Religion

[CKent]

Originally posted by: theblackbox

Originally posted by: CKent
Wow, what fucked up red bible-belt state do you live in? Your author profile doesn't list it. Christ, I wish we had let those retards secede...

nice. what fucked up blue state do you live in?

I'm not too scared to list it in my profile, but I suppose clicking the smiley face means you're going to hell :laugh:

 

[Jeff7]

Originally posted by: DrPizza
As much as that's repeated, I don't think a lot of people really are that familiar with how "religious" folks like Ben Franklin & Thomas Jefferson actually were.

And if there is talk of "creators" and such, maybe it was done the way "God bless America" is said now at the end of speeches - just something else to say "OMGLOOK AT ME! I'm like, totally a God person, vote for me!!!!"

Like a goddamn nervous tic, as George Carlin put it.

Anyways, I thought this video was appropriate about now...
here

God: Serious business.

 

[theblackbox]

Originally posted by: CKent

Originally posted by: theblackbox

Originally posted by: CKent
Wow, what fucked up red bible-belt state do you live in? Your author profile doesn't list it. Christ, I wish we had let those retards secede...

nice. what fucked up blue state do you live in?

I'm not too scared to list it in my profile, but I suppose clicking the smiley face means you're going to hell :laugh:

whats scared have to do with anything. for you i went in and turned on my profile. so will i got to hell if i don't believe in it?

 

[Mr. Lennon]

Originally posted by: CKent
Wow, what fucked up red bible-belt state do you live in? Your author profile doesn't list it. Christ, I wish we had let those retards secede...

California...Orange County has a lot of neocons and bible thumpers.

 

[theblackbox]

Originally posted by: Zeppelin2282

Originally posted by: CKent
Wow, what fucked up red bible-belt state do you live in? Your author profile doesn't list it. Christ, I wish we had let those retards secede...

California...Orange County has a lot of neocons and bible thumpers.

i hope that is sarcasm, because i looked real hard and i couldn't find them. all my friends don't qualify as either. but, i guess orange county is pretty big.

 

[Howard]

Originally posted by: ICRS

Originally posted by: TehMac
Meh, I think sometimes family peeps can be pretty annoying when it comes to religion. The thing is that religion is such a matter of intense pride, its so easy to get personal about it. The whole thing is very intimate.

I don't think she's spewing hate, she probably didn't word it the right way, and her attitude certainly isn't very encouraging.

Originally posted by: ICRS
God belief is a mental illness. It is a delusion. It is a disease on society. It spreads and everywhere it spreads it kills. It should never be tolerated. It should be cleansed from society and its followers showed by removed.

Just like the Jews, right?

Jews who worship a god are a disease on society and should be wiped out.


Take 2 weeks off for that statement. You've done this before and if you do it again, next time will be longer than two weeks.


esquared
Anandtech Senior Moderator

Man, sometimes I think mods have way too much patience on some things and not enough for others (mainly when I'm the one who done bad).

If it were up to me ICRS would've been gone long ago. Good thing I'm not a mod - or is it?

 

[zinfamous]

Originally posted by: lifeobry
Religion isn't the problem. Stupid people are. I've known several deeply religious people that I also highly respected for their intellects. I will say though that people like that are few and far between unfortunately...

It's as simple as this, really. But people with no exposure to this reality will never accept it.

shame.

 

[zinfamous]

Originally posted by: BeauJangles

Originally posted by: Pacfanweb

Originally posted by: PieIsAwesome

Originally posted by: Pacfanweb
I'm not much on going to church, but I disagree that religion is bad and we need to get away from it.

In fact, the farther away we have gotten from it, the worse things are getting. This isn't even debatable...it's like the sun rising in the East. A fact. The USA was founded on Christianity and its beliefs. That's what our laws are based on. It got us this far, and it'll get us a lot farther.

That said, my personal opinion is, my religion or lack of, is my business and not anyone else's. Including my family's.

Did you know that as the number of pirates has decreased global warming has increased? A Fact.

Really? I'd say that in light of current events, the number of pirates has been increasing steadily for the last decade.

And the "kicking religion out of every facet of life" kick has only been going on for the last 30 years or so...not surprisingly, during the exact same time that the behavior of Americans in general has gone downhill.
Just look at discipline problems in schools they have now, compared to just 20 years ago...it's not even comparable, really. Far more problems now.
Sure, it does go deeper than just people not being as religious as they used to be, but that IS a definite factor.

Correlation is not causation, which is what PieIsAwesome was trying to tell you.

You can't say something is a definite factor, because you really have no idea. You just see X increasing and Y decreasing and believe that they must somehow be related. Personally, I don't see really see too much correlation between the values we hold sacred in this country or the morals we rely on every day and christianity. There have been a few studies that point to morality being pretty universal and not particularly associated with one brand of religion.

Yes, the "child-centered" method of family-raising replacing the older method of "child as part of family" is far more likely correlated to this degradation in school discipline that Pacfan opines about.

 

[DangerAardvark]

Originally posted by: Pacfanweb
I'm not much on going to church, but I disagree that religion is bad and we need to get away from it.

In fact, the farther away we have gotten from it, the worse things are getting. This isn't even debatable...it's like the sun rising in the East. A fact. The USA was founded on Christianity and its beliefs. That's what our laws are based on. It got us this far, and it'll get us a lot farther.

That said, my personal opinion is, my religion or lack of, is my business and not anyone else's. Including my family's.

The only thing you got right in that paragraph is that the sun does indeed rise in the East.

 

[zinfamous]

Originally posted by: theblackbox

Originally posted by: CKent
Wow, what fucked up red bible-belt state do you live in? Your author profile doesn't list it. Christ, I wish we had let those retards secede...

nice. what fucked up blue state do you live in?

OMG! you live in a newly-dubbed Blue State! How will you ever cope?????

 

[Mr. Lennon]

Originally posted by: DangerAardvark

Originally posted by: Pacfanweb
I'm not much on going to church, but I disagree that religion is bad and we need to get away from it.

In fact, the farther away we have gotten from it, the worse things are getting. This isn't even debatable...it's like the sun rising in the East. A fact. The USA was founded on Christianity and its beliefs. That's what our laws are based on. It got us this far, and it'll get us a lot farther.

That said, my personal opinion is, my religion or lack of, is my business and not anyone else's. Including my family's.

The only thing you got right in that paragraph is that the sun does indeed rise in the East.

LOL

 

[CKent]

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[xSauronx]

Originally posted by: moshquerade
Your last comment to them made you sound just as bad as they are.

im goin with this.

i used to be bitter about it all, too. not worth the trouble. i just try to avoid religious conversation or conflict

 

[meltdown75]

religion threads for the Monday morning fail. i'd rather hear about your thanksgiving day feast.

pics of Aunt / Mom?

 

[AnonymouseUser]

Originally posted by: zinfamous

Originally posted by: lifeobry
Religion isn't the problem. Stupid people are. I've known several deeply religious people that I also highly respected for their intellects. I will say though that people like that are few and far between unfortunately...

It's as simple as this, really. But people with no exposure to this reality will never accept it.

shame.

I would argue that religion makes people stupid (with few exceptions), therefore religion is the problem.

 

[meltdown75]

i would argue that trolls are the problem.

 

[Kirby]

Originally posted by: meltdown75
i would argue that trolls are the problem.

I would argue that Danes are the problem.

 

[PottedMeat]

Originally posted by: nkgreen

Originally posted by: meltdown75
i would argue that trolls are the problem.

I would argue that Danes are the problem.

What about Belgians?

 

[JulesMaximus]

Originally posted by: ironwing
christian should be capitalized. Other than that, I can't help you, I'm going to hell.

fixed that for ya

 

[Kirby]

Originally posted by: PottedMeat

Originally posted by: nkgreen

Originally posted by: meltdown75
i would argue that trolls are the problem.

I would argue that Danes are the problem.

What about Belgians?

Their waffles and beer make up for their penile shortcomings.

 

[PottedMeat]

Originally posted by: nkgreen

Originally posted by: PottedMeat

Originally posted by: nkgreen

Originally posted by: meltdown75
i would argue that trolls are the problem.

I would argue that Danes are the problem.

What about Belgians?

Their waffles and beer make up for their penile shortcomings.

But Danes have cookies and ham! However, the beer part makes Belgians > Danes.

 

[Kirby]

Originally posted by: PottedMeat
But Danes have cookies and ham! However, the beer part makes Belgians > Danes.

s and swine do not excuse a people for the invention of clogs.

 

[DisgruntledVirus]

Originally posted by: DangerAardvark

Originally posted by: Pacfanweb
I'm not much on going to church, but I disagree that religion is bad and we need to get away from it.

In fact, the farther away we have gotten from it, the worse things are getting. This isn't even debatable...it's like the sun rising in the East. A fact. The USA was founded on Christianity and its beliefs. That's what our laws are based on. It got us this far, and it'll get us a lot farther.

That said, my personal opinion is, my religion or lack of, is my business and not anyone else's. Including my family's.

The only thing you got right in that paragraph is that the sun does indeed rise in the East.

Agree.

This whole religion bs just screams of logical fallacies. Almost every logical fallacy listed religion (and not just one religion but all of them) does. This screams "lie" to me, because of it.

The way I look at it is this. If I don't believe, live my life to the fullest, be "good" human, and think critically about religion then when I die if God exists He would accept my apology that I was wrong then let me in to Heaven.

If OTOH He doesn't want to accept my apology that based upon my critical thinking and life experiences then I would regret nothing, because I refuse to pay for "original sin" that I didn't commit. If God sends me to Hell, because my rational thoughts wanted evidence of His existence then so be it. I am okay with that. I believe in the scientific method, and I want proof. Some people just see natures beauty as proof of God, but I see it as proof that lifeforms grow to suit their enviornment (which is proof of evolution).

Anything that can't be explained is "proof of God". If it can't be explained by science, then it proves God does according to religious people. So what happened to the Earth-centric universe? We locked up the guy who published a book, and ex-communicated him for heretical views. What happened to Earth was created in 6 days stuff? It's not really days, it's 6 "Periods". What happened to when the Earth was only a few thousand years old? Well looks like they were short by a year or two (that was exaggeration btw if your sarcasm meter is broken). What happened to every other thing that when science has evidence of being true and *could* be conflicting to religious beliefs, religion tends to say it's the work of the Devil and isn't true. After some time though, religious leaders "revise" the "meaning" of religious texts because they realize they don't have proof otherwise.

Religion and Science could co-exist, unfortunately both sides tend to attack one another and say they can't co-exist. Religion usually is the one commiting the attacks, but not always. Religion just screams "this is real, if you don't believe it (or what I believe) you are going to Hell/jail/ex-communicated/etc", to intimidate and scare people to believe something.

 

[XxPrOdiGyxX]

I am Catholic and I don't understand these types of people. God is the only one who can judge and yet they pass judgment on his behalf and already condemn you to Hell. I don't understand how they can't see in the arrogance in presuming what God will do.

 

[sourceninja]

Originally posted by: Pacfanweb

Originally posted by: PieIsAwesome

Originally posted by: Pacfanweb
I'm not much on going to church, but I disagree that religion is bad and we need to get away from it.

In fact, the farther away we have gotten from it, the worse things are getting. This isn't even debatable...it's like the sun rising in the East. A fact. The USA was founded on Christianity and its beliefs. That's what our laws are based on. It got us this far, and it'll get us a lot farther.

That said, my personal opinion is, my religion or lack of, is my business and not anyone else's. Including my family's.

Did you know that as the number of pirates has decreased global warming has increased? A Fact.

Really? I'd say that in light of current events, the number of pirates has been increasing steadily for the last decade.

And the "kicking religion out of every facet of life" kick has only been going on for the last 30 years or so...not surprisingly, during the exact same time that the behavior of Americans in general has gone downhill.
Just look at discipline problems in schools they have now, compared to just 20 years ago...it's not even comparable, really. Far more problems now.
Sure, it does go deeper than just people not being as religious as they used to be, but that IS a definite factor.

If we suddenly had proof that god was all a lie and a myth, would you suppress this truth so that children would do well in schools?

You should only believe in god if he is real, not becuase of any other social benefits. That is hypocrisy.