I have to think that if we traveled back in time to just before launch, and told the Xbox team how well it had sold by 2016, they would be thrilled... unless we also told them about PS4 sales.
Both consoles are still outselling their preceding generation by a fair amount, right? Who cares. They're BOTH successful. They both work. I own both for a reason, tbh.
Meh, like I said, Xbox has Forza. What does Sony have?
Try to...
And that's a big problem all by itself.
Forza Halo and Gears is ALL it has. Microsoft is just a 3 trick pony releasing the same 3 games over and over and over again and the too cool for skool 'nadebros eat it up like it's something to brag about that Sony and Nintendo don't have.
It's like the dumbass who think's he's cool riding around in slammed hellaflush murdered out G37. He actually thinks hes a badass but in reality hes the only one not laughing at what a retard he is.
Also, in before the usual AT suspects respond to defend their favorite 'nadebro box.
Also I have like 4 Xbox One consoles (Day One, white MC, Halo 5, and Elite) and all whopping 22 physical exclusives that have released in the past what 2-3 years?
4 of them are Forza (Forza 5, Forza 5 GOTY, Forza Horizon 2, and Forza 6)
2 of them are Halo, one of which is a collection of old games (MCC and 5)
1 of them is a Gears remaster from almost a decade ago
3 more at least are GOTY remakes of previous day one games (Dead Rising, Ryse, Forza 5. etc)
3 of them are 360 ports of filler games that were only cross released to pad the launch title count (Disney Fantasia, Zoo Tycoon, Shape Up)
1 is another Halo/Gears/CoD 'nadebro shooter (Titanfall)
2 are MS pretending to have non shooter/sports genres but are really just bragging they have Rare by remaking old content(Killer Instinct, Rare Replay)
1 is a Kinect Sports for a dead periphreal that shows what lame shit MS is REALLY having Rare doing these days
1 is State of Decay not a bad game but a XBO port of a 360 game
A couple other oddballs light Fighter Within and ScreamRide.
I'm not counting Rise of the Tomb Raider because it will be on PS4 later this year where it will likely break 1 mil units on launch.
That leaves only 2 legit notable decent interesting fresh non typical MS games in 3 years that aren't Halo, Forza, Gears, or resurrected past content:
Sunset Overdrive and Project Spark.
This is a worse library than the Wii U that everyone loves to hate on.
Think about that for a bit before responding (not that it will matter to someone hellbent on getting butthurt).
The last two releases for XBO were Sept and Oct 2015... and they were... SURPRISE...yet another Halo 5 and Forza 6...
Scalebound, Crackdown, Sea of Thieves, Recore, Gears of War 4, Fable Legends, Phantom Dust, Halo Wars 2, and Quantum Break are on my upcoming list, am I missing anything? Some of these like Phantom Dust might not even happen and the rest don't even have release dates yet that I'm aware of.
So Halo 5 and Forza 6 is all that we've seen on XBO since Sept/Oct 2015.
Meanwhile since that same time Wii U had Xenoblade Chronicles X, Rodea the Sky Soldier, Yoshi's Woolly World, Animal Crossing amiibo Festival, Mario Tennis Ultra Smash, Devil's Third,
and will additionally see before another XBox One exclusive launches,
Twilight Princess HD, Pokken Tournament, and Star Fox Zero, in addition to a Bayonetta 2 re-release (not sure why but I welcome it to fuck over the resellers since the original release is out of print).
Doing the same comparison for PS4 would be more difficult since it's my multiplat console of choice, I'd have to sort through all the shovelware, indy physical releases, multiplat games, etc but I don't recall any huge PS4 exclusive hits releasing the past couple months.
Notable entries that I can remember, cutting off at at Sept 1, '15, are Megadimension Neptunia VII, Sword Art Online, Nitroplus Blasterz, Gravity Rush, Tiny Troopers, Uncharted Collection, Tales of Zestiria, Until Dawn, Metal Gear Solid V (multi plat but is traditionally a Playstation IP), One Piece Pirate Warriors, and ???
Never fear though, there will probably be a Halo 6 and Forza 7 to fill the gap between last September and the next XBO games in the upcoming list to get a release date...no not enough time so we should see a Halo 5 GOTY and Forza 6 GOTY announced any week now... we are due for another "neener neener neener we have Rare even though they are a mere shell of their former self and we don't let them do anything anyway" announcement as well.
Meh, like I said, Xbox has Forza. What does Sony have?
Try to...
Twice the console sales, for one...
I know, I said at the start there were no notable real PS4 releases before I listed recent exclusives.
As far as the recurrent general argument against Wii U games not having online, by "key online functionality" I take that to mean "no all important competitive versus deathmatch mode to pwn n00bs and epeen my friends" mode which not having it is one of the most attractive things about Wii U games IMO. Not sure why a game like Zelda or Xenoblade needs a friggin deathmatch mode, that's stupid. Go play Halo or Call of Duty if that's so important.
Competitive versus mode does NOT have to be shoveled down the throat of every game that comes out, especially games like JRPGs that are BY DESIGN SINGLE PLAYER. I hate that even Xenoblade Chronicles X has what feels like last minute force mandatory online play (you are required to select a Squad online every time you start the game) just for the sake of saying "look we have a "modern" Wii U game with online support!
Even achievements and trophies and gamer scores and all that are just another form of online internet testosterone competition machismo to keep tabs on who's ahead of who in what game and even when they are offline single player trophies they are all just dumb stupid human pet tricks like "ride 10,000 steps on a chocobo" or "fall off the highest building" that are annoying for people who like to 100% all games they play.
I could do without all that nonsense honestly, there is way too much completely unnecessary competition and aggression and chest thumping and dick comparing in the world as is. I miss solo offline games that weren't about frags or K/D or pwning n00bs. Nintendo still delivers that experience.
That is a HUGE plus for Nintendo IMO.
And if your key online functionality is social media, well I don't have a twitter or facebook account by choice because I don't have a compulsive need to update the world with my personal life every 3 seconds, so why would I give half a fuck if a video game would allow me, or god forbid, FORCE me to do it? Oh hi guys I'm taking a shit now, stay tuned for the unboxing video?
lol @ thinking online functionality == death match only.
the best thing that has happened to this gen for me is that killer instinct made rollback code mainstream in fighting games. then you had mkx come out with complete shit input delay based netcode. then you had sf5 announcing they are doing rollback code for online and the beta has proven to be pretty damn good, almost as good as killer instinct. then you have mkx now completely rewriting their netcode to use rollback and it's currently in beta now.
thanks to killer instinct fighting games are now making rollback code the new standard. now that is what i consider "key online functionality" in a niche genre and something that has revolutionized online gaming for fighters.
Nope, you're missing the point entirely.
Smash has online, but no voice chat, and no rankings. So, you've basically just got a harder A.I. opponent. There's none of the friendly banter, no means of demanding a rematch with a friend, no trash talk, no sense of accomplishment because you have no idea if you're beating someone good or bad without rankings. Kart has rankings, but it's similarly devoid of chat. My sister was playing with a coworker and that coworker's husband in Kart online, and they couldn't talk or have fun with each other. That's incredibly lame, no question.
However, when I complain about Nintendo's lack of networking, it's got every bit as much to do with co-op as competitive play. I want to be able to play Yoshi's Woolly World and New Super Mario Bros. U online with my friends and family. I don't want to be walled off from those I don't live near because Nintendo can't grasp the Internet well. I mean, it's pretty bad that when I think of playing a game like Smash or Kart online with a friend, I feel I need to set up my XB1 as well, so we can use its Party Chat to supplement Nintendo's shortcomings. Then you have Super Mario Maker, which totally lacks multiplayer AT all. Splatoon has no chat, and Mario Party and Tennis have no online (though I didn't like Splatoon and no one likes the latest MP or MT it seems).
Sorry some of us have friends outside of our neighborhoods we want to connect with. Damn, you're an elitist, condescending jerk. Your argument is "Nintendo doesn't need to develop its technology because I don't use it." By your logic, I shouldn't support having consoles push 1080p graphics because I have a 720p TV.
How is a desire to beat canned AI better than wanting to try to test your ability to beat actual people?
Keep taking things to the extreme and making stupid, unrelated stuff up, though. I want to play Mario Kart against friends and family, so I'm calling for Ocarina of Time rankings? What the hell are you even trying to say? It's absurd if you're drunk, worse if you're sober.
I find it absolutely, gut-hurting laughable that you're spewing some anti-online trash about how someone's pathetic for playing a game against an anonymous person on the Internet (even before we address the fact that you're making things up about my statements when my specific statements involved friends and family, not strangers), yet you're talking up the intellectual superiority of beating a non-entity with less challenge and more anonymity behind its existence. Oh, beating my friends in Mario Kart is childish and stupid, but beating the hardware in the box is some triumphant accomplishment when it's 10 times easier?
I really can't stress enough how hypocritical and baffling your statements are. I mean, you're trying to talk down to people online with childish name calling like "dick swinging?" Please, enlighten, King of Games, as to how your playing a game offline against a piece of silicon is intellectually superior and more mature, versus challenging myself to beat tougher challenges. I need your guidance and approval like I need a tumor and hemorrhoids.
Back to the whole the satisfaction of "beating" dumb silicon vs "beating" other players? I do not care. I want a reliable way to get what I want eventually without another asshole human being able to control the outcome and potentially interfere with me getting what I want. I'd rather kill a AI monster 100 times until it drops rather than deal with the randomness of letting other human beings potentially control the outcome of my game experience or have the ability to grief me and prevent me from attaining my in game goals. I avoid online gaming outside of PvE raiding and coop games explicitly for this purpose.
Because your main focus is on "completing" the game. That's all good and well, but in many games, multiplayer adds a substantial replay ability factor. As you know, I primarily play strategy games. Many strategy games reach a point where you can win 100% of the time on the highest difficulty by following a set gameplay. Playing against humans adds variety. They will try tactics the computer never would. It's not necessarily about being the best, it's about finding a challenge. I don't mind losing at a strategy game as it means I had a challenge. It just doesn't happen much. LOL.
That said, I completely agree about shoehorning online features into games that have no use for them. I literally laughed out loud the first time I started watching Netflix on the XBOne and achievements started popping up. That's seriously just silly.
Fallout 4, single player game, people online whining about a certain perk being "OP" and now it's being patched automatically, because online support. There is no such thing as "OP" in a single player game that affects no one else, so **** off.
Or the developer wanted the game to be played as designed...or players wanted it to play as designed. But hey, the game should NEVER be updated. Left in a balancing issue, NEVER fix it!
Or no. How about the developers fix the results of incomplete testing.
Fighting games are multi player vs by design so yeah this is a good thing.
Your first sentence mocks me for claiming that online functionality == death match only, and your counter example is a 1 on 1 competitive fighting game genre? I'm confused. I know there isn't an online coop story mode because rollback code and accuracy wouldn't be as much a concern here where nobody has their life's reputation on the line when crying foul about a hit that did or didn't go through when they win or lose a .... versus match.
No online play is a common complaint with Nintendo games, specifically with a majority of their games specifically being a single player off line couch experience. I could see an argument with something like Smash not having online play.
Their vs oriented games like Splatoon and Smash have online play. What's missing? Aww is there not a publicly visible ladder ranking or something for the world to see relative levels of badassery?
I'm just wondering... when I'm playing Xenoblade Chronicles or Zelda or Super Mario 3D World or Fire Emblem or Kirby or Bravely Default what online play could I possibly be missing out on that is so vital that it's "omg ruining Nintendo for not being modern"? Trophies and sharing my progress? For what purpose other than serving as a point of comparison to someone else who gives a rats ass?
The two primary uses of online play in games are competition and integrating gaming habits with social media addictions, neither of which interest me or Nintendo's core target audience in any way. I'd love some more examples of co-op play, but co-op isn't very popular with online players, nowhere near versus. Even when you have "co-op", in most games its team vs team with co-op in your team, again competition oriented.
For me it's relaxing to escape this and just enjoy a single player game at my own pace without everything being about competition and how I rank vs someone else. There's enough of that shit just stepping outside my door on a daily basis.
Fighting games are multi player vs by design so yeah this is a good thing.
Your first sentence mocks me for claiming that online functionality == death match only, and your counter example is a 1 on 1 competitive fighting game genre? I'm confused. I know there isn't an online coop story mode because rollback code and accuracy wouldn't be as much a concern here where nobody has their life's reputation on the line when crying foul about a hit that did or didn't go through when they win or lose a .... versus match.
No online play is a common complaint with Nintendo games, specifically with a majority of their games specifically being a single player off line couch experience. I could see an argument with something like Smash not having online play.
Their vs oriented games like Splatoon and Smash have online play. What's missing? Aww is there not a publicly visible ladder ranking or something for the world to see relative levels of badassery?
I'm just wondering... when I'm playing Xenoblade Chronicles or Zelda or Super Mario 3D World or Fire Emblem or Kirby or Bravely Default what online play could I possibly be missing out on that is so vital that it's "omg ruining Nintendo for not being modern"? Trophies and sharing my progress? For what purpose other than serving as a point of comparison to someone else who gives a rats ass?
The two primary uses of online play in games are competition and integrating gaming habits with social media addictions, neither of which interest me or Nintendo's core target audience in any way. I'd love some more examples of co-op play, but co-op isn't very popular with online players, nowhere near versus. Even when you have "co-op", in most games its team vs team with co-op in your team, again competition oriented.
For me it's relaxing to escape this and just enjoy a single player game at my own pace without everything being about competition and how I rank vs someone else. There's enough of that just stepping outside my door on a daily basis.