Reasons why anyone should get married

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GiggleGirl

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Originally posted by: Nik
Originally posted by: GiggleGirl
Originally posted by: Nik
Originally posted by: GiggleGirl
sarcastic post FTW! come on now! theres nothing grammatically wrong with my post really anyways. i re-read before i posted

Dont rub it in! (Removed all the retarded extra exclaimation points.) OCN lives too far away to lay the loving on tonight. Haha.
Oh and [by the way], for those who say marriage is sexless (Sexless is not a word.) ... (An ellipsis is only three periods, not ten thousand.) Hell no, I sex on the regular. (Sentences need a subject and a verb. You're missing a verb.) I sex so much I start to get a blackcent (blackcent is not a word.)! jk jk

You fail.

SARCASTIC POST! and im not partial to apostrophes and capitalization. waste of time when i dont care about the audience. lol
i know all/most of the rules of grammar. i can break them in sarcasm. so FAIL to you bucko

oh and the verb was sex. stop being such a sourpuss!

If you don't hold a competent understanding of the English language and exercise your understanding, you are in no place to point fingers at anyone else.

im in any place i wanna be dollface

ok, now im just screwing with you. stop taking the bait. im not having fun anymore and youre being grouchy! boooo Nik!
 

Madwand1

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Originally posted by: Geekbabe
I'm trying to explain in simple ways how marriage is different, what I can tell you is that after you get married in a few weeks or months, you're going to have your first disagreement... and the thought will dawn on you that you're going to need to reach within yourself to find some new way to compromise and/or resolve conflict because you've gone out and married this person.. getting out of this relationship is going to entail a legal process and will also mean that you're breaking a vow, a promise that you made to be by this person's side no matter what.

When you're living together and you're arguing, the thoughts going thru your mind are more along the lines of "How fast can I get a roomate if I ask him to leave?" I cannot speak for everyone but I find I'm much less tolerant of any situation when there's an easy bailout clause handy.

You should realize that Nik's perspective is not a simple aberration, and that the key is not the expected social stigma or legal fallout, but the attitudes we hold towards ourselves and others, regardless of the external conditions. Real marriage is in the heart, and it's 100% possible to have a real marriage without any of the normal trappings, just as it's possible to have a completely hollow facade of a marriage with all of the trappings and legal bindings, for life, but none of the feeling remaining. The idea that having a ritual and a socio-legal contract is somehow stronger than the hearts and minds of people is an old myth used to coerce people into behaving better than they otherwise might which has become increasingly hollow over time.
 

seemingly random

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I think marriage for some is like most locks. Most locks exist just to keep honest people honest.

And, of course, the state desperately wants the legal bindings of marriage so it can go after somebody for child support if the need arises.
 

GiggleGirl

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Originally posted by: seemingly random
I think marriage for some is like most locks. Most locks exist just to keep honest people honest.

And, of course, the state desperately wants the legal bindings of marriage so it can go after somebody for child support if the need arises.

child support exists without marriage. ive never been married and i receive child support from my daughter's father. child support is a given regardless of marriage.
 

Nik

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Originally posted by: GiggleGirl
Originally posted by: seemingly random
I think marriage for some is like most locks. Most locks exist just to keep honest people honest.

And, of course, the state desperately wants the legal bindings of marriage so it can go after somebody for child support if the need arises.

child support exists without marriage. ive never been married and i receive child support from my daughter's father. child support is a given regardless of marriage.

Agreed, but he was making a more profound statement, which is true. The state is involved; it has a vested interest in the "business" of marriage.
 

seemingly random

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Originally posted by: GiggleGirl
Originally posted by: seemingly random
I think marriage for some is like most locks. Most locks exist just to keep honest people honest.

And, of course, the state desperately wants the legal bindings of marriage so it can go after somebody for child support if the need arises.

child support exists without marriage. ive never been married and i receive child support from my daughter's father. child support is a given regardless of marriage.
Good for you. You're lucky. Certainly you've heard stories about people skipping out on child support.

It's as much a given (or truth) as "until death do us part" is.
 

GiggleGirl

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Originally posted by: seemingly random
Originally posted by: GiggleGirl
Originally posted by: seemingly random
I think marriage for some is like most locks. Most locks exist just to keep honest people honest.

And, of course, the state desperately wants the legal bindings of marriage so it can go after somebody for child support if the need arises.

child support exists without marriage. ive never been married and i receive child support from my daughter's father. child support is a given regardless of marriage.
Good for you. You're lucky. Certainly you've heard stories about people skipping out on child support.

It's as much a given (or truth) as "until death do us part" is.

people can skip out on it having been unmarried or married. you will just continue to be penalized. i only receive child support because its taken directly out of his paycheck. i often see those who dont pay, go to jail
 

Nik

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Originally posted by: GiggleGirl
Originally posted by: seemingly random
Originally posted by: GiggleGirl
Originally posted by: seemingly random
I think marriage for some is like most locks. Most locks exist just to keep honest people honest.

And, of course, the state desperately wants the legal bindings of marriage so it can go after somebody for child support if the need arises.

child support exists without marriage. ive never been married and i receive child support from my daughter's father. child support is a given regardless of marriage.
Good for you. You're lucky. Certainly you've heard stories about people skipping out on child support.

It's as much a given (or truth) as "until death do us part" is.

people can skip out on it having been unmarried or married. you will just continue to be penalized. i only receive child support because its taken directly out of his paycheck. i often see those who dont pay, go to jail

I never got one cent of child support from my father. He never went to jail, just refused to pay.

What does this have to do with marriage?
 

GiggleGirl

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Originally posted by: Nik
Originally posted by: GiggleGirl
Originally posted by: seemingly random
Originally posted by: GiggleGirl
Originally posted by: seemingly random
I think marriage for some is like most locks. Most locks exist just to keep honest people honest.

And, of course, the state desperately wants the legal bindings of marriage so it can go after somebody for child support if the need arises.

child support exists without marriage. ive never been married and i receive child support from my daughter's father. child support is a given regardless of marriage.
Good for you. You're lucky. Certainly you've heard stories about people skipping out on child support.

It's as much a given (or truth) as "until death do us part" is.

people can skip out on it having been unmarried or married. you will just continue to be penalized. i only receive child support because its taken directly out of his paycheck. i often see those who dont pay, go to jail

I never got one cent of child support from my father. He never went to jail, just refused to pay.

What does this have to do with marriage?

(did your dad ever go to court with your mom.... it is an arrestable offense. but i dunno man!!! that sucks)

and
lol i have no idea.
 

seemingly random

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Originally posted by: Nik
Originally posted by: GiggleGirl
Originally posted by: seemingly random
Originally posted by: GiggleGirl
Originally posted by: seemingly random
I think marriage for some is like most locks. Most locks exist just to keep honest people honest.

And, of course, the state desperately wants the legal bindings of marriage so it can go after somebody for child support if the need arises.

child support exists without marriage. ive never been married and i receive child support from my daughter's father. child support is a given regardless of marriage.
Good for you. You're lucky. Certainly you've heard stories about people skipping out on child support.

It's as much a given (or truth) as "until death do us part" is.

people can skip out on it having been unmarried or married. you will just continue to be penalized. i only receive child support because its taken directly out of his paycheck. i often see those who dont pay, go to jail

I never got one cent of child support from my father. He never went to jail, just refused to pay.

What does this have to do with marriage?
I think GiggleGirl is suggesting that marriage has no bearing on the whole child support issue.

And sorry to hear about your dad. Of course, the money wasn't the main issue. It was that one of the few people in the world you should have been able to count on fizzled. This also doesn't have anything to do with marriage.
 

GiggleGirl

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Originally posted by: seemingly random
Originally posted by: Nik
Originally posted by: GiggleGirl
Originally posted by: seemingly random
Originally posted by: GiggleGirl
Originally posted by: seemingly random
I think marriage for some is like most locks. Most locks exist just to keep honest people honest.

And, of course, the state desperately wants the legal bindings of marriage so it can go after somebody for child support if the need arises.

child support exists without marriage. ive never been married and i receive child support from my daughter's father. child support is a given regardless of marriage.
Good for you. You're lucky. Certainly you've heard stories about people skipping out on child support.

It's as much a given (or truth) as "until death do us part" is.

people can skip out on it having been unmarried or married. you will just continue to be penalized. i only receive child support because its taken directly out of his paycheck. i often see those who dont pay, go to jail

I never got one cent of child support from my father. He never went to jail, just refused to pay.

What does this have to do with marriage?
I think GiggleGirl is suggesting that marriage has no bearing on the whole child support issue.

And sorry to hear about your dad. Of course, the money wasn't the main issue. It was that one of the few people in the world you should have been able to count on fizzled. This also doesn't have anything to do with marriage.

im not saying anything in particular. i guess i was under the impression your marital status does not matter when it comes to paying child support. you have to pay it regardless
 

Nik

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Originally posted by: GiggleGirl
im not saying anything in particular. i guess i was under the impression your marital status does not matter when it comes to paying child support. you have to pay it regardless

You don't have to pay child support if you're still married to the child's mother.
 

seemingly random

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Originally posted by: GiggleGirl
Originally posted by: seemingly random
Originally posted by: Nik
Originally posted by: GiggleGirl
Originally posted by: seemingly random
Originally posted by: GiggleGirl
Originally posted by: seemingly random
I think marriage for some is like most locks. Most locks exist just to keep honest people honest.

And, of course, the state desperately wants the legal bindings of marriage so it can go after somebody for child support if the need arises.

child support exists without marriage. ive never been married and i receive child support from my daughter's father. child support is a given regardless of marriage.
Good for you. You're lucky. Certainly you've heard stories about people skipping out on child support.

It's as much a given (or truth) as "until death do us part" is.

people can skip out on it having been unmarried or married. you will just continue to be penalized. i only receive child support because its taken directly out of his paycheck. i often see those who dont pay, go to jail

I never got one cent of child support from my father. He never went to jail, just refused to pay.

What does this have to do with marriage?
I think GiggleGirl is suggesting that marriage has no bearing on the whole child support issue.

And sorry to hear about your dad. Of course, the money wasn't the main issue. It was that one of the few people in the world you should have been able to count on fizzled. This also doesn't have anything to do with marriage.

im not saying anything in particular. i guess i was under the impression your marital status does not matter when it comes to paying child support. you have to pay it regardless
It could be. I have no personal experience with it. From what I understand from others though is that you enter the state gauntlet which includes offspring examination when you file for divorce. Also, the state takes a cut of the payments.
 

alkemyst

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child support unlike alimony has pretty set levels based on income. Most that pay it swear they were not paying as much when they had the child with them, also it sets the stage for whoever the custodian is to abuse that money.

More often then not you pay child support then still get sent 'bills' for shoes, field trips, etc.
 

GiggleGirl

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Originally posted by: Nik
Originally posted by: GiggleGirl
im not saying anything in particular. i guess i was under the impression your marital status does not matter when it comes to paying child support. you have to pay it regardless

You don't have to pay child support if you're still married to the child's mother.

no shit shirlock. you knew what i meant. divorced or never married
 

GiggleGirl

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Originally posted by: alkemyst
child support unlike alimony has pretty set levels based on income. Most that pay it swear they were not paying as much when they had the child with them, also it sets the stage for whoever the custodian is to abuse that money.

More often then not you pay child support then still get sent 'bills' for shoes, field trips, etc.

i NEVER do anything of the sort. the child support i receive pays for the things we need to live. rent, food, her clothing and medicine etc. ive even paid the medical bills he was supposed to pay... im not a c*nt but its unfortunate that many people DO do this
 

alkemyst

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Originally posted by: GiggleGirl
Originally posted by: Nik
Originally posted by: GiggleGirl
im not saying anything in particular. i guess i was under the impression your marital status does not matter when it comes to paying child support. you have to pay it regardless

You don't have to pay child support if you're still married to the child's mother.

no shit shirlock. you knew what i meant. divorced or never married

did you two do the funkee munkee one night or something?
 

GiggleGirl

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Originally posted by: alkemyst
Originally posted by: GiggleGirl
Originally posted by: Nik
Originally posted by: GiggleGirl
im not saying anything in particular. i guess i was under the impression your marital status does not matter when it comes to paying child support. you have to pay it regardless

You don't have to pay child support if you're still married to the child's mother.

no shit shirlock. you knew what i meant. divorced or never married

did you two do the funkee munkee one night or something?

never met the guy in my life. i have a boyfriend OCNewbie! yayyy
 

alkemyst

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Originally posted by: zerocool84
This thread went from a couple pages to 20+ just because of 3 people

<fail>it's only 4 for me.</fail>

I think like bipartisan politics, marriages have run their course.

IMHO anything you had prior to a marriage is yours. Anything you make in a marriage with your name on it is yours, anything you both put your names on is both of yours.

When you exit that arrangement you split it just like that. If one came from nothing, they go back to nothing.

I think alimony should be stricken from the recordbooks UNLESS the person wants to pay it out.

 

alkemyst

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Originally posted by: GiggleGirlive even paid the medical bills he was supposed to pay... im not a c*nt but its unfortunate that many people DO do this

that's what I don't get, AFAIK the other party sends in money that covers any child support costs...
 

GiggleGirl

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Originally posted by: alkemyst
Originally posted by: GiggleGirlive even paid the medical bills he was supposed to pay... im not a c*nt but its unfortunate that many people DO do this

that's what I don't get, AFAIK the other party sends in money that covers any child support costs...

they were bills from HIS insurance that hes responsible for... they are his, in his name but I paid for them. i have no idea wtf AFAIK means. lol
 

shortylickens

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A quote from NoMarriage.com:
Quite simply, single men are happy and free and only an ever dwindling number love the idea of being married, whilst single women - certainly those over the age of 28 - complain that men aren't willing to commit, that their boyfriends are so annoying because they haven't proposed yet, and how much they despise their jobs. This doesn't quite back up the theory that marriage is so fantastically wonderful for men and a burden for women. People - both men and women - make decisions that are beneficial to them; the fact that men retreat from marriage whilst women are so enthusiastic about it makes it obvious who it is really benefiting.
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I am not quite this angry yet, but I'm sure one failed marriage would get me there.
 

Fenixgoon

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Originally posted by: GiggleGirl
Originally posted by: alkemyst
Originally posted by: GiggleGirlive even paid the medical bills he was supposed to pay... im not a c*nt but its unfortunate that many people DO do this

that's what I don't get, AFAIK the other party sends in money that covers any child support costs...

they were bills from HIS insurance that hes responsible for... they are his, in his name but I paid for them. i have no idea wtf AFAIK means. lol

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