Real-world impressions of going from P4 to AMD64 3200+...**UPDATE** Up and Running...FINALLY :)

[NFS4]

I saw this over at ABXZone...nice writeup:

http://www.abxzone.com/forums/showthread.php?s=2f5e0b4a32ce2f5206886ff27d757395&threadid=55756

My AMD Athlon 64 3200+ / FIC K8-800T combo should be here by the end of the week

 

[Slogun]

"To boldly go where no man has gone before...."

 

[vetteguy]

I guess I really don't see the point of going from a top-of-the-line Intel setup to an Athlon64 system, at least not right now. The 3GHz system you have (had) should surely hang pretty close to the 64. I'm not hating on the 64, but I just think that it might have been a better use of your money to wait until you were ready to upgrade anyway.

 

[Mem]

I guess I really don't see the point of going from a top-of-the-line Intel setup to an Athlon64 system, at least not right now. The 3GHz system you have (had) should surely hang pretty close to the 64. I'm not hating on the 64, but I just think that it might have been a better use of your money to wait until you were ready to upgrade anyway.

I`m going to wait as well,another 6 months at least for me,I want PCI-Express and cheaper faster Athlon 64,so waiting seems like the best thing to do .

 

[NFS4]

Originally posted by: vetteguy
I guess I really don't see the point of going from a top-of-the-line Intel setup to an Athlon64 system, at least not right now. The 3GHz system you have (had) should surely hang pretty close to the 64. I'm not hating on the 64, but I just think that it might have been a better use of your money to wait until you were ready to upgrade anyway.

(1) My P4 puts out an insane amount of heat...even with a Zalman CNPS7000-AlCu
(2) I upgrade my system every 4-6 months anyway
(3) I can afford it. Hell, I can cover the purchase of this upgrade alone on my rebate checks from all the crap I buy and sell on eBay from HotDeals/F@tWallet
(4) My total outlay will only be about $250 after I sell my processor + mobo
(5) I'd like to experiment a bit with 64-bit Windows XP as I should have a beta copy of it on the way

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: NFS4

Originally posted by: vetteguy
I guess I really don't see the point of going from a top-of-the-line Intel setup to an Athlon64 system, at least not right now. The 3GHz system you have (had) should surely hang pretty close to the 64. I'm not hating on the 64, but I just think that it might have been a better use of your money to wait until you were ready to upgrade anyway.

(1) My P4 puts out an insane amount of heat...even with a Zalman CNPS7000-AlCu
(2) I upgrade my system every 4-6 months anyway
(3) I can afford it. Hell, I can cover the purchase of this upgrade alone on my rebate checks from all the crap I buy and sell on eBay from HotDeals/F@tWallet
(4) My total outlay will only be about $250 after I sell my processor + mobo
(5) I'd like to experiment a bit with 64-bit Windows XP as I should have a beta copy of it on the way

Good for you Brandon, I wish I had the disposable income for toys like that!

 

[NFS4]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: NFS4

Originally posted by: vetteguy
I guess I really don't see the point of going from a top-of-the-line Intel setup to an Athlon64 system, at least not right now. The 3GHz system you have (had) should surely hang pretty close to the 64. I'm not hating on the 64, but I just think that it might have been a better use of your money to wait until you were ready to upgrade anyway.

(1) My P4 puts out an insane amount of heat...even with a Zalman CNPS7000-AlCu
(2) I upgrade my system every 4-6 months anyway
(3) I can afford it. Hell, I can cover the purchase of this upgrade alone on my rebate checks from all the crap I buy and sell on eBay from HotDeals/F@tWallet
(4) My total outlay will only be about $250 after I sell my processor + mobo
(5) I'd like to experiment a bit with 64-bit Windows XP as I should have a beta copy of it on the way

Good for you Brandon, I wish I had the disposable income for toys like that!

Well, not disposable. It's just that I set aside a certain amount of money during the year for upgrades. And when that "time" comes, I already have the money there for the purchase.

 

[Pandaren]

I saw this over at ABXZone...nice writeup

He didn't say much that wasn't already covered at Anand's and Ace's (well, except for the fanboi comments like "I don't notice that it's much faster... but I know it is... blah blah... 64-bit XP will be like a whole new system..."

As much as I like the Athlon 64, mushy comments like that make me want to puke.

 

[Dug]

Originally posted by: NFS4

Originally posted by: vetteguy
I guess I really don't see the point of going from a top-of-the-line Intel setup to an Athlon64 system, at least not right now. The 3GHz system you have (had) should surely hang pretty close to the 64. I'm not hating on the 64, but I just think that it might have been a better use of your money to wait until you were ready to upgrade anyway.

(1) My P4 puts out an insane amount of heat...even with a Zalman CNPS7000-AlCu
(2) I upgrade my system every 4-6 months anyway
(3) I can afford it. Hell, I can cover the purchase of this upgrade alone on my rebate checks from all the crap I buy and sell on eBay from HotDeals/F@tWallet
(4) My total outlay will only be about $250 after I sell my processor + mobo
(5) I'd like to experiment a bit with 64-bit Windows XP as I should have a beta copy of it on the way

I'd look into getting one now too, but the pincount is changing too quick for me.
That, and I definately want 64bit os up and running before purchasing.

 

[Regs]

I save 100 dollars a month ever since I quit smoking : - ) . I'm still not buying a 700 dollar set up though. In 2 months the price will drop on the 3200 hammer, and hopefully better equipped Nforce 3's will come out.

 

[Markfw]

Originally posted by: Pandaren

I saw this over at ABXZone...nice writeup

He didn't say much that wasn't already covered at Anand's and Ace's (well, except for the fanboi comments like "I don't notice that it's much faster... but I know it is... blah blah... 64-bit XP will be like a whole new system..."

As much as I like the Athlon 64, mushy comments like that make me want to puke.

I don't know how you can justify calling him a fanboi, when he had an Intel setup, and he did do some benchmarks that showed it faster. He even said it was only a little faster. But smoother in games, which is the Athlon64's strong point. And most people I have read says then WHEN 64 bit OS AND the games come in 64 bit, they probably will be 10-20% faster. Let him be happy with his new toy.......

 

[fkloster]

That purchase 'alone' should help AMD out a bit don't you think?

 

[Excelsior]

Hmm..it seems I will be going to an Athlon64 setup in the next 8 months.

 

[NFS4]

Originally posted by: fkloster
That purchase 'alone' should help AMD out a bit don't you think?

Says the "ORIGINAL" Rambus lover

I haven't forgotten, old man

 

[Dug]

Originally posted by: NFS4

Originally posted by: fkloster
That purchase 'alone' should help AMD out a bit don't you think?

Says the "ORIGINAL" Rambus lover

I haven't forgotten, old man

lol!

 

[Chadder007]

When is WinXP 64 coming out anyway??

Also from that post of the guys experience.....he says Prescott is going to have the 64 bit instruction set from AMD. Is that true???

I havent' been this excited about new hardware in a while...

 

[*kjm]

Originally posted by: NFS4

Originally posted by: vetteguy
I guess I really don't see the point of going from a top-of-the-line Intel setup to an Athlon64 system, at least not right now. The 3GHz system you have (had) should surely hang pretty close to the 64. I'm not hating on the 64, but I just think that it might have been a better use of your money to wait until you were ready to upgrade anyway.

(1) My P4 puts out an insane amount of heat...even with a Zalman CNPS7000-AlCu
(2) I upgrade my system every 4-6 months anyway
(3) I can afford it. Hell, I can cover the purchase of this upgrade alone on my rebate checks from all the crap I buy and sell on eBay from HotDeals/F@tWallet
(4) My total outlay will only be about $250 after I sell my processor + mobo
(5) I'd like to experiment a bit with 64-bit Windows XP as I should have a beta copy of it on the way

NFS4 on point #5 is that something any of us could send for and if so could you link it?

 

[Excelsior]

Originally posted by: *kjm

Originally posted by: NFS4

Originally posted by: vetteguy
I guess I really don't see the point of going from a top-of-the-line Intel setup to an Athlon64 system, at least not right now. The 3GHz system you have (had) should surely hang pretty close to the 64. I'm not hating on the 64, but I just think that it might have been a better use of your money to wait until you were ready to upgrade anyway.

(1) My P4 puts out an insane amount of heat...even with a Zalman CNPS7000-AlCu
(2) I upgrade my system every 4-6 months anyway
(3) I can afford it. Hell, I can cover the purchase of this upgrade alone on my rebate checks from all the crap I buy and sell on eBay from HotDeals/F@tWallet
(4) My total outlay will only be about $250 after I sell my processor + mobo
(5) I'd like to experiment a bit with 64-bit Windows XP as I should have a beta copy of it on the way

NFS4 on point #5 is that something any of us could send for and if so could you link it?

(6) I have a beta copy of UT2003 64bit edition on the way. *ahem*

 

[Regs]

(6) I have a beta copy of UT2003 64bit edition on the way. *ahem*

They made a game supported for an operating system that isn't even out yet? Impressive. It will be kind of hard for direct x on XP to utilize 64 bit anything or the extra registers the 64 offers.

 

[Excelsior]

Originally posted by: Regs

(6) I have a beta copy of UT2003 64bit edition on the way. *ahem*

They made a game supported for an operating system that isn't even out yet? Impressive. It will be kind of hard for direct x on XP to utilize 64 bit anything or the extra registers the 64 offers.

Well it has been old news.

Here.

 

[cmdrdredd]

i'm not itchin to beta test an OS when the non beta has enough trouble already.

And let's not get me started on the single game you can even use in 64bit *yawn*

Don't get me wrong it is a very promising chip, but I think that right now neither the price (which is way too high) or the lack of software is worth it.

 

[ahsia]

I always say unless you are running applications that require insane amount of processing power, there is really no need for the TOP of the line processor. I can imagine something like a 2.4C P4 or a XP 2600+ can handle anything you throw at it. In the end, it is how much memory, and how fast your hard drive that will make any real world differences.

 

[Wingznut]

Originally posted by: ahsia
I always say unless you are running applications that require insane amount of processing power, there is really no need for the TOP of the line processor. I can imagine something like a 2.4C P4 or a XP 2600+ can handle anything you throw at it. In the end, it is how much memory, and how fast your hard drive that will make any real world differences.

It has nothing to do with "need"... There's a new kid on the block (A64), and NFS4 just wants to play with him.

 

[cmdrdredd]

Originally posted by: ahsia
I always say unless you are running applications that require insane amount of processing power, there is really no need for the TOP of the line processor. I can imagine something like a 2.4C P4 or a XP 2600+ can handle anything you throw at it. In the end, it is how much memory, and how fast your hard drive that will make any real world differences.

Some people don't feel that way though and always buy the most expensive fastest stuff so they can brag about how they are x amount faster in such and such benchmark/game. I agree that if you are gaming that there is a point where you need nothing more. For instance if you can get 60fps in a game and the next step up in hardware gets you 70fps and that hardware is $400 more it is not worth it.

 

[NFS4]

Originally posted by: Wingznut

Originally posted by: ahsia
I always say unless you are running applications that require insane amount of processing power, there is really no need for the TOP of the line processor. I can imagine something like a 2.4C P4 or a XP 2600+ can handle anything you throw at it. In the end, it is how much memory, and how fast your hard drive that will make any real world differences.

It has nothing to do with "need"... There's a new kid on the block (A64), and NFS4 just wants to play with him.

LOL, this is my first time stepping up to a top of the line CPU. I've always bought low-end and overclocked (and most of the time getting the shaft by getting "bum" chips). This time, I just feel like going all out