Redneck solution to oil spill clean up....might actually have some merit

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Patranus

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lol. did you miss that whole year long ordeal where obama asked repubs for suggestions on healthcare while they did nothing but stick their tongues out like children?

What alternate reality do you live in?
 

Babbles

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I say give these guys a shrimp boat and let them give it a try.

In all seriousness, though, it may not be a bad idea to treat portions of the spill that get close to coastal areas.
 

waggy

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I say give these guys a shrimp boat and let them give it a try.

In all seriousness, though, it may not be a bad idea to treat portions of the spill that get close to coastal areas.

that's what i was thinking. if it works as well as they say use it near the coast. where if it hits landfall its 10x's harder to clean up.

sure it may not be enough to do the whole spill but better then nothing and the crap they been doing.
 

sandorski

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It's kind of ironic though. A couple years ago the Price of Food skyrocketed, partially because we were using Food to produce Energy. Now we're discussing using Food(not directly for Humans, but indirectly) to clean up a mess caused by our Energy needs, that would also cause a disruption and likely Price increase to our Food. I can't help but think of our ancient ancestors sacrificing Food to appease their god(s).

I still think this is a good idea, but it can only be done on a limited scale.
 

edro

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Let's see, he used of 1/4 lb hay to soak up a half-cup of oil, and with the leak spewing between 40,000 and 150,000 barrels per day, we only need.. uh.. about 9.8 gazillion fuck-tons of hay to just dump in the ocean somehow.
lol
 

Patranus

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Let's see, he used of 1/4 lb hay to soak up a half-cup of oil, and with the leak spewing between 40,000 and 150,000 barrels per day, we only need.. uh.. about 9.8 gazillion fuck-tons of hay to just dump in the ocean somehow.

You are assuming that the straw capacity was maxed out.
 

shortylickens

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As bad as this situation is, we may not be in the position to pick and choose. We may have to do anything we can, try multiple things at once, and hope to god we have some effect.

More scary news: I saw on Reuters they cant even properly estimate how much is flowing. Some guesses are 5000 barrels a day, some are 100,000 barrels a day. Thats a HUGE difference. If we dont even know how much is coming out we are going to have difficulties organizing a plan to clean it up.
 
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Jesusthewererabbit

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As bad as this situation is, we may not be in the position to pick and choose. We may have to do anything we can, try multiple things at once, and hope to god we have some effect.

More scary news: I saw on Reuters they cant even properly estimate how much is flowing. Some guesses are 5000 barrels a day, some are 100,000 barbells a day. Thats a HUGE difference. If we dont even know how much is coming out we are going to have difficulties organizing a plan to clean it up.

God, I hope it's not 100,000 barbells a day. That's a lot of barbells. I don't think even Arnie in his prime could have handled 100,000 barbells.
 

Ballatician

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Yes, its the oil companies' responsibility, but we're better off if the government steps in to help.

Its like when a kid drops his lunch tray all over the cafeteria at school. Yes, its his responsibility to clean it up, but its in the best interest of all the students if the teachers steps in to help get it cleaned up faster and better.

I agree that the govt should have a role in overseeing the process but I do think that the people actually in the industry would have better knowledge of how to perform the cleanup.

It was being insinuated in the video, however, that the govt was somehow controlling the method of cleanup and too arrogant to listen to the hay solution. BP and the other oil and gas companies are the ones who are performing AND paying for the cleanup and it is in everyones (including the govts) interest that it happen quickly so I doubt that they are not using the hay method for some twisted political reason.
 

KaOTiK

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While the idea is good, there is no way there is enough hay available to deal with the mess out there in the gulf atm. BUT, I think this would work incredibly well for oil that is closing in on coastline area and saving or at least minimizing the amount of oil that reaches the shore and/or gets in the sand on the shore.
 

shortylickens

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God, I hope it's not 100,000 barbells a day. That's a lot of barbells. I don't think even Arnie in his prime could have handled 100,000 barbells.

FUCKING CHROME!
Keeps picking the wrong fucking words during spell check!

Wait...........
Why the fuck did it pick the right word the first time?

FUCKING CHROME!
 

ElFenix

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As bad as this situation is, we may not be in the position to pick and choose. We may have to do anything we can, try multiple things at once, and hope to god we have some effect.

More scary news: I saw on Reuters they cant even properly estimate how much is flowing. Some guesses are 5000 barrels a day, some are 100,000 barrels a day. Thats a HUGE difference. If we dont even know how much is coming out we are going to have difficulties organizing a plan to clean it up.

the guy at purdue was estimating the total volume, which includes gas. it could very well be 5000 barrels of crude and a couple hundred mcf of gas (1 barrel is about 5.6 cubic feet, even a mile under water 5.6 cubic feet of gas wouldn't be much at all, 47 cubic feet is one kilogram)


anyway, i think hay may be used in boom.
 
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disappoint

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I see he pushed it down with a strainer. Got a strainer more than 10 miles wide? Nice demonstration, but why am I not surprised these two math geniuses forgot to scale it up to the current problem in the gulf? How much hay? Delivery method? Method for retrieving the hay? Is it better than chemical solutions used now? Is it better than the tanker sucking up the oil spill now? Does it address the leak which obviously must be stopped?

There's a reason why people with an education are better problem solvers than joe shmoe and his backhoe.

What's the difference between a scientist and a charlatan? Quantitative analysis. I don't trust any dumbass who's afraid of numbers to tell me jack all about jack schitt. And jack just left town.

Thank you I'll be here all week. But act now because you know we can't do this all day.
 

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SunnyD

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So what do you all think? Is BP happy that they're starting to "contain" this massive environmental issue or are they happier that the crude from this immense oil deposit is making it into tankers now and thus into their corporate bank accounts in the long run?
 

0roo0roo

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As bad as this situation is, we may not be in the position to pick and choose. We may have to do anything we can, try multiple things at once, and hope to god we have some effect.

More scary news: I saw on Reuters they cant even properly estimate how much is flowing. Some guesses are 5000 barrels a day, some are 100,000 barrels a day. Thats a HUGE difference. If we dont even know how much is coming out we are going to have difficulties organizing a plan to clean it up.

http://www.cbsnews.com/sections/60minutes/main3415.shtml
yesterdays 60 minutes was above average in quality, pretty good info on the spill and the failures that led to it. they seriously seriously f**ked up, they just plowed straight through their safety margins..
 

Wheezer

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I see he pushed it down with a strainer. Got a strainer more than 10 miles wide? Nice demonstration, but why am I not surprised these two math geniuses forgot to scale it up to the current problem in the gulf? How much hay? Delivery method? Method for retrieving the hay? Is it better than chemical solutions used now? Is it better than the tanker sucking up the oil spill now? Does it address the leak which obviously must be stopped?

There's a reason why people with an education are better problem solvers than joe shmoe and his backhoe.

What's the difference between a scientist and a charlatan? Quantitative analysis. I don't trust any dumbass who's afraid of numbers to tell me jack all about jack schitt. And jack just left town.

Thank you I'll be here all week. But act now because you know we can't do this all day.

clean the shit outta your ears and go back and re-watch the vid..he gives out some ideas on just those points.

and those tankers are only going to hold so much AND they are not going to capture what is already there floating in the water.
 

PepePeru

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So we soak up oil with hay...

What will the horses eat?

They are obviously in favor of equocide.
 
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