Religions link to going insane

[JumBie]

This is just an open discussion for everyone to chime in and give their 2 cents. I just cant help but notice all the people who commit terrible crimes all the while talking about god, and religion. For instance that lady who drove her van into the ocean trying to kill her 3 children, she was heard saying random religious things as she walked out of the van. Other killers speak as if they were told by god to do these things. Are they all schizophrenic? or what is it that compels these people to do such horrible things.

 

[raildogg]

This is just an open discussion for everyone to chime in and give their 2 cents. I just cant help but notice all the people who commit terrible crimes all the while talking about god, and religion. For instance that lady who drove her van into the ocean trying to kill her 3 children, she was heard saying random religious things as she walked out of the van. Other killers speak as if they were told by god to do these things. Are they all schizophrenic? or what is it that compels these people to do such horrible things.

They talk about God and love yet the life they live is totally the opposite. They want to believe their illusions, they false concepts. They are living a life of lies - as most of us do. We go to church for a couple of hours a week and think that we're good people. Yet, during the rest of the week we are wicked human beings - as most of us are. So religion is another failed institution that man has come up with. It sounds great but the reality is that there is no religion in this world. If there were, the world wouldn't be in such a state as it is today.

 

[Lean L]

Religions*

Spell check peeps..

 

[mizzou]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rCzaIcN0NI

 

[disappoint]

Nah they're not all schizophrenic. Delusional mostly. Though you can't generalize, or stereotype. They are all in it for different reasons. For all we know there may be lots of con artists who don't believe a word they spew and just do it for money, power over others or some other reason.

The stereotypical religious nut is usually delusional, and lacks the critical thinking and reasoning ability because they simply know not what they do. Jesus may have wanted to forgive them for that 2000+ years ago but I think if he were around today he would probably rebuke those types of folks and tell them to get a grip on reality already.

 

[mizzou]

There is no need to discuss religions, what you need to discuss is mental illness. The mentally ill in all religions are the ones we need to worry about.

 

[sandorski]

I don't think Religion makes people insane, but I think Insane people might be compelled to become Religious. Possibly due to trying to make sense of their thoughts or maybe out of fear of what they see happening to them.

 

[mizzou]

I don't think Religion makes people insane, but I think Insane people might be compelled to become Religious. Possibly due to trying to make sense of their thoughts or maybe out of fear of what they see happening to them.

makes sense...religion is all about fighting demons, fighting the unknown, and becoming saved.

those who are mentally ill can feel trapped and under someone elses control. Frequently losing grip of their own minds....letting the collective church thought have some grasp could have some psychological benefits.

 

[GagHalfrunt]

The really scary part is that now criminally insane, mentally ill schizophrenic people drive their children into the ocean while citing religious reasons. 2000 years ago criminally insane, mentally ill schizophrenic people wrote their psychotic illusions down and became the basis of religious reasons. If the chick with the van lived 2500 years ago she might be in the bible telling other people how to live.

Happy shall he be, that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the stones. -- Psalm 137:9

 

[raildogg]

The really scary part is that now criminally insane, mentally ill schizophrenic people drive their children into the ocean while citing religious reasons. 2000 years ago criminally insane, mentally ill schizophrenic people wrote their psychotic illusions down and became the basis of religious reasons.

Happy shall he be, that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the stones. -- Psalm 137:9

I don't think one should take the bible or any other religious text literally. With our current human minds, we can't comprehend the entire message. That's why modern day Christians are intolerant in many ways - they take everything literally from the bible. Same goes for Muslims and other religions. They use the texts to twist it to their own little thoughts. So in reality, they are not using the real religion but using the religion as a mask to hide under.

 

[disappoint]

Madness is rare in individuals - but in groups, parties, nations, and ages it is the rule. -Friedrich Nietzsche

I think one of the problems with thoughts that are out of touch with reality in religious groups is that they are all taught to be respectful to one another. Instead of rebuking goofy thoughts they pat each other on the back. They all agree with one another and they don't take criticism well.

Contrast that with the scientific community that not only welcomes criticism but teaches that the scientific method involves attempting to prove one's own theory or hypothesis wrong and you can start to see what the problem is at it's core. Intelligent people gravitate toward one, and religious people gravitate toward the other.

Edit: Just to add: Of course there may be some outliers. Some atypical people that are both intelligent and religious. I call those people con artists.

 

[sandorski]

Madness is rare in individuals - but in groups, parties, nations, and ages it is the rule. -Friedrich Nietzsche

I think one of the problems with thoughts that are out of touch with reality in religious groups is that they are all taught to be respectful to one another. Instead of rebuking goofy thoughts they pat each other on the back. They all agree with one another and they don't take criticism well.

Contrast that with the scientific community that not only welcomes criticism but teaches that the scientific method involves attempting to prove one's own theory or hypothesis wrong and you can start to see what the problem is at it's core. Intelligent people gravitate toward one, and religious people gravitate toward the other.

Edit: Just to add: Of course there may be some outliers. Some atypical people that are both intelligent and religious. I call those people con artists.

Good point.

 

[88keys]

Religion doesn't cause people to go crazy nor does it make people violent.

Irrational people believe and do irrational things. It's really that simple.

 

[brett_stevens]

For instance that lady who drove her van into the ocean trying to kill her 3 children, she was heard saying random religious things as she walked out of the van.

I think a lot of these people are hearing voices or having other auditory hallucinations and are turning to the only explanation they can accept. Almost no one wants to wake up and say, "You know, I really am having a mental healthcare issue here."

 

[GagHalfrunt]

I don't think one should take the bible or any other religious text literally. With our current human minds, we can't comprehend the entire message. That's why modern day Christians are intolerant in many ways - they take everything literally from the bible. Same goes for Muslims and other religions. They use the texts to twist it to their own little thoughts. So in reality, they are not using the real religion but using the religion as a mask to hide under.

There is no "real religion". All the texts are written by man, so man should be able to understand them. If there was a real god that created human minds and he had a real message then he would make damn sure that the minds he created on the creatures he created would be able to understand the message he wanted us to have.

The problem is that the scriptures of Christianity and Islam and Judaism and Hinduism and all the other religions were written by people who barely understood fire and had the same education as the green stuff growing in my shower. They don't make sense because they're the mad ramblings of idiots. Our failure is not in not understanding them, it's in some fools attempting to understand them as if they had merit. They don't.

 

[SlitheryDee]

This is just an open discussion for everyone to chime in and give their 2 cents. I just cant help but notice all the people who commit terrible crimes all the while talking about god, and religion. For instance that lady who drove her van into the ocean trying to kill her 3 children, she was heard saying random religious things as she walked out of the van. Other killers speak as if they were told by god to do these things. Are they all schizophrenic? or what is it that compels these people to do such horrible things.

I'm not religious or even supportive of religion, but you're barking up the wrong tree here. It's clearly not true that religious people have a monopoly on terrible crimes. I'm not saying that really believing the things that most religions would have you believe isn't insane. Just that it isn't the kind of insane that necessarily makes you any more likely to commit atrocities than a non religious person. Religion is just a cork board that people can easily pin their preexisting insanities on.

 

[OverVolt]

Religion doesn't cause people to go crazy nor does it make people violent.

Irrational people believe and do irrational things. It's really that simple.

Boooo get yer common sense out of here boooo.

 

[OverVolt]

Religions*

Spell check peeps..

Its such a terrible thing it doesn't DESERVE to be spelled correctly.

Get with the religion bashing memo's mang.

 

[OverVolt]

I'm not religious or even supportive of religion, but you're barking up the wrong tree here. It's clearly not true that religious people have a monopoly on terrible crimes. I'm not saying that really believing the things that most religions would have you believe isn't insane. Just that it isn't the kind of insane that necessarily makes you any more likely to commit atrocities than a non religious person. Religion is just a cork board that people can easily pin their preexisting insanities on.

Oh just let the atheists be delusional its more fun that way.

Its not really all atheists as much as it is just the batshit crazy ones who post here.