Regarding GPS Computers

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SupaDupaCheez

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MMarks2: While I in no way want you (or anybody else) to get ripped off, and I sympathize with your problem, I think you need to calm down a bit. I was posting some info as I saw it first hand and through second hand sources. I wasn't saying that they were or were not ripping off people. I was simply adding some info (what little there is) that may or may not be useful to you or others who have problems with these people. I have no stake in this one way or the other (I haven't bought anything from them past/presently/or in the future) except to help my fellow AT'ers with a tough situation. The best way to deal with a problem is by thinking rationally and focusing your/our efforts on the problem itself (not the messengers). I sincerely hope this is resolved in a satisfactory manner. GPS seems to have a track record of this type of behavior (which is bad) but also seem to be willing to refund money when needed (which is VERY good). Even if it takes a LONG time to get your money at least you will get it back.

Good luck in the struggle for cheap prices!

SDC
 

GermyBoy

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<< Are we still talking about this company? This is the biggest JOKE I have ever seen. The thing I don't understand is why this guy hasnt been arrested yet. He should be in Jail with all this bad business. Don't you all think the same. Has any one of you received a laptop? >>



Althought they are immoral and unethical, they don't belong in jail. Leave that for the rapists and murderers. If we sent everyone to jail who snuffed us, we would have to go through maximum security to shop at such places as best buy, compusa, staples, gateway and dell.

Important information regarding hot deasl for those who want to take them...take a chance with $5, not with $500. If a company has had hundreds of complaints, don't be foolish enough to order from them as well, or else you'll be having complaints as well. You're not any more special than the last fellow that got screwed by a "legitimate" businessman trying to scam the world.

Why is this thread still around I ask?

It should be locked.
 

q2261

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Maybe once they get the order, they start looking to steal the lappy at some airport?

I probably donno what im talkin about, but who does about these guys?
 

HuzorDaddy

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From the Toledo Blade the other day:
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Toledo BBB among agencies flooded with complaints about computer site

By GARY T. PAKULSKI
BLADE BUSINESS WRITER

VERMILION, Ohio - When GPS Computer Services, Ltd., here began advertising laptop computers at the low price of $500 on its web site last year, orders poured in from around the country.

But now, the Toledo area Better Business Bureau, Ohio Attorney General, and Chamber of Commerce in this 12,000-resident Lake Erie resort community are flooded with complaints from angry customers saying they?re sick of waiting for merchandise.

"I feel their pain and I?m trying to help them out," replied Terrance Holmes, GPS?s 37-year-old founder and chief executive.

He was unprepared for the huge response to the offer, he conceded. A bank account holds $169,000 collected from customer credit cards for laptops and other computer equipment.

But the money is controlled by an online payment service, which, because of complaints from anxious buyers, will issue refunds to them but no money to the company to buy computers to fill orders, Mr. Holmes said.

"We have closed the account for excessive consumer complaints for non-delivery or delayed delivery and are holding the funds to process existing and expected consumer refund requests," said Vince Sollitto, spokesman for PayPal, Inc., of Palo Alto, Calif.

About 500 orders, dating to November, remain unfilled, the GPS chief conceded.

Officials at the BBB in Toledo are frustrated by the problems. "We?ve received about 200 complaints," said Jan Muir, dispute resolution specialist. "Most end up being resolved with a refund or delivery of the merchandise. But they keep rolling in."

The GPS chief met in December in Columbus with an aide to Attorney General Betty Montgomery. Mr. Holmes said he has been working with the agency to resolve complaints. Ohio?s deceptive sales practices act requires mail-order firms to deliver orders within eight weeks or offer the customer a refund. Firms that violate the law can be fined and are subject to other civil penalties.

Stephanie Beougher, a spokesman for the attorney general, said agency policy prevented her from saying whether an investigation is under way. She confirmed, however, that GPS customers have filed 58 complaints, including 20 since Jan. 1.

The firm has dropped the online payment service, PayPal. GPS now bills customer credit cards directly. But the card isn?t billed until five days before delivery, eliminating a big source of complaints, Mr. Holmes said. PayPal billed when the order was placed, he said.

Price increases have helped reduce problems. The cheapest laptop advertised on the web site now is $725.

Mr. Holmes described himself as a computer systems specialist who was unprepared for the rapid growth experienced by his firm when he went from a firm offering computer classes to an Internet retailer a year ago. Sales soared from $200,000 in 2000 to $2.5 million in 2001. "I was caught off guard," he said.
 

hans007

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sound kinda like this store i bought a laptop from on ebay. i got an HP zu1155 from them fofr $925 + $50 shipped new. anyways.. msrp is $1499 - $100 rebate. i looked around and that was about as cheap as it got. so i pay using c2it and its been 2 weeks but i've been emailing the guy. he's like some sort of virtual store, and they just order stuff as they go from order fullfillment . anyways his order fullfillment got totally fuxored this week.


so after talking to the guy he finally just went and bought a laptop for me at jandr.com (which to my surprise had the one i wanted for $1099 -$100 rebate) and had it sent to his own house, and mailed it to me. so he lost money to send me my laptop which was pretty cool
 

BooneRebel

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<< sound kinda like this store i bought a laptop from on ebay. i got an HP zu1155 from them fofr $925 + $50 shipped new. anyways.. msrp is $1499 - $100 rebate. i looked around and that was about as cheap as it got. so i pay using c2it and its been 2 weeks but i've been emailing the guy. he's like some sort of virtual store, and they just order stuff as they go from order fullfillment . anyways his order fullfillment got totally fuxored this week.


so after talking to the guy he finally just went and bought a laptop for me at jandr.com (which to my surprise had the one i wanted for $1099 -$100 rebate) and had it sent to his own house, and mailed it to me. so he lost money to send me my laptop which was pretty cool
>>



That does sound exactly what GPS is doing. But you're fooling yourself if you believe that he's experiencing technical problems, fulfillment issues, whatever; and is just a good guy for filling your order. Both of these setups have cash in hand to fill orders but don't; collect interest on the money and -occassionally- fill an order, refunding money to those that create a big enough stink. It's a sorry business.

Read Terry's email in the top post. "We were using PayPal, that is no longer the case." He doesn't mention that PayPal cancelled his account due to consumer complaints. With nearly a 100 issues outstanding with the BBB, I can't imagine why anyone would be willing to part with their money & place yet another order with him. Even by charging your account 5 or 7 days before shipping seems pretty shady to me. Any reputable business will wait until they actually -ship- an item before charging you.
 

MaDHaVoK

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We got some kid up here (UB), took him 2 months to get his Sony Vaio, and if it takes 2 months to get it at $525 then its well worth the wait... By the way his came factory sealed in a brand new box......... you get what you pay for, don't complain.
 

Fritzo

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<< Sounds like they've changed their method of charging customers which is a good thing. But they still don't explain why it takes them soooooooooooooo long to fill orders...inquiring minds want to know!!!

No more VAIO laptop on their website either...
>>




It takes so long because his boys have to go out and look for open stock trucks parked in back of Best Buy or Circuit City to get inventory
 

HuzorDaddy

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It's gonna get worse before it gets better...

Here's the latest:
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Receiver sought for Vermilion firm

FROM BLADE STAFF AND WIRE REPORTS

VERMILION, Ohio - Ohio Attorney General Betty Montgomery is seeking the appointment of a receiver to take over a firm here which sells computers over the Internet.

GPS Computer Services Ltd. violated state sales practices laws by failing to deliver merchandise in a timely manner, the attorney general said in a lawsuit filed yesterday in Lorain County Common Pleas Court. Her office, along with the Better Business Bureau in Toledo and Vermilion Chamber of Commerce, were flooded with complaints from customers who waited up to two months for merchandise for which they paid.

The lawsuit seeks a $25,000 civil penalty.

Owner Terrance Holmes couldn't be reached for comment yesterday, but told The Blade Monday that he was attempting to resolve complaints.
 

jeepguy100

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Mods, please lock this thread.

This is not now nor was this ever a hot deal. This should be in the Brag and Moan section. I do feel sorry for all the saps that fell for this after all the warnings that they recieved. But then again I have to ask myself "Are people really this gullible for them to fall for this?" And then it is answered because the GPS thread rises ot of the ashes AGAIN... I plead that this thread never appears again.

Thank you.
 
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