Recommend e-mail software?

Dee67

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I've never been great about about keeping current with software and have been using Eudora since as far back as I can remember. Have been using Eudora 5.0 for years. It still works but I wonder what I'm missing in security/spam filtering.

What's out there now - what do you use/like?

Thank you!!
 

lxskllr

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Thunderbird. I've used it since the beginning. Libre software, and cross platform.
 

HOSED

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I will make it unanimous but does anyone have any hints when running thunderbird for linux AFA spam settings and anti virus in security? Do you guys change a lot of setting in general? I did change Account- Server - leave messages on server - until I delete them.Also view- layout - message pane - I uncheck it.
 
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lxskllr

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I will make it unanimous but does anyone have any hints when running thunderbird for linux AFA spam settings and anti virus in security? Do you guys change a lot of setting in general? I did change Account- Server - leave messages on server - until I delete them.

av is turned off cause I'm on Debian. Spam is set to move to junk when marked as spam, but I don't get much from my primary accounts. Secondary accounts get hammered, but that's their position in life :^D

I made little tweaks in the settings, but nothing I consider essential to the best of my memory. I think the best thing you can do is just run it, and if there's something you think could be better, see if you can make it happen.
 

Charlie98

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OK, I'll be the voice of dissent... I'm working on getting Postbox Express set up to replace Outlook, or you could look at the regular version of Postbox. As I understand it, it's just an offshoot of Thunderbird, but, Express anyway, seems a little cleaner and less cluttered.
 

ringtail

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Thunderbird,

with the add-ons
Adblock Plus, CompactHeader and Lightning.

I've used it since (was it incorporated into Netscape 1995? I don't remember) then it morphed into Neoplanet, then into Mozilla where the integrated browser and email client were split into the separate Thunderbird and Firefox.

As an e-mail client it's excellent. One reason is, it isn't Bill Gates. Frankly, if you're a corporate person then dance with the devil and use MS Outlook instead. The Outlook environment has much higher capability (example: if you add the free MS Business Contact Manager then you can track projects, tasks within projects, etc.) But then, Thunderbird is free, while, alas!, Outlook funds Skynet. If you're a corporate person use Outlook. If you have independent livelihood (moi) then Thunderbird is great, (but vastly less capable than Outlook).

I've used both Outlook and Thunderbird a LOT, and I just LIKE Thunderbird. (I still use Outlook for contacts, because it's way better than Thunderbird re: Contacts)
 

silicon

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another vote for Thunderbird. because its not some MS bloatware it does the job very well and its free.
 

ninaholic37

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I've used it since (was it incorporated into Netscape 1995? I don't remember) then it morphed into Neoplanet, then into Mozilla where the integrated browser and email client were split into the separate Thunderbird and Firefox.
Interesting. I didn't know this. I thought if you wanted a Netscape-like browser by Mozilla with Mail integrated, you would get SeaMonkey. From what I understand now, Firefox + Thunderbird achieves about the same thing, I think? That's cool.
 

smakme7757

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another vote for Thunderbird. because its not some MS bloatware it does the job very well and its free.
Thunderbird and Outlook are really different types of products.

Outlook works very well in enterprise. Thunderbird wasn't really designed for that type of use case.
 

Dee67

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Well.. you guys couldn't have made it any easier. I appreciate that. Thank you.
 

jkauff

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I pay for Outlook, mostly because I'm used to it, but I also use rules a lot for routing new mail into the folders I've set up. I like the Contacts functionality, too. I also use it to keep all my receipts and software registrations, and the search in the latest version is very, very fast.

I haven't tried Thunderbird for a few years, but back then it was much less capable than Outlook. It must have improved if so many people are recommending it.

That said, I doubt I'll ever buy another Outlook upgrade. The current version is fine for my needs, and I imagine one of these days I'll abandon offline mail for web-based, since that seems to be where everyone's going. I just don't like the idea of all my personal emails being out there in the cloud where they're accessible by Google, Microsoft, Yahoo, etc., not to mention hackers.
 

TheGardener

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I just don't like the idea of all my personal emails being out there in the cloud where they're accessible by Google, Microsoft, Yahoo, etc., not to mention hackers.

I'm probably the least technical person reading this thread. But I thought that the major webmail sites keep your email forever. Even if you delete them. So aren't they still in the cloud somewhere?

Non-rhetorical question. If I were to use Thunderbird, would I have to retain passwords on Firefox? Currently all my web passwords are not remembered.
 

FeuerFrei

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Been using Thunderbird ever since I upgraded to Windows 7 back last April.
Only problem I have is that Avast! doesn't play nice. It issues its own certificate for encrypted mail connections that's not signed by a recognized issuer, so Thunderbird will ask me every week or so if I want to accept this unsigned certificate.
 

Carson Dyle

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Thunderbird here, too. I'm also using the Adblock Plus and CompactHeader add-ons that were mentioned above.

Thunderbird question for all of the experts:

One thing that annoys the hell out of me is that Thunderbird doesn't open up subfolders in which you receive a new message. Before using Thunderbird I used Outlook Express and it would expand folders down to the subfolder where the message came in. With Thunderbird I have to dig down manually. Is there an add-on to address this?
 

ninaholic37

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I'm probably the least technical person reading this thread. But I thought that the major webmail sites keep your email forever. Even if you delete them. So aren't they still in the cloud somewhere?
Not sure about other webmails, but on my hotmail account, I didn't log on for about 6 months in 2010 and they deleted the account because of this. The email name was "available" again, so I just re-created an account with the same name. Then in 2012 someone complained that I didn't answer their email in 2 years, yeah... that's because hotmail deleted my account and all my messages! lol. I noticed this again later with a few other hotmail accounts I created as well, if you don't log in for about 6 months... they remove it and all the emails sent to it. What is still kept in the cloud after they delete the account and make the name available again, I'm not sure, I'm guessing nothing (as they probably delete inactive accounts to save space) but you never know.
 

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I'm probably the least technical person reading this thread. But I thought that the major webmail sites keep your email forever. Even if you delete them. So aren't they still in the cloud somewhere?

Non-rhetorical question. If I were to use Thunderbird, would I have to retain passwords on Firefox? Currently all my web passwords are not remembered.
Thanks Lxskllr !
good question Verizon's policy states: All Email will be retained indefinitely as long as your Email account remains active and you do not exceed the maximum storage quota for your mailbox. For you other query, Thunderbird requires passwords to send and receive email. you will be prompted when you setup your account for major ISP's I believe. You can configure Thunderbird not to remember it if you wish. Who is your email provider now?
 
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Mushkins

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Not sure about other webmails, but on my hotmail account, I didn't log on for about 6 months in 2010 and they deleted the account because of this. The email name was "available" again, so I just re-created an account with the same name. Then in 2012 someone complained that I didn't answer their email in 2 years, yeah... that's because hotmail deleted my account and all my messages! lol. I noticed this again later with a few other hotmail accounts I created as well, if you don't log in for about 6 months... they remove it and all the emails sent to it. What is still kept in the cloud after they delete the account and make the name available again, I'm not sure, I'm guessing nothing (as they probably delete inactive accounts to save space) but you never know.
Yes, your account is disabled, but those emails are retained for a certain amount of time for legal reasons, and if these companies are like any other major companies, they're not going out of their way to purge seven year old backups, so odds are your emails are still sitting on a tape backup locked in a closet somewhere. The bottom line is unless you're running your own exchange server out of your house, your emails are still out there and there's nothing you can do about it.
 

TheGardener

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You can configure Thunderbird not to remember it if you wish. Who is your email provider now?

I spend a majority of my computing time in hotspots, so not leaving my passwords on my browser is a security measure for an unsecured habit. As for the email providers, I use hotmail, gmail and yahoo. Different accounts for different reasons.

The more I think about it, there is little to be gained for me by using Thunderbird.
 

lxskllr

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I spend a majority of my computing time in hotspots, so not leaving my passwords on my browser is a security measure for an unsecured habit. As for the email providers, I use hotmail, gmail and yahoo. Different accounts for different reasons.

The more I think about it, there is little to be gained for me by using Thunderbird.

Unsecured mobile would be one of the better reasons for using a mail client. That tells me you travel a lot, and can't guarantee connectivity. With a mail client, you can read old mail without being connected. That comes with the downside(compared to webmail) of someone snatching your machine, and getting your old email, but physical security is the easiest to handle on multiple levels.
 
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