Refurbished HP P930 19IN CRT MONITOR $147.37 Shipped

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Ornery

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Originally posted by: metalmania
It doesn't matter since this dealer is not the only one selling refurbished monitor.
Originally posted by: VanillaH
well by the time you get to hear from them the one and only left in stock might be long gone and OOS
What Accurate IT Services considers to be "refurbished" is a little different than the norm:
  • * - every unit offered for sale on this site is owned and prepared for sale by Accurate IT Services llc.
    Reconditioning is a multi stage process, which consists of

    • a. Initial testing
      b. Internal vacuum cleaning
      c. electronic repair (when applicable), some models have new (updated) high voltage and other components installed in order to insure reliable long term operation
      d. focus, color gain and convergence tuning
      e. exterior cleaning and detailing
      f. overnight burn-in test
I always considered refurbished to simply mean a unit that had been opened and returned to the retailer. Not something that's been repaired.
 

juggalojaS

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I hope BestOption's refurbs aren't like that.... I cant wait to get my monitor tho!!! How long did it take you guys? I live in PA and ordered last night.
 

metalmania

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According to HP, "refurbished HP products?excess or returned items fully inspected by HP-trained technicians after restoration to original factory specifications".

Ornery, so you are sure that the monitor you bought is a "opened and then returned" one, right? I think it's a matter of luck. What if the user have used it for 3 years and returned then?
 

konakona

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well i got a confirmation email today saying the monitor has been shipped. hopefully i will be able to get it early next week considering how fast others had theirs shipped to them
 

1reeves

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Received the monitor yesterday and hooked it up this AM. It is a great image! I already had an HP P930 and a MITSU 930 and this is a like new monitor.
Wish they had more I would buy a couple more for the future.
 

dpopiz

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Originally posted by: 1reeves
Received the monitor yesterday and hooked it up this AM. It is a great image! I already had an HP P930 and a MITSU 930 and this is a like new monitor.
Wish they had more I would buy a couple more for the future.

hey awesome so you have both the mitsu 930 and the hp 930!

can you please tell us all in detail how the two compare? do you have a very discriminating eye? are they identical?

I'm just really curious because I need to use it for graphic design and cad and I bet a bunch of other people would like to know as well.
 

ThisIsMatt

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Originally posted by: Ornery
Originally posted by: metalmania
It doesn't matter since this dealer is not the only one selling refurbished monitor.
Originally posted by: VanillaH
well by the time you get to hear from them the one and only left in stock might be long gone and OOS
What Accurate IT Services considers to be "refurbished" is a little different than the norm:
  • * - every unit offered for sale on this site is owned and prepared for sale by Accurate IT Services llc.
    Reconditioning is a multi stage process, which consists of

    • a. Initial testing
      b. Internal vacuum cleaning
      c. electronic repair (when applicable), some models have new (updated) high voltage and other components installed in order to insure reliable long term operation
      d. focus, color gain and convergence tuning
      e. exterior cleaning and detailing
      f. overnight burn-in test
I always considered refurbished to simply mean a unit that had been opened and returned to the retailer. Not something that's been repaired.
Well, your definition is incorrect and should never be followed.
 

jpeyton

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Originally posted by: GeneralGrievous
I received my monitor today. I like it. Works fine. Upon inspection there are extremely small closeup scratches on the top right of the fron of the case. But the image is great.

http://www.xioserv.com/Image/lordtyranus2.Picture.jpg

crappy but gives you an idea. If only it was all black.

Holy moly!

If ever there was an image to make someone want to throw out their current monitor...have them click that link.
 

Ornery

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Quality Refurbished Systems
  • All of Dell's new computers come with a 21-day total satisfaction policy. As a result of this policy, some computers are returned. While only a small fraction of this equipment is returned because of technical issues all systems are put through the production process again. They are taken apart and rebuilt to original factory specifications, then retested to ensure the same quality and award winning workmanship standards as new. We even use brand new boxes for packaging!
What is considered factory refurbished?
  • Most major retail superstores offer a 30-day money back guarantee on their products and there are those consumers that just simply take advantage of that. These items are returned to the manufacturer, inspected and repackaged like new.

    Items where the box or casing was damaged in shipment which are returned to the manufacturer.

    The item was returned to the manufacturer because of a slight defect. The part that was defective was replaced by the manufacturer, tested and then repackaged just like new.

    The item was returned because of a minor cosmetic blemish on the casing that was corrected.
    Demonstration units are also considered factory refurbished. These units are inspected, tested and repackaged.

    The box was simply opened. That?s it!

    Brand new overstocked items are also labeled factory refurbished.

What is Refurbished?

Where do refurbished computers come from?[/list]Refurbished computers are not used computers that have been in use over a long period of time. Most are cancelled orders and customer return units, others are overstocks, evaluation units, cosmetically blemished products and older discontinued products. All refurbished products are tested and if necessary, non-working components are replaced with working parts to bring the product up to fully functional condition [/list]What Qualifies As A Refurbished Item?
  • When most of us think of a refurbished item, we think of something that has been opened up, torn apart, and rebuilt, like an auto transmission rebuild, for instance. However, in the electronics world, it is not so obvious as to what the term "refurbished" actually means for the consumer.

    Basically, an audio or video component can be classified as refurbished if it meets ANY of the following criteria:

    Customer Return - Most major retailers have a 30-day return policy for their products and many consumers, for whatever reason, return products within that time period.

    Most of the time, if there is nothing wrong with the product, stores will just reduce the price and resell it as an open box special. However, if there is some sort of defect present in the product, many stores have agreements to return the product to the manufacturer were it is inspected and/or repaired, and then repackaged for sale as a refurbished item.
    Shipping Damage - Many times, packages can get damaged in shipping, whether due to mishandling, the elements, or other factors. In most cases the product in the package may be perfectly fine, but the retailer has the option to return the damaged boxes (who wants to put a damaged on box on the shelf?) to the manufacturer for full credit. The manufacturer, then, is obligated to inspect the products and repackage them in new boxes for sale. However, they cannot be sold as new products, so they are relabeled as refurbished units.

    Comestic Damage - Sometimes, for a variety of reasons, a product may have a scratch, dent, or other form of cosmetic damage that does not affect the performance of the unit. The manufacturer has two choices; to sell the unit with it cosmetic damage visible or fix the damage by placing the internal components into a new cabinet or casing. Either way, the product qualifies as refurbished, as the internal mechanisms that may be unaffected by the cosmetic damaged are still checked.

    Demonstration Units - Although, at the store level, most retailers sell their old demos off the floor, some manufacturers will take them back, inspect and/or repair them, if needed, and send them back out as refurbished units for sale. This may also apply to demo units used by the manufacturer at trade shows, returned by product reviewers, and internal office use.

    Defect During Production - In any assembly line production process, a specific component can show up as defective because a faulty processing chip, power supply, disc loading mechanism, or other factor. Most of the time, this is caught before the product leaves the factory, however, defects can show up after the product hits store shelves. As a result of customer returns, inoperative demos, and excessive product breakdowns within the warranty period of a specific element in the product, a manufacturer may "recall" a product from a specific batch or production run that exhibits the same defect. When this occurs, the manufacturer can repair all the defective units and send them back out to retailers as refurbished units for sale.

    The Box Was Merely Opened - Although, technically, there is no issue here other than the box was opened and was sent back to the manufacturer for repacking (or repacked by the retailer), the product is still classifies refurbished, because it was repacked, even though no refurbishing has occurred.

    Overstock Items - Most of the time, if a retailer has an overstock of a particular item they simply reduce the price and put the item on sale or clearance. However, sometimes, when a manufacturer introduces a new model, it will "collect" the remaining stock of the older models still on store shelves and redistribute them to specific retailers for quick sale. In this case, the item can be sold either as "a special purchase" or can be labeled as refurbished.

    What All Of The Above Means For The Consumer

    Basically, when an electronic product is shipped back to the manufacturer, for whatever reason, where it is inspected, restored to original specification (if needed), tested and/or repackaged for resale, the item can no longer sold as "new", but can only be sold as "refurbished".
 

Ornery

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Originally posted by: jpeyton
Originally posted by: GeneralGrievous
I received my monitor today. I like it. Works fine. Upon inspection there are extremely small closeup scratches on the top right of the fron of the case. But the image is great.

http://www.xioserv.com/Image/lordtyranus2.Picture.jpg

crappy but gives you an idea. If only it was all black.

Holy moly!

If ever there was an image to make someone want to throw out their current monitor...have them click that link.
I had a spiffy Canon for a short time myself. Lets just say it is currently a refurbished item.

Metadata for GeneralGrievous' image.
 

metalmania

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Quote from Dell doesn't mean HP refurbished one is a newly returned item. But seriously even if it's used or repaired, it's still a better choice than those crappy shadow mask monitors. At least my refurbished Viewsonic PF775 with SONY FD Trinitron is way better than Samsung Flat screen monitors.
 
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Holy moly!

If ever there was an image to make someone want to throw out their current monitor...have them click that link.
Haha. I'm trying to figure out how to use this camera, can't figure out why it is so blurry.
 

jpeyton

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Originally posted by: GeneralGrievous
Holy moly!

If ever there was an image to make someone want to throw out their current monitor...have them click that link.
Haha. I'm trying to figure out how to use this camera, can't figure out why it is so blurry.

How's the geometry on the monitor? Good straight out of the box or did you have to fiddle for a while?

Yeah if you could get any more pics, we're all dying for some.
 
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here's a better image

<a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://www.xioserv.com/Image/lordtyranus2.IMG_0092.JPG">
View from the other side.</a>

The geometry right out of the box is pretty bad though at least at 1600x1200. It does take fiddling with for a couple mins, but I hardly think thats anything major to hold against it.
 

Ornery

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Originally posted by: metalmania
Quote from Dell doesn't mean HP refurbished one is a newly returned item. But seriously even if it's used or repaired, it's still a better choice than those crappy shadow mask monitors. At least my refurbished Viewsonic PF775 with SONY FD Trinitron is way better than Samsung Flat screen monitors.
I supplied a link from HP as well.

I certainly don't want a monitor with a lot of hours on the tube, whether it's repaired or not.
 

NightCrawler

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Originally posted by: GeneralGrievous
here's a better image

<a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://www.xioserv.com/Image/lordtyranus2.IMG_0092.JPG">
View from the other side.</a>

The geometry right out of the box is pretty bad though at least at 1600x1200. It does take fiddling with for a couple mins, but I hardly think thats anything major to hold against it.


Those pics sell it !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

konakona

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Originally posted by: SSibalNom
once you go to 21" you wont go back to 19"!

dunno man, i couldnt justify the 2x price for going up mere 2 inches in VIS. better yet, considering how close we sit from the monitor 21-22'' looks like an overkill to me. you sure you didnt go back to your Gateway 19''? i like your username btw
 

konakona

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a stupid question : do these come with d-sub cables? i dont have any extra cables @ home, might have to get some if the there is no cable included in the package...
 

J1600B

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Originally posted by: GeneralGrievous
here's a better image

<a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://www.xioserv.com/Image/lordtyranus2.IMG_0092.JPG">
View from the other side.</a>

The geometry right out of the box is pretty bad though at least at 1600x1200. It does take fiddling with for a couple mins, but I hardly think thats anything major to hold against it.

Is that a bong on the left in that first pic?
 

dpopiz

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Originally posted by: J1600B
Originally posted by: GeneralGrievous
here's a better image

<a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://www.xioserv.com/Image/lordtyranus2.IMG_0092.JPG">
View from the other side.</a>

The geometry right out of the box is pretty bad though at least at 1600x1200. It does take fiddling with for a couple mins, but I hardly think thats anything major to hold against it.

Is that a bong on the left in that first pic?

it's a lava lamp.
 
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