Recommendations for a Low-EMF Laptop

jazzkat10

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Hi there,


It is time to buy a new laptop. I need to buy a low-emf laptop as I am experiencing electro-hypersensitivity symptoms. I have no clue to what makes up a low-emf laptop. Can you fill me in to what that consist of? For instance, Im not understanding the intel core 3 or 5 or 7. It is that the higher the number, the better performance?

Currently, I have a HP Pavillion dv6-6c54nr. Its been good to me for several years, descent sturdy laptop, good performace, best bang for my buck, kind of laptop. I want the same in my next laptop. I would like this new laptop to handle all of the typically tasks like word processing, watch
videos and listen to songs, web browsing, etc. Also programs I will be using is Finale (sheet music creation software), Paintshop pro, animation software and a long battery charge so I dont need to power it. . I also understand that if I was to play videos (and probably songs-I tunes) that that would increase the emfs greatly, I think, by 10 times more (plz dont quote me on that tho). I also would like to hardwire my laptop so ill need an ethernet port. The less wireless, the better. Also, I need a printer with an ethernet port (no wireless). Obviously im going to use the wireless capability but use it consciously. Ok, I think thats it.


Can you recommend low-emf pc laptops with the current operating system (I think

the latest in win 10)?


and


Can you recommend current printers with an ethernet port (no wireless, plz). I would rather buy a printer that is all-in-one cartridge than buying seperate inks.


Budget-Im willing to spend $500-$800 ish range for a good sturdy performance laptop and $100 or less is my end goal for a printer but in order to find a descent printer, I might have to spend a little more. Not sure on that. Also, I would like an all-in-one cartridge kind of printer(if they even exist) rather than separate ink.

Thank you for all your help in advance!

Jazz
 
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VirtualLarry

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Budget-Im willing to spend $500-$800 ish range for a good sturdy performance laptop and $100 or less is my end goal for a printer but in order to find a descent printer, I might have to spend a little more. Not sure on that. Also, I would like an all-in-one cartridge kind of printer(if they even exist) rather than separate ink.
Well, as far as laptop's go, I'm not all that familiar with the EMF output from the "guts" of the laptop, but you clearly want one with a hardware "OFF" switch for the Wifi card. (Most/many laptops have a toggle for "Airplane mode", or "Wifi disable".)

I just got an HP 14" Slim Ryzen 3 3200U laptop, with 2.4/5Ghz AC wifi, and it has an "Airplane" function switch. It also has an ethernet port.

I think that a laptop with a metal chassis, would be best for containing / grounding (if that's even possible on a two-pin DC-in jack) EMF, traditionally, more business laptops have that.

Although, my HP's bottom panel is mostly covered with metal sheets, too, to contain EMF.

As far as the printer goes, maybe look for a "business" inkjet printer? It will cost you more up-front, but much more likely to have an ethernet jack, and allow you to shut off or otherwise not have a wireless connection.

Also, separate inks may be more of a hassle, but, to my way of thinking, they might be more economical, longer-term, as with the all-in-in carts, if one of the inks gets low, you have to toss the whole thing.

Edit: Here's the HP that I picked up. Works really well, but I also upgraded to 2x8GB DDR4-2400 as soon as I got it set up. (RAM would cost $60-70 @ Newegg, and I got the silver model laptop, not the gold colored one.)

https://www.walmart.com/ip/HP-14-Sl...4GB-128GB-SSD-Pale-Gold-14-dk0024wm/574465857
 
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VirtualLarry

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I also understand that if I was to play videos (and probably songs-I tunes) that that would increase the emfs greatly, I think, by 10 times more (plz dont quote me on that tho).
BTW, I don't think that would be true. If you play video, the screen will obviously be on, but other than that, it shouldn't generate any more EMF than just using the laptop. And listening to audio shouldn't generate any extra EMF either. (We hear in sonic waves, not really EMF, most humans anyways.)
 

mindless1

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electromagnetic_hypersensitivity

Electromagnetic hypersensitivity (EHS) is a claimed sensitivity to electromagnetic fields, to which negative symptoms are attributed. EHS has no scientific basis and is not a recognised medical diagnosis.

I urge you to abandon your thoughts that you have EHS, because that will prevent you from seeking the true source of your ailment.

Massive amounts of EMF can cause harm, but the low level coming from a laptop is not significant, unless you literally have it resting on your lap and are concerned about your legs being burnt or your sperm viability. In either case, either move it off your lap or get an EMF shield plate to put between it and your lap.

If I were to indulge your paranoia then I would suggest that you use your laptop with a different wired keyboard at a greater distance, and use an external, very large monitor so this also can be at a great distance. EMF strength GREATLY decreases with distance.

Otherwise, since this paranoia is obscure and new laptop models come out all the time, nobody will have contemporary data. You'll need to take an EMF meter to a local store to test each individual model, or if you were satisfied with your HP Pavillion, why not just buy the newer model of that?

The main things I would want changed from your current laptop for your described purposes is to see if your animation software can benefit from GPU acceleration then get a model with a GPU that can assist, to get a higher vertical resolution than 768p, and get something with an SSD.
https://support.hp.com/us-en/document/c03191532

Otherwise, just about any laptop with an i5 or i7 should suit your needs and wouldn't necessarily need to cost $500 to $800 unless the price is due to inclusion of a reasonable performance GPU instead of integrated video, again if your animation software can benefit from that.
 
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IntelUser2000

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I need to buy a low-emf laptop as I am experiencing electro-hypersensitivity symptoms.

Let's say you do have EMF sensitivity. Since we don't understand fully about the human body, it might be possible.

However, even if the symptoms are legitimate it could be exacerbated by the fact that you have other problems, because its not normal. So you want to make sure of that before you hypothesize on a problem that you might not have.

Besides, I think there's an easy way of testing EMF sensitivity. Stand under the large power transmission towers. They carry tens of KV with many amperes of current. If you take your multimeter with you, you'll be able to measure 40-60V of AC. Don't worry, you won't get hurt.

Laptops are nothing compared to that. You wouldn't be able to measure EMF unless you have a super sensitive machine.
 

mindless1

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Besides, I think there's an easy way of testing EMF sensitivity. Stand under the large power transmission towers. They carry tens of KV with many amperes of current. If you take your multimeter with you, you'll be able to measure 40-60V of AC. Don't worry, you won't get hurt.

Might not be a valid test if the subject believes they are going to be in a high EMF area. The mind makes it real.

The paranoia or fear alone could cause some substantial symptoms such as high blood pressure, dizziness, anxiety, etc., especially if there is an underlying non-associated condition that makes the person's health borderline stable.
 

VirtualLarry

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Honestly, I suffer from a mental illness, and I somewhat think that I am also semi-"electro-sensitive".

A few days ago, I turned off (nearly all, I've got a fourth AP still running) of my wifi devices, and ran a 20' Cat5e (flat) cable to my bed, for browsing in bed.

I feel "better", it seems, somewhat. Not a whole lot, and could easily be placebo, I suppose. But I felt like I had cancer, or blood clots, or fungus, in my brain (and maybe I do, who knows), but ... less pain so far. I've been sleeping more too. (Like, disturbingly more, like I'm depressed. I doubt that has much to do with the wifi, and more to do with summer being mostly over.)

Edit: Though they do say wifi exposure can cause insomnia. Though I do have quite the caffeine habit too, so there's that.
 

mindless1

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^ lol, forget wifi, it's caffeine or some other unresolved stress.

Fungus in your brains... what does it taste like? We're all zombies here.

Sleep is underrated, get all you need, but if it's due to factors causing excessive amounts, you can spin the wheel of fortune to see what the general population throws at you, or see a professional.

Summer is not mostly over! There's plenty of time left to do summer things. I can easily pretend it's still summer until the first frost which around here is early November.
 

kjgartner

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Hi there,


It is time to buy a new laptop. I need to buy a low-emf laptop as I am experiencing electro-hypersensitivity symptoms. I have no clue to what makes up a low-emf laptop. Can you fill me in to what that consist of? For instance, Im not understanding the intel core 3 or 5 or 7. It is that the higher the number, the better performance?

Hello jazzkat10.

I salute your recognition that electromagnetic exposure has negative health effects for some people and to try to ease your symptoms by seeking a 'low EMF' setup. I will give you a few general recommendations. I won't provide URLs to the scientific studies, meta-analyses regarding EHS (Electrical Hypersensitivity Syndrome) or similar unless you ask. I find that a certain percentage of the internet seems to be 'triggered' by the thought that EMFs are harmful and I just want to provide you actionable info. If you are interested you might look for any of the dozens of online EHS support groups, or study some of the science compendia such as the Bioinitiative 2012 or the advocacy websites like http://www.es-uk.info/. Spoiler alert -- blood-barrier breaches allow other toxins from your environment through to the nervous system to get into mischief (molds and pollutants) and depressed melatonin will disrupt the sleep cycle, the normal body repair and impair your primary cancer fighting mechanism.

1. Radio Frequency signals, even at the low levels we are exposed to outside in urban areas and indoors in most modern homes are going to yield EHS symptoms in some.
  • WIFI = BAD
  • BLUETOOTH = BAD
  • CORDLESS PHONES = BAD
  • CELL PHONES (not on airplaine mode) = BAD

This means that almost any solution that does not disable radio frequency in your vicinity will have marginal improvement only. The alternatives requires that you are tethered in some way
  • ETHERNET = GOOD, Shielded Ethernet even better
  • ETHERNET over POWER LINES = OK
  • USB Wired Peripherals = GOOD
  • Infrared Communications = GOOD (old style wireless, though can be slow by modern standards)

Magnetic and Electrical fields near devices will tend to accumulate during the day's usage. DISTANCE is what you want, if you cannot MINIMIZE your exposure.
  • SSD or other solid state mass storage, instead of actual spinning disk will lower magnetic exposure
  • Best to use your device when running on battery instead of charging from AC
  • If you must access device while connected to AC, then use 3 prong adapter (to ensure grounding) and move the power supply as far from your body as possible

Here is one situation that reduces EMF exposure which is OK for general health, but might not be spartan enough if your symptoms are serious. There are many variations.
  • Chromebook running from battery, with SSD, connected to Ethernet. I actually use two chromebooks, so one is on charge at a time (6-8 hrs of battery life)
  • If you need access to Windows machine, consider having separate generic Windows 10 laptop 5 feet away and use a Remote Desktop or VNC to connect to it.
  • Cell phone on Airplane mode (consider using Google Voice phone number and the ObiHai VOIP connection so you can still use phone)
  • No WIFI or other RF active in your house. (If you actually want to ensure your area is clean of RF, then consider purchase of Acousticom 2)
  • Strongly recommended: turn off the electrical wires in your sleeping area at night (turn off electrical breaker) to help you recover overnight. You won't really know without being able to measure the field levels.
  • Instead of Chromebook, you could run USB wired keyboard and mouse to the Windows 10 laptop, and have your computer attached to an oversize TV/monitor so you can distance yourself
Good luck with it.
 
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mindless1

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^ Much nonsense in long post. The only truth/fact there is that wired has less emissions than wireless.

I was going to tear the post apart, such as the nonsense about picking SSD over HDD for EMF reasons, or needing to use a chromebook then access a windows machin at a distance, but it's all so absurd that I can sum it up with one sentence:

The worse possible disservice you can do to someone with health problems is indulge them in chasing windmills instead of accepting the science that low levels of EMF are not the cause of the problem and that they need to consult a doctor for science backed diagnosis.

I hate to break it to you but you aren't really having the effect you intend to. Your Chromebook, your TV, your battery charger, and now all those LED or CFL light bulbs too, are all producing EMF, and yet not enough to matter either, and it is also nonsense that, quote "Magnetic and Electrical fields near devices will tend to accumulate during the day's usage.".

The only possible result of an accumulation of EMF over time (which doesn't happen because...) is a slight (hypothetical but generally unmeasurable in any real world environment due to the very low power involved vs dissipation rate) rise in ambient temperature. They don't keep bouncing around like a rubber ball all day to accumulate, lol. Entropy, it becomes heat to whatever extent it stays in the area.
 
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kjgartner

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As a follow-up.

If the OP lives in Germany, Austria or a few other areas of Europe, then the medical system recognizes EHS as a condition, and is prepared to test for it, diagnose and treat. In the US, the medical system is still lumbering toward recognition. Such conditions are referred to sometimes as Idiopathic Environmental Intolerance, which generally means that something in the environment is harming the patient but we are not sure which. A similar example is the Multiple Chemical Sensitivity (people violently react to the presence of certain chemicals by touch or smell). Electrical Hypersensitivity takes several forms, some of which result in nearly instant symptoms (buzzing in ears, headache, chest compression) and others take a few minutes or hours to manifest. All people are affected by such electromagnetic fields, but most do not actually feel discomfort. Those with EHS are the canaries. People who do not feel such effects, themselves, often think that EHS sufferers are making it up or have mental illness, which further impedes folks getting proper treatment. This includes medical doctors.

Wireless radiation is most pervasive one I have experience with. It is the easiest to test for since we generally can control the exposure and can measure the power density with affordable instruments. The very low frequency EMF from the AC powerlines, our various devices with switch mode power supplies, large motor devices (such as the refrigerator), fluorescent lighting, PWM dimmer switches introduce harmonics (aka EMI - electromagnetic interference, sometimes called 'Dirty Electricity') onto the AC power lines in the house. These harmonics, especially in the 2kHz - 100kHz+ range have biological consequence. Adverse effects can come directly from the AC wiring in a person's house, especially if there are net magnetic fields which come from common electrical wiring issues (such as linking the neutral line from two different circuits, which is an NEC code violation as it leads to 'objectionable current,' yet all devices will appear to work well). A laptop's spinning hard disk drive will produce this kind of electrical noise that is perceived by the person whose fingers are poised over the keyboard or on whose lap the device sits. A solid state disk (SSD) does not generate this, hence the recommendation to opt for this configuration. Running on battery power will reduce the coupling to the AC EMI.

It is incorrect to believe that low levels of EMF do not affect the human body. There are thousands of scientific studies that show it does (many of those studies have had to use rats as surrogates because it is unethical to do such experimentation on humans). As to whether that level of routine EMF exposure is harmful is still controversial in the science community, so those waiting for incontrovertible evidence of harm will still have to wait 10-20 years. EMFs seem to have a strong involvement in the wide range of modern disease -- autism, Alzheimers, Parkinsons, ALS, auto-immune, cancer, male sterility, chronic fatigue syndrome and so on. Many biological mechanisms and pathways have been identified or at least posited -- melatonin metabolism, blood-brain barrier opening, cellular voltage gated calcium channel dysfunctions among others. In the mean time, does one ignore a potential harmful agent until the science catches up? That is a personal decision.

But what about "explanations" that parrot FCC blather that the only non-ionizing radiation negative biological effects will occur at high dose, due to thermal effects? Like cooking in a microwave oven. Therefore low EMF field levels could not be be harmful, right? Or that effects of low levels of EMF are not cumulative in a biological organism. This is an old narrative, far from the science (admittedly, still unsettled and under active research now). Perhaps well-meaning advice, but outdated. Even the cell phone companies acknowledge their (future) liability and require in their terms of service that your phone should be placed no closer than about one half inch from your head during use. Shouldn't the government be protecting us, if these were actually harmful? Dream on & follow the money.

For someone who wants to inform themselves and perhaps get woke to the dangers in their environment, here are some suggestions. If one does not like these particular resources, it only takes a few more moments of internet search to find additional ones:

Bioinitiative 2012 -- --~70% of the listed studies indicate show biological effect for radio frequencies and about 90% show biological effect for low frequency EMF. EMF effects at the exposure levels that are routine in some US homes. Look at research summaries for abstracts of about 600 relevant papers.
A colorful table, showing effects at mere microwatts/cm^3 --

An identification of the observed effects of pulsed and polarized radio frequency EMF (ie, Cell and Wifi) for the curious reader, Dr. Martin Pall's recent summary is thought-provoking. It was published on Pubmed in 2018, but to avoid the paywall it is also available elsewhere.

For the OP: I would suggest asking about 'low EMF computer' on EHS support web sites where people will not challenge your claims AND would actually be able to tell you what worked in their own situations.
 

mindless1

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^ This is hilarious. You've obviously been on this tangent for a long time and it still hasn't been a solution, as evidenced by your posts you still have a mental problem causing the chasing of windmills. AC home wiring? You have nothing but bad information and broken studies. You have no "result" that people would want to emulate.

Sane people would conclude that if something doesn't work then it is time to try something else, like consulting a qualified professional.

If you want to live in a mud hut in the woods, go ahead and do so, but leading by example, there is no possible way you can post on this forum without exposure to those evil death rays, so, are you a champion for hut living who ventured out into the contamination zone to sacrifice him/herself for the greater good? If you are then those evil death rays have compromised you, which is your assertion not mine.

Pics or it didn't happen.
 
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  • If you need access to Windows machine, consider having separate generic Windows 10 laptop 5 feet away and use a Remote Desktop or VNC to connect to it.
  • Instead of Chromebook, you could run USB wired keyboard and mouse to the Windows 10 laptop, and have your computer attached to an oversize TV/monitor so you can distance yourself
What's the reasoning with these two? Why is it better to VNC into a windows laptop (from a chromebook i assume?) instead of just using the windows laptop.
 

VirtualLarry

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What's the reasoning with these two? Why is it better to VNC into a windows laptop (from a chromebook i assume?) instead of just using the windows laptop.
Evil "Microsoft Mind-Control Rays" emanate from every Windows PC.,.. (so I've heard, from "experts" such as that...)
 

herm0016

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perhaps get woke


I once has a guy who was learning to be an electrician tell me that it was cool because humans still don't understand how electricity works, but we can harness it for our uses.

i was not sure if he could see the look of hopelessness on my face or not, so i had to get up and walk around for a bit.

stay in school kids!
 

sdifox

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Wear a cap and glue tin foil on it. Then buy whatever laptop you fancy.
 

haysher

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Hello jazzkat10.

I salute your recognition that electromagnetic exposure has negative health effects for some people and to try to ease your symptoms by seeking a 'low EMF' setup. I will give you a few general recommendations. I won't provide URLs to the scientific studies, meta-analyses regarding EHS (Electrical Hypersensitivity Syndrome) or similar unless you ask. I find that a certain percentage of the internet seems to be 'triggered' by the thought that EMFs are harmful and I just want to provide you actionable info. If you are interested you might look for any of the dozens of online EHS support groups, or study some of the science compendia such as the Bioinitiative 2012 or the advocacy websites like http://www.es-uk.info/. Spoiler alert -- blood-barrier breaches allow other toxins from your environment through to the nervous system to get into mischief (molds and pollutants) and depressed melatonin will disrupt the sleep cycle, the normal body repair and impair your primary cancer fighting mechanism.

1. Radio Frequency signals, even at the low levels we are exposed to outside in urban areas and indoors in most modern homes are going to yield EHS symptoms in some.
  • WIFI = BAD
  • BLUETOOTH = BAD
  • CORDLESS PHONES = BAD
  • CELL PHONES (not on airplaine mode) = BAD

This means that almost any solution that does not disable radio frequency in your vicinity will have marginal improvement only. The alternatives requires that you are tethered in some way
  • ETHERNET = GOOD, Shielded Ethernet even better
  • ETHERNET over POWER LINES = OK
  • USB Wired Peripherals = GOOD
  • Infrared Communications = GOOD (old style wireless, though can be slow by modern standards)

Magnetic and Electrical fields near devices will tend to accumulate during the day's usage. DISTANCE is what you want, if you cannot MINIMIZE your exposure.
  • SSD or other solid state mass storage, instead of actual spinning disk will lower magnetic exposure
  • Best to use your device when running on battery instead of charging from AC
  • If you must access device while connected to AC, then use 3 prong adapter (to ensure grounding) and move the power supply as far from your body as possible

Here is one situation that reduces EMF exposure which is OK for general health, but might not be spartan enough if your symptoms are serious. There are many variations.
  • Chromebook running from battery, with SSD, connected to Ethernet. I actually use two chromebooks, so one is on charge at a time (6-8 hrs of battery life)
  • If you need access to Windows machine, consider having separate generic Windows 10 laptop 5 feet away and use a Remote Desktop or VNC to connect to it.
  • Cell phone on Airplane mode (consider using Google Voice phone number and the ObiHai VOIP connection so you can still use phone)
  • No WIFI or other RF active in your house. (If you actually want to ensure your area is clean of RF, then consider purchase of Acousticom 2)
  • Strongly recommended: turn off the electrical wires in your sleeping area at night (turn off electrical breaker) to help you recover overnight. You won't really know without being able to measure the field levels.
  • Instead of Chromebook, you could run USB wired keyboard and mouse to the Windows 10 laptop, and have your computer attached to an oversize TV/monitor so you can distance yourself
Good luck with it.
thank you so much for this response! I also have severe EHS and am looking for a way to find a LOw EMF set up so i can use an actual computor. I got a PC stick and was hoping to build a faraday cage around it, but am concerned about the output regarding the monitor itself. Anyways, just finished Anne Mills' book All EMF*d Up: My Journey through Radiation Poisoning. Tons of resources there, but stil lhard to find something like this. so thank you. anything else you've learned in the past few years to add to this? thoughts regarding a PC stick?
 

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thank you so much for this response! I also have severe EHS and am looking for a way to find a LOw EMF set up so i can use an actual computor. I got a PC stick and was hoping to build a faraday cage around it, but am concerned about the output regarding the monitor itself. Anyways, just finished Anne Mills' book All EMF*d Up: My Journey through Radiation Poisoning. Tons of resources there, but stil lhard to find something like this. so thank you. anything else you've learned in the past few years to add to this? thoughts regarding a PC stick?

best solution is to wear a metal helmet (or plastic helmet with metal wire mesh) with a fine metal mesh face cover, then you are protected at all times.
 
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Higher speed CPUs would generate more EMF. Get a laptop with N100 or N300 CPU and keep it on power saving profile so it doesn't spend much time above 1 GHz.
 

sdifox

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Higher speed CPUs would generate more EMF. Get a laptop with N100 or N300 CPU and keep it on power saving profile so it doesn't spend much time above 1 GHz.

Any sensory sensation you get from the world is EMF...
 

kjgartner

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thank you so much for this response! I also have severe EHS and am looking for a way to find a LOw EMF set up so i can use an actual computor. I got a PC stick and was hoping to build a faraday cage around it, but am concerned about the output regarding the monitor itself. Anyways, just finished Anne Mills' book All EMF*d Up: My Journey through Radiation Poisoning. Tons of resources there, but stil lhard to find something like this. so thank you. anything else you've learned in the past few years to add to this? thoughts regarding a PC stick?

Haysher, I am glad you have had some benefit from what I posted three years ago.

It depends on how sensitive you are. All of the advice I offered before is still relevant, except the suggestion to couple Google Voice with Obihai device for landline access -- Obihai is retiring that product in 2023.

I have worked with dozens of electrically sensitive households. Usually the people are so over-exposed because of EMFs in their sleeping space, that they remain agitated all day and cannot work with computer equipment at all. The best path for healing involves a very serious effort of avoidance, such as ensuring there are no RF-emitting devices in your household and repairing any electrical wiring situations where excess AC magnetic fields are running through areas where you sleep or operate during the day.

Unless you have enough mental clarity to DIY this, consult a Building Biologist. Unlike some of this forum's members, such a person will actually believe what you are feeling, will help to identify what is correctable and come up with a plan to deal with your specific situation. Never let someone mansplain to you that electrical hypersensitivity is not a real condition. Everyone should be concerned about how to live safely with technology, but it is not properly discussed and so misinformation runs rampant. Look at the Building Biology Institute for certified practitioners in North America.

The best recommendation I have for a person with environmental sensitivities is to ensure you have an excellent product return policy in place.

A simple test you can run on your equipment is to take an old style portable AM radio, turn it to 540 kHz (the far left of the dial), turn it on. Extending the antenna is not necessary. Wave it over your computer equipment and other digital devices. If you hear very angry sounds -- buzzing, whining, etc. -- then such a device is unlikely to feel comfortable when you are in proximity or touching it. I suppose some people might try conductive gloves that have a ground strap and see if the keyboard poses trouble.

If you are having trouble viewing the monitor, it might be the unbalanced spectral characteristics (aka, 'blue light'). Some people get immediate relief by using 'blue-blocking' glasses, though these don't do much for me (I am not EHS, just EMF-cautious). There are shielded monitor power cables that might help significantly. If your monitor is emanating fields that you still feel at the recommended distance of about 24 inches, then you might consider 'veilshield' for it.

I find that running a Raspberry Pi 400 (computer contained in the keyboard, neither fan nor disk drive), with a USB-powered monitor on an artist easel and the entire thing running from a large USB power brick, with USB keyboard (unlit) and USB mouse and ethernet has no microwave emanation, very low AC magnetic, moderate AC electric fields. Many folks find that some optical mice and much more injurious than others. If one needs Windows OS software, then this might not be a helpful config, but the concept is transferrable to various headless computer bricks (Linux or Windows/OS).

My electrosensitive partner has 2 identical chromebooks (SSD, no fan) so one is always charging and she uses it solely from battery in a room without any AC electricity at all. She is very EHS, so has a magnetic shield across the keyboard and solely uses a mouse with a 'swipe' style on-screen keyboard. She uses wired connection (ethernet) and grounds the chassis via the USB port. Each addition was A/B compared as to whether it was an improvement for her or not, so it took many months to settle on this arrangement. She can use this computer without time limitations without fatigue and mental fog issues. After 4 years of extreme EMF avoidance she is a few percent improved in health, so do not expect a fast recovery if you actually have been biologically damaged.
We run a zero RF household and routinely have microwave exposure far below 1 microwatt per meter squared (PEAK measurement, not AVG). This is probably not achievable in your case, but worth the attempt.

Give yourself time to heal. This wake-up call is quite disruptive to your life now, but in the long run might well extend your life. Naysayers who over-exposure themselves every day and disdain the effect that man-made EMFs have on electromagnetic biological systems may contend with dreadful (yet preventable) chronic health issues. Let us hope that the lesson of environmental canaries is not lost in the noise.
 

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From a trip around the internet:

There are a few brands that offer low EMF (electromagnetic field) laptops, but it's important to note that there is no such thing as a completely EMF-free laptop. Some options to consider include:

  1. Dell Latitude 7400 - This business laptop has an "Eco mode" that reduces the amount of EMF emitted by the device.
  2. HP Elitebook 840 G6 - This business laptop also has an "EMF reduction mode" that reduces the amount of EMF emitted.
  3. Apple MacBook - The MacBook has been shown to emit lower levels of EMF than many other laptops. Apple also offers information on reducing EMF exposure on their website.
  4. Lenovo ThinkPad - The ThinkPad has been tested to emit lower levels of EMF than many other laptops, and Lenovo also offers an EMF reduction mode.
  5. ASUS laptops - ASUS has developed an "ASUS HealthConnect" technology that claims to reduce EMF exposure.
 
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