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ShawnD1

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Yes, I didn't say Stewart was some Obama bot, he's mostly reasonable and fair. Still a clearly a liberal / progressive whatever you want to call it though.

Hes funny, I like him, would probably disagree with him on a lot on his views though. He has his right to his beliefs.
This. Both shows try to stay somewhat fair, but it's pretty obvious which side they lean.

Overall the video didn't seem to bad. It didn't have stupid shit like Obama is a Muslim or that Obama will give you free cash money from his personal stash. Just some young people having fun
 

Fear No Evil

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Basically this. These "dumb liberals" were not really that bad and you could see them Thinking and actually Realizing when they were off the mark. Try that at a Tea Party.

LOL. You libs can justify anything in your minds can't you? How do you explain the lack of black people? Because we know how you explain it at the Tea Party rallies. They're racist but they know they are racist so its OK? They're stupid but they know they are stupid so its OK?

/Facepalm. Is it really surprising to you guys that just 2 years after Bush left office people are screaming for the Republicans back? We have a moron for a President, but at least he realizes he's a moron so I guess its OK.
 

sandorski

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LOL. You libs can justify anything in your minds can't you? How do you explain the lack of black people? Because we know how you explain it at the Tea Party rallies. They're racist but they know they are racist so its OK? They're stupid but they know they are stupid so its OK?

/Facepalm. Is it really surprising to you guys that just 2 years after Bush left office people are screaming for the Republicans back? We have a moron for a President, but at least he realizes he's a moron so I guess its OK.

Was there a lack of Black People? I saw many during the coverage of the Rally.
 

dammitgibs

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I think those of you arguing over which rally was more predominantly white are missing the point.
 
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Colbert hit on another one with his "every point has a counterpoint, it's physics" comment at the rally. It's absurd how so many folks can only seem to think in terms of one side vs. another. It's like it's some god damn football game.
 

Fear No Evil

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Colbert hit on another one with his "every point has a counterpoint, it's physics" comment at the rally. It's absurd how so many folks can only seem to think in terms of one side vs. another. It's like it's some god damn football game.

That's funny because how many times have we been told by the left that the 'debate is over' on issues? How many people at this rally are going to vote R tomorrow? My guess is about .001%. If that was Colbert's point, the crowd certainly doesn't believe it.
 

Amused

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Colbert pointed out the obvious some while back-



It's funny because it's true, and might be the most profound one-liner ever uttered.

The fact that you can't see the bias in the statement itself only shows your own bias.

Facts that APPEAL to you have YOUR bias. His statement only shows that he has a liberal bias. That his statement appeals to you shows you have a "liberal bias."

And finally, there is very little "liberal" about the modern American left. If "facts" had a "liberal" bias they'd be libertarian. As liberal means "free" and less authoritarianism. The modern American left seeks to increase government authority over our lives.
 

Fear No Evil

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Clearly with John Legend and The Roots opening and performing throughout it was really intended to be just one huge Klan meeting.

The Republicans have a black man as leader of their entire party. Does that exclude them from being racists as well? We have NPR throwing the only black person with their own show off the air after he dares to address his own views on racism against Muslim's and that's not racism. I suspect the left would probably justify a Klan meeting as somehow not being racist as long are they check the lever for the Democrat.
 

ShawnD1

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Colbert hit on another one with his "every point has a counterpoint, it's physics" comment at the rally. It's absurd how so many folks can only seem to think in terms of one side vs. another. It's like it's some god damn football game.

This was covered in Cracked.com's article about bullshit things in the media. Aside from things like asking opinions of people who don't know anything (asking street people about complicated socioeconomic problems), one common media game is to try to stay in the middle of a debate rather than staying near reality. For example, there is a viral video on youtube about a debate in Iraq about flat earth vs round earth. The middle ground of the debate is that both points are equally valid. Staying closer to reality would mean assuming the earth is round and listening to some random weirdo try to explain how it's flat.


Facts have a Liberal bias
I know it's shocking, but this is only true the US. While countries like UK debate things like increasing or decreasing funding of public education, the US is debating whether or not evolution is real and whether or not winter is caused by demons.
 
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The fact that you can't see the bias in the statement itself only shows your own bias.

Facts that APPEAL to you have YOUR bias. His statement only shows that he has a liberal bias. That his statement appeals to you shows you have a "liberal bias."

And finally, there is very little "liberal" about the modern American left. If "facts" had a "liberal" bias they'd be libertarian. As liberal means "free" and less authoritarianism. The modern American left seeks to increase government authority over our lives.

There you go asserting that for a fact to appeal to someone it must be based on a liberal or conservative bias instead of the appeal that the statement simply may be factually accurate. But in any event, the point Colbert was making with that comment is a lot of people seem to have a habit of dismissing things they don't agree with as a difference of political opinion, as opposed to themselves being demonstrably, factually wrong. I leave it up to you to decide which "side" seems to be more guilty of that.
 

Throckmorton

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LOL. You libs can justify anything in your minds can't you? How do you explain the lack of black people? Because we know how you explain it at the Tea Party rallies. They're racist but they know they are racist so its OK? They're stupid but they know they are stupid so its OK?

/Facepalm. Is it really surprising to you guys that just 2 years after Bush left office people are screaming for the Republicans back? We have a moron for a President, but at least he realizes he's a moron so I guess its OK.

Did you notice Jon Stewart's line about distinguishing Tea Partiers from racists? Or did you not watch the rally and have no idea what it was about?
 
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ShawnD1

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There you go asserting that for a fact to appeal to someone it must be based on a liberal or conservative bias instead of the appeal that the statement simply may be factually accurate. But in any event, the point Colbert was making with that comment is a lot of people seem to have a habit of dismissing things they don't agree with as a difference of political opinion, as opposed to themselves being demonstrably, factually wrong. I leave it up to you to decide which "side" seems to be more guilty of that.

God damn liberals pull this all the time. My bible clearly states the earth was created in 6 days, and they just refuse to accept it. It doesn't matter how many bibles I show them or how many priests prove their asses wrong, they keep insisting that it took billions of years.
 

BoberFett

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There you go asserting that for a fact to appeal to someone it must be based on a liberal or conservative bias instead of the appeal that the statement simply may be factually accurate. But in any event, the point Colbert was making with that comment is a lot of people seem to have a habit of dismissing things they don't agree with as a difference of political opinion, as opposed to themselves being demonstrably, factually wrong. I leave it up to you to decide which "side" seems to be more guilty of that.

The Republicans are frequently factually wrong, and the Democrats worry more about pointing out how wrong the Republicans are than being right about anything themselves. Sad.

I'm voting for third parties again.
 
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The fact that you can't see the bias in the statement itself only shows your own bias.

Facts that APPEAL to you have YOUR bias. His statement only shows that he has a liberal bias. That his statement appeals to you shows you have a "liberal bias."

And finally, there is very little "liberal" about the modern American left. If "facts" had a "liberal" bias they'd be libertarian. As liberal means "free" and less authoritarianism. The modern American left seeks to increase government authority over our lives.

Judging by the legislation passed, I'd say that more often the R's take away rights through crap like the PATRIOT Act, domestic spying, DMCA, etc. A more accurate statement might be that government wants to "take away" rights (which usually are done to protect others rights) though, since both parties have to agree to pass the legislation.
 

alphatarget1

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Judging by the legislation passed, I'd say that more often the R's take away rights through crap like the PATRIOT Act, domestic spying, DMCA, etc. A more accurate statement might be that government wants to "take away" rights (which usually are done to protect others rights) though, since both parties have to agree to pass the legislation.

Um, Obama is continuing the same policies more or less.
 

SP33Demon

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I was there and it was a refreshing experience of fun because the fcktard partisan grandstanding was filtered out and I could actually have a normal political discussion with other moderates. Nope, not a liberal but a moderate independent.

The bickering in this thread is a good example of why the rally was held in the first place.
 

Amused

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Judging by the legislation passed, I'd say that more often the R's take away rights through crap like the PATRIOT Act, domestic spying, DMCA, etc. A more accurate statement might be that government wants to "take away" rights (which usually are done to protect others rights) though, since both parties have to agree to pass the legislation.

Um, no. In fact, with the exception of the partriot act (which was bi-partisan for the most part), the religious right/authoritarian right's agenda has been mostly a non-starter. Can't say the same for the authoritarian left's agenda, though.
 

Amused

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You should change your nick to "Amusing"... kinda like street corner preachers raving about the apocalypse are amusing...

How could I possibly compete with the joke that is you?
 

nobodyknows

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I was there and it was a refreshing experience of fun because the fcktard partisan grandstanding was filtered out and I could actually have a normal political discussion with other moderates. Nope, not a liberal but a moderate independent.

The bickering in this thread is a good example of why the rally was held in the first place.

I enjoyed watching the Panda's over discussing politics on such a beautiful Fall day.
 
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