Recieved a camera as a present...but man it is bad.

riahc3

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Recently, I asked here for a point and shoot because I wanted something simple and basic for my needs. I wanted quality for a good price.

As a present, I got one the other day. Even though Im thankful for it, I took some pictures and wow....they are pretty bad.

Details are lost at close range. You see noise and again detail lost as soon as you zoom in on a picture that doesnt have optical zoom. It had NOTHING to do with my previous camera which was also a simple point and shoot but was WAY better, with better megapixels.

There are two sides to this: First, Im grateful and thankful and it has a sentimental value that I got this camera as I wanted another point and shoot that is compact so I could take pictures when gong out. On another side, you look at the pictures and they can easyly pass off as being from a mobile phone.

So, in your opinion, as a photographer and a friend, what would you say? Saying "This camera doesnt live up to the qualty I want" is out of the question so please, do not bring that up.

Thank you
 

riahc3

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Is it bad for the price or just a cheap and bad camera?
The price is OK. Standard..

Its a bad camera. At its price range, after taking sample shots and now reading reviews, I think there are a couple of more out there a bit better.
 

CuriousMike

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Could you possibly tell us the make and model of the camera?
Could you post an example shot that you think is poor?
 

sandorski

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I have a niece that takes the most awesome photos with her Phones camera(Samsung I think). I would give an example of one that I have used as my Login screen, but can't seem to find where I saved it.
 

riahc3

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Could you possibly tell us the make and model of the camera?
Could you post an example shot that you think is poor?
I dont want to hurt anyone's feelings so just in case the people that bought me the camera, want to buy me something else, and search for accessories for this camera and find this thread......you know.

The chance of them find this thread is slim but just in case.

I will try to get a shot of a picture I took with my previous camera and then take a shot with this new one and that way I/we can compare.

Its the only fair way.

I have a niece that takes the most awesome photos with her Phones camera(Samsung I think). I would give an example of one that I have used as my Login screen, but can't seem to find where I saved it.
No no, pictures at the end of the day, are only as good as the person behind the camera, no doubt, you are correct, but obviously the quality of the sensor/lens is noticeable when you have a 20MP camera and you try to zoom in.
 

blastingcap

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I dont want to hurt anyone's feelings so just in case the people that bought me the camera, want to buy me something else, and search for accessories for this camera and find this thread......you know.

The chance of them find this thread is slim but just in case.

I will try to get a shot of a picture I took with my previous camera and then take a shot with this new one and that way I/we can compare.

Its the only fair way.


No no, pictures at the end of the day, are only as good as the person behind the camera, no doubt, you are correct, but obviously the quality of the sensor/lens is noticeable when you have a 20MP camera and you try to zoom in.

Dude just post the model number backwards.
 

tdawg

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Just curious...are you using the digital zoom versus only optical zoom?
 

Belegost

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Admittedly that model is a 1/2.3" sensor which is somewhat limiting, but looking at info around, it seems to be a decent model for an small p&s. The 4.2-43mm (24-240mm eq.) f/3-6.9 is not exactly a fast lens, so it won't be great in low light, but in decent lighting the optical zoom should allow a pretty good range.

I found some sample images from a review. Pixel peeping on those I see two things - In lower light even at low ISO there is some graininess, raising the ISO above 400 also comes with a very noticeable softness on edges. In good light the quality is quite nice.

Overall an inexpensive p&s is not going to be the best in low light, that needs a fast lens and larger sensor, and those cost in terms of price and size.
 

CuriousMike

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"Can I have the receipt because I think there is an issue with the camera in the dark, and I want it to the store to have them verify. If they need to replace it, I'll let you know."
 

riahc3

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Just curious...are you using the digital zoom versus only optical zoom?
Optical. There are people that actually use digital?

Admittedly that model is a 1/2.3" sensor which is somewhat limiting, but looking at info around, it seems to be a decent model for an small p&s. The 4.2-43mm (24-240mm eq.) f/3-6.9 is not exactly a fast lens, so it won't be great in low light, but in decent lighting the optical zoom should allow a pretty good range.

I found some sample images from a review. Pixel peeping on those I see two things - In lower light even at low ISO there is some graininess, raising the ISO above 400 also comes with a very noticeable softness on edges. In good light the quality is quite nice.

Overall an inexpensive p&s is not going to be the best in low light, that needs a fast lens and larger sensor, and those cost in terms of price and size.
Its funny because the older camera I had just proves the megapixel myth: It was a OLYMPUS u740.
 

tdawg

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Optical. There are people that actually use digital?

Just making sure. I'm sure many P&S users do use digital zoom because they don't know any better.

If you're not willing to discuss issues you have with the gift to the person who gave it to you, just tuck it in a drawer and get something you will use. Is the giver really going to be monitoring what camera took whatever images they see that you share/post?
 

riahc3

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Just making sure. I'm sure many P&S users do use digital zoom because they don't know any better.

If you're not willing to discuss issues you have with the gift to the person who gave it to you, just tuck it in a drawer and get something you will use. Is the giver really going to be monitoring what camera took whatever images they see that you share/post?

It was a group present and I am with that group always.

Kind of noticable if I pull out a camera that is different than the one that they gifted me, don't you think?

Ill problably stick with it even if Im not happy.

Worst part is, my girlfriend has asked me for a P&S too but Im not getting her this one...
 

tdawg

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It was a group present and I am with that group always.

Kind of noticable if I pull out a camera that is different than the one that they gifted me, don't you think?

Ill problably stick with it even if Im not happy.

Worst part is, my girlfriend has asked me for a P&S too but Im not getting her this one...
Well, it sounds like you're stuck taking bad pictures for the rest of your days unless you can figure a way to tell your friends the camera isn't good and they should let you replace it with something that is. If you are all true friends, the friendship should be able to survive this little issue.
 

fralexandr

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accidentally drop it in a few toilets because you have butterfingers?
my mom dropped her oldish olympus vr330 point and shoot in a toilet >.<
 

riahc3

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Sadly, even if its bad, it has a sentimental value from who I got it from Thats good enough for me.

Plus. Ive only taken test shots. I have yet to do a one on one comparision with the old camera.
 

Raduque

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Kind of noticable if I pull out a camera that is different than the one that they gifted me, don't you think?

"I didn't want to mess it up because so-and-so gave it to me, and it means a lot to me."
 

Imp

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That's a good camera for the size and price. I have the slightly better model from a few years ago with the touch screen.

I had very low expectations going in. It was my first camera in years. Didn't know how great manual was yet. Compared to my full-frame or even bridge, yes, it's bad, but it didn't set me back over a grand.

I still have mine. Barely use it, mainly meant for travel back-up and when I want something really compact.
 

Syborg1211

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As long as the camera is better than what you had before, what's to complain about? It's a free camera. Use it for as long as you want. I don't think anyone who buys someone something like a camera and watches that person get into the hobby would be offended if they upgraded after a little while.
 
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