reasons not go to iphone 6s

[Obsy]

I don't *need* 160 GB of storage. But I sure as hell can't do with 16GB. 64 GB might do, but I'm not completely sure if that's true over the whole ife time of my phone.

The only reason why I went straight to 160GB is because it was damn cheap. There's not much reason to think about "hm, should I get the 32, 64 or 128 GB SD card" when the price difference is so low and it means that I just don't have to care about storage any more.

I know you do not literally need 160 GB of storage. I wrote it as a need because you said "I go by my own needs" in post #48.

Personally, the 64GB iPhone 6s+ has more than enough storage for me, and I can obtain that for $650-$450 here depending on whether I stick with my current carrier or go to another one. But that is my preference in phones and my awareness of current offers.

 

[amyklai]

Personally, the 64GB iPhone 6s+ has more than enough storage for me, and I can obtain that for $650-$450 here

iPhone 6s+ 64GB $450-$650 contract free? Where? Because if that's possible, I'm starting an import business...

 

[Obsy]

iPhone 6s+ 64GB $450-$650 contract free? Where? Because if that's possible, I'm starting an import business...

And there are absolutely some good deals for iPhones out there, for example up to $400 in credit towards an iPhone 6s purchase from Best Buy.

It is not contract free, but nor does everyone need it to be.

 

[amyklai]

It is not contract free, but nor does everyone need it to be.

Well, but then we're talking subsidized pricing which you pay for by a via your monthly phone bill. You can't really compare that to buying contract-free.

I can also get an iPhone 6s+ 128GB for "229€" or something similar on contract. But then I've got to sign that contract that will easily make up for the 820€ difference over the next 2 years for the carrier, compared to getting a phone contract from a reseller without a phone...

 

[Obsy]

Well, but then we're talking subsidized pricing which you pay for by a via your monthly phone bill. You can't really compare that to buying contract-free.

I can also get an iPhone 6s+ 128GB for "229€" or something similar on contract. But then I've got to sign that contract that will easily make up for the 820€ difference over the next 2 years for the carrier, compared to getting a phone contract from a reseller without a phone...

Right, it's not contract-free. And that's okay for some people because they may be receiving a large loyalty or work discount on their plan. Or they'd prefer to stick with their carrier anyway because it is the superior choice for their needs (eg coverage, features) even though the rates will be more expensive. And here in the US we have promos where some carriers will pay your termination fee if you want to switch to them. There are a multitude of variables to consider. Some will have a better deal in this situation, some will have a better deal in that.

If you will only consider un-subsidized, non-contract prices, then the best deal for the iPhone 6s/+ that I know off the top of my head is $50 off for an iPhone 6s/+, making the 64GB 6s+ cost $800. The best deal here for a new LG G4 is $380, but that does not include a warranty.

If the 6+ is only worth $380 to you, then great--you save >$400. Now if you require the coverage/features of a more expensive carrier that would have given you a large subsidy, then yeah, your loss. If a less expensive carrier makes no difference to you, then excellent--you saved that much money.

It's all preference. It's all situational.

 

[Mondozei]

It's not just the price of the hardware you're paying for. You can count on a much longer support time-frame than with Android, that's one. Secondly, and crucially, the updates come out much faster too. Sure you can root the phone on Android, but not everyone wants to take that risk and even fewer even know how to. It's easy for us, but we're not representative of the general population.

The only phones which can match this are the nexuses, the Google Play edition phones and a few odd ones out from Motorola, but these are niches.

Secondly, the iPhone 6S destroys the competition with its SoC. The RAM issue is solved. To be frank, it's the first time I've even thought about going iPhone over Android(but I probably won't since I like the freedom of Android and I root my own phones anyway).

The phone is impressive by all counts.

 

[Artdeco]

It matters to me. Although I haven't owned a MacBook or iPhone in a while, I can still appreciate their resale value.



AT&T* phones on Swappa, sorted by depreciation per month
phone model | avg Swappa sale price / launch price | retained value thus far | avg depreciation per month | release date

iPhone 6+ 16GB | $493 / $750 | 65.7% | -2.64% | September 2014
iPhone 6 16GB | $420 / $650 | 64.6% | -2.72% | September 2014
Galaxy Note 4 | $328 / $720 | 45.6% | -4.54% | October 2014
Nexus 6 | $282 / $650 | 43.4% | -5.15% | November 2014
Galaxy S6 32GB | $397 / $650 | 61.1% | -6.49% | April 2015
HTC One M9 | $319 / $650 | 49.1% | -8.49% | April 2015
LG G4 | $360 / $630 | 57.1% | -10.7% | June 2015

So yeah. If you bought your AT&T Android flagship near launch and tried to sell it on Swappa later, its value will have depreciated much faster. The Nexus 6 lost its value 1.95x faster than the 16GB 6+ while the Note 4 lost it 1.72x faster (ps the 64GB 6+ loses its value quicker, but the 64GB 6 has actually retained more). The other phones, although released much later than the iPhones, already retain less of their launch price %-wise.

There are obviously other factors such as latest-gen Android phones getting price cuts and sales sooner, but some people make it seem like it's extraordinarily difficult to get the newest iPhone at less than MSRP.

*I chose AT&T because that's my carrier. Not trying to purposely fudge any data.

Now that's the kind of post I love, not a "My brother's room mate got more than retail for his 3 year old flagship phone." kind of post. I do find Apple stuff goes for less on swappa than elsewhere, I suspect it's because it is an Android centric site. I get better prices on eBay and craigslist for Apple products, although I really like using swappa.

The best values I find are used mint Android stuff on swappa.

 

[isekii]

Now that's the kind of post I love, not a "My brother's room mate got more than retail for his 3 year old flagship phone." kind of post. I do find Apple stuff goes for less on swappa than elsewhere, I suspect it's because it is an Android centric site. I get better prices on eBay and craigslist for Apple products, although I really like using swappa.

The best values I find are used mint Android stuff on swappa.

Depends on condition for the most part.

 

[unknown42]

If the phone has the features you need or want and you don't mind Apple's software design philosophy there's no reason not to get one.

Personally, my next phone will probably run Android; maybe Windows mobile

 

[Artdeco]

I've owned a Nexus 7 and two Nexus 7 2013's. They haven't gotten faster with updates--it's quite the contrary actually.

openwheel owns magic devices, they're free to him and magically get faster every year

 

[catinthefurnace]

openwheel owns magic devices, they're free to him and magically get faster every year

:biggrin:

 

[dawheat]

It matters to me. Although I haven't owned a MacBook or iPhone in a while, I can still appreciate their resale value.



AT&T* phones on Swappa, sorted by depreciation per month
phone model | avg Swappa sale price / launch price | retained value thus far | avg depreciation per month | release date

iPhone 6+ 16GB | $493 / $750 | 65.7% | -2.64% | September 2014
iPhone 6 16GB | $420 / $650 | 64.6% | -2.72% | September 2014
Galaxy Note 4 | $328 / $720 | 45.6% | -4.54% | October 2014
Nexus 6 | $282 / $650 | 43.4% | -5.15% | November 2014
Galaxy S6 32GB | $397 / $650 | 61.1% | -6.49% | April 2015
HTC One M9 | $319 / $650 | 49.1% | -8.49% | April 2015
LG G4 | $360 / $630 | 57.1% | -10.7% | June 2015

So yeah. If you bought your AT&T Android flagship near launch and tried to sell it on Swappa later, its value will have depreciated much faster. The Nexus 6 lost its value 1.95x faster than the 16GB 6+ while the Note 4 lost it 1.72x faster (ps the 64GB 6+ loses its value quicker, but the 64GB 6 has actually retained more). The other phones, although released much later than the iPhones, already retain less of their launch price %-wise.

There are obviously other factors such as latest-gen Android phones getting price cuts and sales sooner, but some people make it seem like it's extraordinarily difficult to get the newest iPhone at less than MSRP.

*I chose AT&T because that's my carrier. Not trying to purposely fudge any data.

Hmm surprised how much the Note 4 has dropped - sold mine on swappa after getting my Note 5 and still got $435 for it.

In support of the Android camp, I do think there are a couple positive factors:

- the great mid-range priced phones you can buy this year (Moto Pure, 6P) means that it's very likely you'll lose relatively little in resale in $ amount since the starting price is $400.
- it's much easier to get amazing bargains just a couple months later. LG has been notorious for this where the G4 was available at under $500 just a couple months after release. Great for the bargain hunter.

 

[walterwlh]

For the price they have flaws that should not be there. I-phone is too proprietary. You have to stick with apple app, jail breaking voids the warranty so is it worth it?

 

[stockwiz]

I just can't get myself to spend the money Apple is asking for their flagship devices... I'll buy the stock and profit at other people's lifestyle preferences. My new nexus 6 which I have now rooted and installed a custom ROM on works great... loving it. I chose it because the Apple 6 Plus only had a gig of ram and was still selling for $500ish used... my new Nexus 6 with 3GB of ram cost $300.

 

[Bunlee]

why not? I'm an android fanboi and yet, I respect the Apple fanatics. These are just two different worlds that does not need justifications. Which is which really depends on one's preferences.

 

[Zahid Iqbal]

Due to high SAR (radiations) trust only Samsung in case of SAR low vaulue.

 

[Artdeco]

Due to high SAR (radiations) trust only Samsung in case of SAR low vaulue.

I understand aluminum foil is an effective shield.

 

[sweenish]

Due to high SAR (radiations) trust only Samsung in case of SAR low vaulue.

They let their workers soak it all up before shipping.

 

[Artdeco]

Due to high SAR (radiations) trust only Samsung in case of SAR low vaulue.

Respectfully, you need to look up how much radiation you get blasted with when you go outside in the sunlight, you know, that giant yellow ball that emits radiation that makes life on this planet possible?

 

[sm625]

Because some people want one? Why do you need to get your panties in a bunch over something that has no effect on you?

It does have an effect on me. All these idiots constantly buying new hardware only to flush perfectly fine existing hardware down the toilet are cannabalizing resources away from fabs resulting in stagnated gpu progress.

 

[slackerinabox]

It does have an effect on me. All these idiots constantly buying new hardware only to flush perfectly fine existing hardware down the toilet are cannabalizing resources away from fabs resulting in stagnated gpu progress.

Got mine a few days ago, fantastic phone. The camera is frankly not as good as my old s6 edge, but the package (including the accessory ecosystem/airplay/carplay/itunes/apple tv) is just top notch.