This training company rep came over today. He talks about that they are not only a company to offer courses but they offer ?support? and train you for jobs. They also have links with big HR firms.
I don?t think he was impressed that I was going to apply for other companies. I think he wanted me to think that his training courses were the ?key? to getting a job. I told him flat out the jobs I have been looking at do not require any professional certification. They just want a degree from a science/ computer background and for the person to be interested in IT/ Computers.
He had newspaper clippings of how Network admin guys were in need. Said CCNA guys pull in £35k-£70k. Had also another page with seriously inflated salaries.
I also mentioned I was going to apply to CISCO through their graduation scheme along with other companies (Accenture, EDS, Atkins etc)
He kept on asking me why I wanted to look in to learning for certificates. I told him repeatedly I am looking in to my options and that it adds something extra for me. It makes me different to the rest of the graduates. I was thinking what does he want from me? I'm just looking in to options that I have available to me.
He mentions the MCSE and I thought of telling him I think it is completely junk but I didn?t want to be rude so I kept that to myself.
Before he leaves I ask him about the cost of the CCNA course. He didn?t want to tell me. I asked him again and he said it was irrelevant.
Hope this was better.
Koing
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Incoherent rubbish written the first time around.
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Yup.
He came over. He was 15minutes (not impressed) and gave me his sales pitch. I'm not one to be 'sold' a product under pressure and BS. I'm good at talking and selling people stuff myself. He was talking about their training company and what they do. That they don't only provide a course but help you to get a job etc etc etc. Showed me some newspaper clippings etc etc.
I think he wasn't impressed that I was going to apply for various companies. They provide commercial training for qualifications CCNA/ MSCE etc.
He thinks graduate CCNA in England would get £35k and that it is a 'specialist' market. I don't think it is that specialist. Loved how he showed me a newspaper clipping from last year from a Computer Newspaper in October 2005 about a shortage of Network guys . And this other page with SERIOUSLY inflated salaries
I told him I was going to look at various companies and apply and that none of them asked for CCNA or MSCE qualifications. That they would train you up. Afterall I do have a degree in CS and can apply to them. I was going to tell him I thought the MSCE was a BS course but I thought I'd be nice and not.
The kicker was me telling him how I had checked out CISCO's graduate scheme via their own website.
To me it was just checking out my options out and seeing what companies offer. I didn't pay for him to come over and I certainly would not have done so.
In the end I think he was p!ssed. I asked about price of the course and he WOULD NOT TELL ME. WTF?! He wouldn't even tell me. What a load of BS. I asked him again and he said he would not tell me due to some interest or something.
Heres to finding a better job in a few months time :thumbsup:
Koing
Cliffs:
Training recruitment guy comes 15mins late
Gives me his sales pitch and BS
BS about CCNA picking up £35-70k start
Talks about MCSE (I think is BS and wouldn't do it anyway)
Gives newspaper clippings of Network guys in demand from Computer newspaper
Gets pissy that I am going to apply to other companies graduate scheme
Gets more pissy when I say I am looking in to this to check my options out (recent grad in CS, working as Systems Test Engineer for past 8 months)
I ask price he won't tell me. He gets up tight.
I ask price again he won't tell me.
I'm not the right candidate for them
He leaves
PS Have you guys noticed that there are about a billion jobs for Recruitment guys? Guys looking to hire guys to hire other guys?! I certainly have in England.
I don?t think he was impressed that I was going to apply for other companies. I think he wanted me to think that his training courses were the ?key? to getting a job. I told him flat out the jobs I have been looking at do not require any professional certification. They just want a degree from a science/ computer background and for the person to be interested in IT/ Computers.
He had newspaper clippings of how Network admin guys were in need. Said CCNA guys pull in £35k-£70k. Had also another page with seriously inflated salaries.
I also mentioned I was going to apply to CISCO through their graduation scheme along with other companies (Accenture, EDS, Atkins etc)
He kept on asking me why I wanted to look in to learning for certificates. I told him repeatedly I am looking in to my options and that it adds something extra for me. It makes me different to the rest of the graduates. I was thinking what does he want from me? I'm just looking in to options that I have available to me.
He mentions the MCSE and I thought of telling him I think it is completely junk but I didn?t want to be rude so I kept that to myself.
Before he leaves I ask him about the cost of the CCNA course. He didn?t want to tell me. I asked him again and he said it was irrelevant.
Hope this was better.
Koing
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Incoherent rubbish written the first time around.
=============================================
Yup.
He came over. He was 15minutes (not impressed) and gave me his sales pitch. I'm not one to be 'sold' a product under pressure and BS. I'm good at talking and selling people stuff myself. He was talking about their training company and what they do. That they don't only provide a course but help you to get a job etc etc etc. Showed me some newspaper clippings etc etc.
I think he wasn't impressed that I was going to apply for various companies. They provide commercial training for qualifications CCNA/ MSCE etc.
He thinks graduate CCNA in England would get £35k and that it is a 'specialist' market. I don't think it is that specialist. Loved how he showed me a newspaper clipping from last year from a Computer Newspaper in October 2005 about a shortage of Network guys . And this other page with SERIOUSLY inflated salaries
I told him I was going to look at various companies and apply and that none of them asked for CCNA or MSCE qualifications. That they would train you up. Afterall I do have a degree in CS and can apply to them. I was going to tell him I thought the MSCE was a BS course but I thought I'd be nice and not.
The kicker was me telling him how I had checked out CISCO's graduate scheme via their own website.
To me it was just checking out my options out and seeing what companies offer. I didn't pay for him to come over and I certainly would not have done so.
In the end I think he was p!ssed. I asked about price of the course and he WOULD NOT TELL ME. WTF?! He wouldn't even tell me. What a load of BS. I asked him again and he said he would not tell me due to some interest or something.
Heres to finding a better job in a few months time :thumbsup:
Koing
Cliffs:
Training recruitment guy comes 15mins late
Gives me his sales pitch and BS
BS about CCNA picking up £35-70k start
Talks about MCSE (I think is BS and wouldn't do it anyway)
Gives newspaper clippings of Network guys in demand from Computer newspaper
Gets pissy that I am going to apply to other companies graduate scheme
Gets more pissy when I say I am looking in to this to check my options out (recent grad in CS, working as Systems Test Engineer for past 8 months)
I ask price he won't tell me. He gets up tight.
I ask price again he won't tell me.
I'm not the right candidate for them
He leaves
PS Have you guys noticed that there are about a billion jobs for Recruitment guys? Guys looking to hire guys to hire other guys?! I certainly have in England.