reasons why real man don't drive electric cars

rc5

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1. Electric cars don't have motor sound
2. Electric cars can't afford air conditioner
3. Electric cars suck on acceleration.
4. Electric cars need 1000 pound batteries and can only run 60-100 kilometer per charge.
5. It takes 12 hours to pump your electric car.
6. You need change all batteries in 3 years and they cost $5000.
7. Hardly any place outside your home can you pump your electric car.
8.
 

Rallispec

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<< 6. You need change all batteries in 3 years and they cost $5000. >>


WTF! that sucks...


and also... electic cars are weak. I still wouldnt mind having one though-- just for comuting back and forth to work and stuff-- i figure i spend 1000 dollars on gas a year.. if i could save that much, it would be nice..
 
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i remember that segway cartoon, was funny as hell.
first showed the guy standing on it
next said we'll need more power now
and a top for when it rains
and an extra axle for all that extra weight
went on and it looked like a car at the end
 

HappyFace

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Wouldn't the cost of batteries outweigh what an average person spends on gas per year? Also, if you're far from home and run out of electricity - you're screwed! Not worth it if you ask me.
 

mithrandir2001

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Alien Luckster.
Surfer Dude HappyFace.

How come I never change my avatar?

Actually pure electric cars prolly DO suck. The hybirds with the small internal-combustion engines are much more practical.
 

SsZERO

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Actually he is correct on every claim, aside from the acceleration. Electric cars have excellent acceleration capability, but ONLY when the batteries have a good charge in them. The second you drive an electric car and reduce the charge in the batteries, the slower you go.

Electric cars do suck and they are still too impractical to replace IC powered cars.

-= SsZERO =-



<< too bad your'e wrong about nearly all of those... >>

 

SsZERO

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You'd be spending $5000 to replace batteries every 2-3 years...quite a bit more than gas, and since you need to spend it all at once, it's even more inconvinient. Also, just like RC electric car batteries, you can only cycle (discharge/recharge) the batteries a certain amount of times before they no longer retain a charge, and you can cycle the batteries only 3 or so times per day.

-= SsZERO =-



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<< 6. You need change all batteries in 3 years and they cost $5000. >>


WTF! that sucks...


and also... electic cars are weak. I still wouldnt mind having one though-- just for comuting back and forth to work and stuff-- i figure i spend 1000 dollars on gas a year.. if i could save that much, it would be nice..
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Jzero

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<< You'd be spending $5000 to replace batteries every 2-3 years...quite a bit more than gas, and since you need to spend it all at once, it's even more inconvinient. Also, just like RC electric car batteries, you can only cycle (discharge/recharge) the batteries a certain amount of times before they no longer retain a charge, and you can cycle the batteries only 3 or so times per day.

-= SsZERO =-



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<< 6. You need change all batteries in 3 years and they cost $5000. >>


WTF! that sucks...


and also... electic cars are weak. I still wouldnt mind having one though-- just for comuting back and forth to work and stuff-- i figure i spend 1000 dollars on gas a year.. if i could save that much, it would be nice..
>>

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Are we talking about the Barbie Ferrari, or legit HEVs like the Insight and Prius?
 

SsZERO

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A car that runs exclusively off batteries is FAAAAAAAAAR from HEV.

The Insight and Prius are not electric, they are gas-electric hybrids. They are not part of this discussion.

-= SsZERO =-



<< Are we talking about the Barbie Ferrari, or legit HEVs like the Insight and Prius? >>

 

bubbadu

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hyrbid cars are the way to go, the use both an gas engine and batteries. The Toyota Prius gets 55 miles to the gallon and the acceleration and "normal" car ride is definitly there. My dad was the first person authorized to sell them in the US and i got to drive the japensese verison a couple of years ago and IMO they are great if you are at all consured about the enivorment...

-Bubbadu
 

SsZERO

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I'm going to stick with my Trans AM. Those hybrid cars are just hideous-looking and slow...if it can't run the 1/4 mile in 13s or less, it's slow. That crap the tree-huggers would have you believe about global warming and excessive pollutants in the air is a load of BS. The ones that are not total nutcases are there because they know how much $$$ can be made in the "non profit" business.

Don't get me wrong, I think it'd be cool to have some alternative power sources for our cars...but why not put a little research into creating a replacement for gasoline that can easily be fabricated in mass quantities from readily available materials. A variation of ethyl alcohol (what race cars use), perhaps?

-= SsZERO =-
 

bubbadu

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yeah it is definitly in its early stages but they are developing it and will be making SUV's and trucks with the same technology.. it isnt gonna replace the gas engine but i think everythings leaning in that direction..

-Bubbadu
 

element

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Methanol (what race cars use) is expensive. $5.00 a gallon or there abouts. How about hydrogen? Course we already have busses running on that. Then there's compressed natural gas too. Course those fuels aren't exactly cheap either. I don't know which is the cheapest or most viable for mass production, but suffice it to say we have options should the need arise.
 

SsZERO

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Methanol is not the fuel, the cars run on ethyl alcohol. Methanol is added to the alcohol to denature it, in other words, make it harmful or fatal for human consumption. It's probably more expensive because it is produced in smaller quantities than gasoline, and it also has less heat energy per volume than gasoline...so you need more of it to make the same power as you do with gas. Same goes for hydrogen. But the point is, I think it'd be best to make a 'synthetic' replacement for gasoline that could be used in existing cars with little or no modifications to the fuel delivery systems.

-= SsZERO =-



<< Methanol (what race cars use) is expensive. $5.00 a gallon or there abouts. How about hydrogen? Course we already have busses running on that. Then there's compressed natural gas too. Course those fuels aren't exactly cheap either. I don't know which is the cheapest or most viable for mass production, but suffice it to say we have options should the need arise. >>

 

thomsbrain

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<< 6. You need change all batteries in 3 years and they cost $5000. >>



Yeah, but it's worth noting that the motor will never need much in the way of maintenence. Think of all the money you'll spend on the motor of your car over it's life, and that's not so bad. Still worse, but not as bad as it sounds.
 

thomsbrain

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<< I'm going to stick with my Trans AM. Those hybrid cars are just hideous-looking and slow...if it can't run the 1/4 mile in 13s or less, it's slow. That crap the tree-huggers would have you believe about global warming and excessive pollutants in the air is a load of BS. The ones that are not total nutcases are there because they know how much $$$ can be made in the "non profit" business. >>



[edit -- donning flame suit.]

Please tell me you're joking. It would be a pity if you were that ignorant. Do you think it's in the scientist's best interest to report on global warming? Wouldn't they make way more money working for a car company? Obviously there is a problem big enough that they feel the need to take a pay cut to investigate it.
 

SsZERO

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Even if the car requires less maintenance, $5K is still a pretty hefty price to make up...maintenance on new cars usually involves changing the fluids at proper intervals and making sure everything that moves is properly lubed. 4 oil changes and 2 lubes per year would only run about $150.

That's not to mention that battery powered cars are substantially more INefficient than any IC engine...it just doesn't float. If it did, we'd have seen more electric cars by now.

-= SsZERO =-



<< Yeah, but it's worth noting that the motor will never need much in the way of maintenence. Think of all the money you'll spend on the motor of your car over it's life, and that's not so bad. Still worse, but not as bad as it sounds. >>

 

thomsbrain

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<< Even if the car requires less maintenance, $5K is still a pretty hefty price to make up...maintenance on new cars usually involves changing the fluids at proper intervals and making sure everything that moves is properly lubed. 4 oil changes and 2 lubes per year would only run about $150.

That's not to mention that battery powered cars are substantially more INefficient than any IC engine...it just doesn't float. If it did, we'd have seen more electric cars by now.

-= SsZERO =-



<< Yeah, but it's worth noting that the motor will never need much in the way of maintenence. Think of all the money you'll spend on the motor of your car over it's life, and that's not so bad. Still worse, but not as bad as it sounds. >>

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Good points. And something most people don't think of: where does that electricity come from? Power plants! And power plants pollute...
 

SsZERO

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Haha, how's that for irony. The ignorant calling ME ignorant. See, there's a problem with your statement...global warming is non-existant...I mean, if it is, then why is the ice at the poles increasing in mass rather than decreasing (as "predicted" by some). Do a little homework, buddy...rather than just agreeing with whatever seems to be the consensus on an issue. You'd be surprised how much legitimate scientific research is manipulated, distorted and misrepresented in order to further a person's or group's own interests. I guess you think there's a big "hole" in the ozone layer and in another 20 years we won't be able to go outside without putting on radiation suits...

"I saw it on TV; it MUST be true!"

-= SsZERO =-



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<< I'm going to stick with my Trans AM. Those hybrid cars are just hideous-looking and slow...if it can't run the 1/4 mile in 13s or less, it's slow. That crap the tree-huggers would have you believe about global warming and excessive pollutants in the air is a load of BS. The ones that are not total nutcases are there because they know how much $$$ can be made in the "non profit" business. >>



[edit -- donning flame suit.]

Please tell me you're joking. It would be a pity if you were that ignorant. Do you think it's in the scientist's best interest to report on global warming? Wouldn't they make way more money working for a car company? Obviously there is a problem big enough that they feel the need to take a pay cut to investigate it.
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CocaCola5

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For the price of a Prius you can get a diesel powered VW that will go 400K mi and tow a boat up a hill if required.
 

BruinEd03

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<< 1. Electric cars don't have motor sound
2. Electric cars can't afford air conditioner
3. Electric cars suck on acceleration.
4. Electric cars need 1000 pound batteries and can only run 60-100 kilometer per charge.
5. It takes 12 hours to pump your electric car.
6. You need change all batteries in 3 years and they cost $5000.
7. Hardly any place outside your home can you pump your electric car.
8.
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Electronic cards are cool gadgets that happen to be big...all ur reasons are overridden. Sorry...

-Ed
 
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