Refurbished 6600GT okay?

hans030390

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Well, i noticed that you can get a refurbished Leadtek 6600GT agp for ~$185. now, this is just the card and no software bundles that come with the card. my two concerns:

1. Is the card more likely to break since it has been used (or something like that)
2. do i need the stuff in the bundle?
3. am i better off getting a new card and bundle? (card longetivity, do i need the bundle, etc)

uh yeah that was kinda repetitive...but what do you think?
 

fibes

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1. Is the card more likely to break since it has been used (or something like that)

That all depends if the card has been abused by excessive OCing.

2. do i need the stuff in the bundle?

No, you can download the lastest drivers from Nvidia's website. Unless, you want free games, then you would have purchase the card new.

3. am i better off getting a new card and bundle? (card longetivity, do i need the bundle, etc)

I'm kinda in the same boat as you. It's pretty much luck of the draw. Sometimes people just return cards because they didn't perform to their expectations. I guess you have to weight the pros and cons of the purchase. Do you want to play it safe and spend MSRP or more for a new card? Or take a chance save $20-$60 and hope it's not D.O.A. Bottomline, it's purely a judgement call. I hope this helps!
 

nitromullet

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1. Is the card more likely to break since it has been used (or something like that)

I wouldn't worry about that so much. If the card is in good operationg condition it should run fine for just as long as a new card. Most of the failures I have seen with video cards involve the fan and not silicon.

2. do i need the stuff in the bundle?

Nope. Get the drivers from nVidia. Most bundles are just older games anyway. If the bundle actually includes a game that you want compare the price of the refurb+game to the card with the bundle price.

Other things to consider:

1) How much money do you save?
2) How reputable is the vendor and what is their exchange policy for refurbs? Most vendors have shortened RMA periods for refurbs, but if you can save a bundle and will test your hardware ASAP it can be a worthwhile bet.
3) How is the vendor on return shipping for RMA's? If the card is bad, will you eat up your savings in retrun shipping?
 

SrGuapo

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Originally posted by: intogamer
No wtf you can get a new card for around that price.
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your link doesn't work but I am going to gues that is a PCI-e card. Those will run $30-40 less than the AGP cards. I have never seen a reputable AGP 6600gt under $200.

edit: Link works niow, but it is a PCI-e card.
 

bobsmith1492

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I've been running a Gigabyte 5900xt refurb from Newegg since a year ago; it was a great deal at the time for 150, and they aren't much less even now. It OCs pretty well, too, so I have no idea why it was returned. I think some people just don't know what they're doing and just send them back, so you're pretty safe in buying a refurb.
 

sellmen

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Newegg refurbs are not safe. They aren't even refurbished - they are customer returns which haven't even been tested. I have received refurbs from Newegg that don't work at all. Esentially, Newegg is letting you do the job of sorting out their returns and seeing which ones work.

If you get a card that works, you end up getting a great deal. Realize though that it is a risk.
 

MisterChief

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I bought a refurbished 9600XT from a company called Ivex a while ago on Ebay. As far as I can tell, Ivex is a legitamate company with real refurbishing facilities. I never had a problem with that card. And for $50, it was a great deal .

Oh, and for $185, it's best to buy a new 6600GT.
 

bobsmith1492

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Hum, I didn't know that. I guess I got lucky

So how come on the refurb page they say the items were tested by the manufacturer?
 

Pieded

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are refurbed stuff warrantied for 90 days from newegg? or...some time of warranty if the product doesn't work


for $185, i don't think it's worth it. all you need is $15 more and you can get a brand new one
 

hans030390

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actually, im buying a leadtek, so its $33 more :-

thats prolly a good extra 2 months i would have to wait.

if it has SOME type of warranty on it, and it doesnt work, couldnt i just send it back for a new one?
 

sman83

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I have bought a mobo and sata hard drive refurbished from newegg and not a single problem with them.
 

nRollo

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Originally posted by: sellmen
Newegg refurbs are not safe. They aren't even refurbished - they are customer returns which haven't even been tested. I have received refurbs from Newegg that don't work at all. Esentially, Newegg is letting you do the job of sorting out their returns and seeing which ones work.

If you get a card that works, you end up getting a great deal. Realize though that it is a risk.

Bzzzzt! Wrong!

Newegg.com does not test any product, including refurbished items. Refurbished components are therefore only tested by the original manufacturer. Due to the varying quality of manufacturer testing, YOU ARE TAKING A RISK BUYING REFURBISHED PRODUCTS. Refurbished items are OPEN BOX products that contain components that have previously been owned by other clients and returned to Newegg.com.

So while you are right that they are returns to newegg, you are wrong in that they have been returned to the original manufacturer and supposedly tested there.

The whole refurb thing was probably a lot safer before the advent of the "Hyuk! Hyuk! I'm gonna buy me the $300 card, OC it twice as fast as the $500 card, an' get me seven hunnert dollars of per-for-mance for my $300! Heehaw!" dumbass era. :roll:

Oh well, I'm taking my first foray into refurb land this week with two 6800NUs I'll be SLIing. You think I'll be gaming with them and running a LOT of benchmarks during my 15 day return period?

I do.
 

sellmen

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Originally posted by: Rollo
Originally posted by: sellmen
Newegg refurbs are not safe. They aren't even refurbished - they are customer returns which haven't even been tested. I have received refurbs from Newegg that don't work at all. Esentially, Newegg is letting you do the job of sorting out their returns and seeing which ones work.

If you get a card that works, you end up getting a great deal. Realize though that it is a risk.

Bzzzzt! Wrong!

Newegg.com does not test any product, including refurbished items. Refurbished components are therefore only tested by the original manufacturer. Due to the varying quality of manufacturer testing, YOU ARE TAKING A RISK BUYING REFURBISHED PRODUCTS. Refurbished items are OPEN BOX products that contain components that have previously been owned by other clients and returned to Newegg.com.

So while you are right that they are returns to newegg, you are wrong in that they have been returned to the original manufacturer and supposedly tested there.

The whole refurb thing was probably a lot safer before the advent of the "Hyuk! Hyuk! I'm gonna buy me the $300 card, OC it twice as fast as the $500 card, an' get me seven hunnert dollars of per-for-mance for my $300! Heehaw!" dumbass era. :roll:

Oh well, I'm taking my first foray into refurb land this week with two 6800NUs I'll be SLIing. You think I'll be gaming with them and running a LOT of benchmarks during my 15 day return period?

I do.

Yes, that's what they "say". There have been reports of Newegg refurbished items shipping with the RMA slip from the previous buyer. I've received cards with BIOS's that have obviously been flashed, and cards that completely dead on arrival.

It's painfully obvious that no one tests most of Neweggs refurbs. Newegg has a fabulous return policy...the downside is they sell untested consumer returns as "refurbs".

Actual refurbished items rarely are DOA, manufacturers test them much more carefully than "new" items.
 

Gamingphreek

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Originally posted by: sellmen
Newegg refurbs are not safe. They aren't even refurbished - they are customer returns which haven't even been tested. I have received refurbs from Newegg that don't work at all. Esentially, Newegg is letting you do the job of sorting out their returns and seeing which ones work.

If you get a card that works, you end up getting a great deal. Realize though that it is a risk.

Wrong. Companies are not allowed to just turn around and sell returned items. It would be called fraud. It is not painfully obvious about anything.

Additionally you can get an MSI NX6600GT for about $190 which is a very nice card.

-Kevin
 

sellmen

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Originally posted by: Gamingphreek
Originally posted by: sellmen
Newegg refurbs are not safe. They aren't even refurbished - they are customer returns which haven't even been tested. I have received refurbs from Newegg that don't work at all. Esentially, Newegg is letting you do the job of sorting out their returns and seeing which ones work.

If you get a card that works, you end up getting a great deal. Realize though that it is a risk.

Wrong. Companies are not allowed to just turn around and sell returned items. It would be called fraud. It is not painfully obvious about anything.

Additionally you can get an MSI NX6600GT for about $190 which is a very nice card.

-Kevin

Yes, it is painfully obvious. Provide some evidence if you want to back up your claim...I've seen enough of Neweggs "refurbs" to know that most aren't.

Legitmate refurbished products do not come dead on arrival very often...most manufacturers test their products.
 

Gamingphreek

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No it isn't. I have ordered multiple refurbs off of newegg and have had no problems. Please tell us what you have ordered. Also remember what i said before. They MUST test before reselling, it is not an option. If they do not it is fraud, and is therefore illegal. You have just had bad luck do not go giving companies a bad name that are perfectly fine.

-Kevin
 

sellmen

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Originally posted by: Gamingphreek
No it isn't. I have ordered multiple refurbs off of newegg and have had no problems. Please tell us what you have ordered. Also remember what i said before. They MUST test before reselling, it is not an option. If they do not it is fraud, and is therefore illegal. You have just had bad luck do not go giving companies a bad name that are perfectly fine.

-Kevin

I've ordered quite a few refurbs from them, mostly before they substantially raised their refurb prices within the last year.

First card - Ti4200 a few years ago - flat out dead on arrival
Second card - Radeon 9600 - worked
Third card and fourth cards - Radeon 9800

The third obviously had issues, there were wavy lines all over the screen as soon as I booted up. The fourth- dead on arrival.

I've had good luck with their refurb shuttle motherboards - they don't even look like refurbs.

Once I started receiving dead cards from them, I read up a bit on message boards. Many people reported getting items that didn't work at all, or items that still had the RMA slip of the previous buyer in the box . I don't know how much more clear that can be - a tested refurb will very rarely be non working, and should NEVER have an RMA slip with it...

If I had based my conclusion completely on my own experience that's one thing...but the number of complaints I've read online is significant.

Maybe they've cleaned up lately, I haven't ordered any more refurbs since my two non-working 9800's.
 

DJQuanta

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Man.... although there are pretty nice refurbs products available I think $185 is too much money if you could get either a MSI, Gigabyte, XFX or eVGA 6600 GT for less than $200 shipped.
 

fibes

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Originally posted by: DJQuanta
Man.... although there are pretty nice refurbs products available I think $185 is too much money if you could get either a MSI, Gigabyte, XFX or eVGA 6600 GT for less than $200 shipped.


I have seen refurbished 6600Gt cards as low as $165.00(AGP). That's $35.00 less than MSRP. Most resellers are pricing there 6600GT cards at 205.00-250.00.
 

hans030390

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Well, i am only buying the leadtek, cuz i've heard they are the best quality (not performers)...no argument...

also, newegg has a 15 day warranty...so if the card is dead, could i just send it back for a different one (assuming i would have to pay for something like shipping)?
 

hans030390

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bump

and the cards going for 175 now, the lowest priced refurb 6600GT agp now...and its known as the best quality, so thats good
 
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IMHO, a refurbished product should sell for no more than 60% of the new price and it should come with some sort of a return warranty. Using my formula, if a 6600gt goes for $200 new, then a refurb should be no more than $120.
 

nRollo

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Originally posted by: WhipperSnapper

IMHO, a refurbished product should sell for no more than 60% of the new price and it should come with some sort of a return warranty. Using my formula, if a 6600gt goes for $200 new, then a refurb should be no more than $120.

Wowee! If only you were in a position to set the prices somewhere....
 

comp101

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You're not saving enough money to make it worthwhile.

Plus I believe you might not get the full warranty as well.
 
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