Refinancing your home...Now is the time...

Oct 29, 2002
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Overnight Averages* Today +/- Last Week
30 Yr Fixed Mtg 5.78% 5.84%
15 Yr Fixed Mtg 5.19% 5.24%
30 Yr Jumbo 6.04% 6.11%
1/1 ARM 4.03% 4.19%


with the rate cute of today, its the lowest ever..
time to start a new refi thread!
 

CocoGdog

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Great Rates. Only problem is that the points and closing cost are going to set you back at least $3000 - $4000 per transaction.
 

juser

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Not true CocoGdog. Yesterday I had a 30-year ready at 6.0% with ~$700 in lenders fees.

The question is how this cut on short term rates will be reflected on long term rates.
 

Doggus

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Originally posted by: CocoGdog
Great Rates. Only problem is that the points and closing cost are going to set you back at least $3000 - $4000 per transaction.

Not with an FHA streamline refinance!
 

Ziptar

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Just closed on my new house on Thursday at 6% ...... If 30 year Fixed get down to 4% (who knows) I will refi !!
 

T2T III

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Originally posted by: Doggus
Originally posted by: CocoGdog
Great Rates. Only problem is that the points and closing cost are going to set you back at least $3000 - $4000 per transaction.

Not with an FHA streamline refinance!
That's right. I just went to closing last evening on a VA streamlined refinance. I only paid for the VA funding fee ~ $655 - and nothing else was rolled into the loan in regards to closing costs. For convenetional loans, yes, the closing costs could be quite a bit higher.
 

Overzeetop

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Don't forget to add state taxes to your transaction. It could add another 1/2 to 1% of the new loan. A drop in the fed rate won't really affect mortgages (unless you have an index to the prime, and the prime rate drops with the fed rate).

Look at the long bonds if you want to know where mortgages are going. This is how GWB really screwed the American people (and I'm not even a liberal). By floating another 800 Billion dollars in national debt, the market demand for long, safe investments has been re-saturated preventing the rates from dropping too much lower. Why buy *-Mae, when you can get US securities. Remember the dip after the 30 year bonds went off the market? Don't forget the 5 Trillion (yes, now greater than half the market capitalization of the entire stock market) in US debt already in the market. Elimiate the national debt, and you just might see mortgages dip below 5%. Now there's a savings you can take to the bank.

Anyway, the rates are good and have been for two months now. I locked at 6.125% for nothing with my current lender two months ago (I close Friday). I paid ~$150 in fees, an appraisal, title insurance, and my closing attorney fee. The taxes were zero on the original amount, because the state of VA sees it as a renegotiation of rate with my current lender, rather than a new mortgage. I even rolled my HELOC (currently at ~3.85% before the Fed cut) into the first - a bump up in rate, but I'll be (net) saving each month on the two combined, and my rate is guaranteed for 30 years.

BTW - my mortgage lender is Chase Manhattan, one of the best out there. I get a statement each month showing the last payment, the principal, interest, and impound amounts, and my remaining balance. They're a breeze to deal with on the phone, too. I spoke to the Blacksburg, VA rep - Dennis Duncan (dennisduncan.com) - one of the best in the business. I believe he does most of southwest Virginia. He's not the lowest rate (but usually close), and doesn't have online rate quotes (you have to call), but he's honest and generally a good guy. He has built up a reputation in and around Blacksburg over many years. His office _is_ very busy, so a little patience is required at times.

 

Bill00

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I wouldn't rush into this.

The Fed just cut rates another half point today (11/6) and that will be worked into mortgage rates soon. Might not get a full half point lower, but should feel some dip.

Also, if you are doing a refi, check with your current lender; lots of times they can give you a better overall price by not requiring a new survey, credit check, etc. ad naseum. Also remember that EVERYTHING is negotiable -- they might well give a little to keep you as a customer; if not tell them you will shop elsewhere, and DO SO.
 

T2T III

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Originally posted by: Bill00
I wouldn't rush into this.

The Fed just cut rates another half point today (11/6) and that will be worked into mortgage rates soon. Might not get a full half point lower, but should feel some dip.

Also, if you are doing a refi, check with your current lender; lots of times they can give you a better overall price by not requiring a new survey, credit check, etc. ad naseum. Also remember that EVERYTHING is negotiable -- they might well give a little to keep you as a customer; if not tell them you will shop elsewhere, and DO SO.
Good advice. If the rate drops 1/4 of a point, I'll go through another streamlined refinance. Yes, I agree it's usually good to go through your current lender to see what they can do for you. However, my original lender - US Bank Home Mortgage, never returned request for a refinance call that I left with them over a month ago. With this being the case, I moved onto another lender.
 

kimagurealex

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If anyone live in the bayarea, CA. I would suggest you to try the Infoloan. I have the best customer service from them and I get the best deal from their agence. They would even send ppl to my house just because I don't want to drive to their companies in San Jose or Cupertino to sign some paper work. (NO COST)
Alex
 

Squisher

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Those numbers for rates might not reflect the real world rates you will receive.

Lenders will pare their rates down and jack up their closing costs.

They will tell you those rates are for only their best customers, or are only offered for loans in excess of $250K.

Infact, I had a hard time refinancing the balance of my Mortgage be cause it was only $75K. Many said they were not taking loans under $165K.

I'm closing on the 18th at 5.5% on a 15yr. fixed with $1100 closing costs.

 

HoosierDadE

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Got in at 5.25 APR fixed, no points, no fee (actually $10 fee for my state) from an Anandtech or Apex deal early this year. I can't remember the bank name though and the payment coupons say something else anyway. Maybe a search if others don't pan out. It was a strange deal anyway because it was actually a home equity loan I used to pay off the mortgage (which was less than half the home value)
 
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