mm (35mm equiv). Is this the same "field of view" as the 24mm lens on a P+S (like the 24mm lens on the Canon 300HS)? Or do you have to multiply something on the P+S also? Because if it's the same, that kind of seems like a letdown.

Seems to be around 600-700 dollars for one of these types, which is not bad.

2. Something more high end, like a basic DSLR body (like a T2i/T3i). The basic 18-55mm doesn't seem that great since it's not as wide as the 16mm above. Combine that with something like the Canon 10-22mm lens, which seems like it would work. Total cost is a little higher, though since the lens alone is around 800-900?

3. Something else?

For the focus problem, one of my friends suggested some wide lens and then shooting at f/8 or f/6 to get more things in focus and then using a tripod for any shutter speed issues. Would this actually work? Lighting shouldn't be an issue for the most part since I think it's possible to turn on some lights or shoot during the day time.

So big question: is the cheaper mirrorless going to have as good or almost as good image quality for this situation? If f/8 is the way to go, does that mean the NEX is a bad idea because it seems like it's designed to be mostly auto.

Video and other fancy features not really a big deal and unlikely to be used. IQ + super wide are the main factors. Thanks.
 

Lotheron

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I would look at the DSLRs as it will give you much more control over the pictures and you have the benefit of the awesome lenses that you can get. With Real Estate, you need the widest lens you can get to get.

I prefer Canon, but you can't go wrong with a good Nikon either. If you're looking at T2i/T3i, The T3i isn't worth the price increase from what you can get a T2i for. You might as well get a 60D for what you're paying for the T3i. You can get refurbished T2is for $500-600 dollars.

I read about REs using wide angle lens' such as the Tokina 11-16, 12-24 and the Sigma 12-20. The Tokina 11-16 is a f/2.8 lens which is probably pretty wide open for RE use, but its only $600 or so. The good thing about this is the more open the aperture, the sharper they get when they start stepping down.

Just make sure you have a good Tripod and get a remote to set the shutter speed up in low light situations. That makes it easy to be at f/8+ even in lower light situations.
 
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a123456

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Yeah, the T2i is probably the better buy right now. The 60D doesn't really look like it offers anything usable in this particular situation, no?

Regarding the lens, how much difference are we talking about between the 11mm @ f/2.8 vs 10mm @ f/3.5 when you step down a lot? Or is it basically just the same? Still 10% wider seems nice.

Newbie question: Why do you need a remote for setting the shutter speed for low light? Granted, I think almost everything will be taken in situations where there's lots of light.
 
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Lotheron

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The major difference comes from the fact that most lenses aren't as sharp wide open and they start getting sharper as you step down. So for the f/2.8 lens, you get closer to the "sweet spot" so to speak faster, say starting at f/3.5 - f/4.

Here's what I'm talking about: http://yanikphotoschool.com/tutorials/how-to-find-your-lens-sweet-spot/

I'm saying get a remote/tripod for those that shots require a longer shutter speed. For those shots that require half a second shutter speed, you aren't typically going to be able to hand hold it so using a tripod is going be a better option. In using a remote, you will not bump the tripod when pressing the shutter button thus causing the camera to move during the shot. A remote will allow you to take the picture with a completely still camera.

If you're always going to be shooting in situations where you'll have plenty of light then perhaps you do not need one, but you can get one pretty cheap as they run less than $20 from amazon so it might be something to have in your bag of tricks. I still recommend a Tripod though.
 

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For the broker's purposes, a fast aperture lens probably won't make a difference. In order to get the entire shot in focus, you would probably have to stop down to f/8 or f/11. I'm not sure if 16mm is even wide enough for certain shots on a crop sensor. The 10-22 sounds like the better option.

I don't have much experience but from viewing lots of pictures, lighting makes the biggest difference. Moreso than what camera you're using. Even with interior lights on, a creative use of flash and lighting is what gives that professional look.
 
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actuarial

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I've read good things about the Tokina 11-16mm, and it's cheaper than the Nikon/Canon offerings on ultrawide.

Pair that with a t2i (I don't think it'll autofocus on a D3000/D500 but that may not make much of a difference if stopped down because it'll have depth of field for days) and you'll have a pretty good setup.

Hell, pair it with a used XSi or XTi and you'll still get awesome photos.

At 11mm you won't need to stop very far down to get everything in focus, which will help with lighting.
 

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Hi, I'm selling my Canon kit including the Tokina 11-16 f2.8. I've switched to Nikon to get more than 3AEB frames for blending and HDR. All the photos on my site www.scottdphotos.com were taken with this equipment...

Canon XTi (x2) bodies
Tokina 11-16mm f2.8 lens - just had it calibrated by Tokina so tack sharp
Canon 18-55mm E-FS IS f3.5-5.6 lens with image stabilization
Sigma 30mm f1.4 lens
Canon 430EX Speedlite flash
Battery charger CB-2LW and three batteries NB2L
Circular polarizer 58mm
Yongnuo YN-128 wired/RF remote

PM me if interested, thanks. Scott
 

JohnnyRebel

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I'm helping out a broker who wants a camera for real estate photography. It'll be mostly daytime photos for listings on properties. Currently, he uses a P+S camera, which is obviously not as professional as could be.

The main thing is getting some good wide angle shots. One big thing was to have more things in focus at a time (e.g. seeing both the room and the view outside clearly, if that's possible instead of just having a clear picture on the foreground or the background).

I did a little bit of research.

1. One option was something mirrorless like the NEX-3 or NEX-5. One question I have on this. It comes with a 16mm pancake lens, which is 24mm (35mm equiv). Is this the same "field of view" as the 24mm lens on a P+S (like the 24mm lens on the Canon 300HS)? Or do you have to multiply something on the P+S also? Because if it's the same, that kind of seems like a letdown.

Seems to be around 600-700 dollars for one of these types, which is not bad.

2. Something more high end, like a basic DSLR body (like a T2i/T3i). The basic 18-55mm doesn't seem that great since it's not as wide as the 16mm above. Combine that with something like the Canon 10-22mm lens, which seems like it would work. Total cost is a little higher, though since the lens alone is around 800-900?

3. Something else?

For the focus problem, one of my friends suggested some wide lens and then shooting at f/8 or f/6 to get more things in focus and then using a tripod for any shutter speed issues. Would this actually work? Lighting shouldn't be an issue for the most part since I think it's possible to turn on some lights or shoot during the day time.

So big question: is the cheaper mirrorless going to have as good or almost as good image quality for this situation? If f/8 is the way to go, does that mean the NEX is a bad idea because it seems like it's designed to be mostly auto.

Video and other fancy features not really a big deal and unlikely to be used. IQ + super wide are the main factors. Thanks.

How about an old IPIX system? We still use one with the old Coolpix 995 at work.

http://cgi.ebay.com/iPIX-Virtual-To...mcorder_Accessory_Bundles&hash=item5888ea1b2d

http://www.ipix.com/products_realestate.html

JR
 

a123456

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I kind of gave up on it. He ended up being too scared of settings on any DSLR cameras and wanted something compact with good full auto to take on vacations too. So in the end, something like a NEX-5 was as point and shoot as you can get with a bigger sensor than a typical 1/2.3".
 

bobdole369

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As someone who has been exposed to RE agents, photography in real estate, and how it all relates to the Internet - Never give those folks anything with controls they can screw up. A DSLR in the hands of a broker is like giving a ferrari to a 12 yr old.

Good choice not pushing the matter. A P&S is all that is needed in this field. In the right hands - a dslr makes sense, but not with someone who only wants "good pictures" on the site and isn't interested in exposure, the artistry involved, composure, etc.
 

oogabooga

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They will probably be happier with a simpler camera and get decent results still. They might want to pick up a tripod at some point anyway, might make some shots (indoor/lowlight) easier to take, but I'd imagine a simple camera they can use + tripod would net better results than a camera they don't know how to use (perhaps plus tripod).

Also - this way you don't have to support whatever dslr they get
 
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