Haven’t read the rest of the rest of the thread but has anyone answered why this is such an issue? Why dig your feet in the sand being against a wall? Personally I’m against it because I don’t think it will be very effective but I don’t give a frick if they build it. Not worth shutting down the government (for either side). Why so anti-wall? The arguement doesn’t seem to be from the left that we shouldn’t build it because it’s ineffective, so what is the arguement?
It's like bunkers in Albania- a complete waste of resources driven by defective thinking.
I completely agree it’s a waste of resources but it’s what a large segment of America wants. There’s a LOT of wasted resources in the government. Why is this the one that causes you to dig up your heels in and cause a government shutdown?
A large segment of America wants Single Payer UHC. How about a trade?
I completely agree it’s a waste of resources but it’s what a large segment of America wants. There’s a LOT of wasted resources in the government. Why is this the one that causes you to dig up your heels in and cause a government shutdown?
A "large" segment of the public wants this wall?!..You got any facts to back that up?
Why is it the Democrats have to compromise and find a solution for every fucking problem the right creates?
Fuck em. Let em have a 2 year shutdown.
Because that’s how politics work. The no compromise / hold true to ideology push started with Newt and become a staple of DC politics ever since. Which in my opinion is not a good thing. You think he border wall is such a waste of money that it’s worth a 2 year shutdown? Do you feel as passionately about other government wastes of money? Why not?
Because that’s how politics work. The no compromise / hold true to ideology push started with Newt and become a staple of DC politics ever since. Which in my opinion is not a good thing. You think he border wall is such a waste of money that it’s worth a 2 year shutdown? Do you feel as passionately about other government wastes of money? Why not?
A big campaign promise was a border wall. Look who’s in the Oval Office.
...UC drops the mic/
impeach kavanaugh
Lol...really?!
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/cbs-news-poll-americans-dont-support-building-the-wall/
Also...I can't figure out why everyone is STILL framing this as a showdown between Trump and Democrats. Republicans still have a majority in both houses of Congress.
Wut? Impeach him? Lay it the premise for me, what would he be impeached for. I don’t know the mechanism but I’m assuming congress would have to come together to vote for an impeachment, what would these Congress critters use as their basis. And do you really truly think the Dems in power would do that? The Kavanaugh fiasco was a black eye for he Dems, do they want to revisit?
Am I wrong? Does Trump winning the presidency with a big campaign promise of a border wall not support the idea that a large segment of the population is for it?
Are you still saying Dr Ford facts are in dispute?
not to mention Hadrian's wall that was just as effective.The Great Wall and Maginot Line are just as effective today as they ever were.
Only Trump's base is strongly in favor of building a wall. Democrats and independents are both solidly against it. Why would Democrats want to compromise on something that only Trump's base will like? A large segment of the total population might be for it, but it's not a majority, and it's certainly not a large segment of potential Democrat voters.
Considering he won with a minority of the votes, even if 100% of the people that voted for him supported a border wall he still wouldn't have a large segment of the population.Am I wrong? Does Trump winning the presidency with a big campaign promise of a border wall not support the idea that a large segment of the population is for it?
Haven’t read the rest of the rest of the thread but has anyone answered why this is such an issue? Why dig your feet in the sand being against a wall? Personally I’m against it because I don’t think it will be very effective but I don’t give a frick if they build it. Not worth shutting down the government (for either side). Why so anti-wall? The arguement doesn’t seem to be from the left that we shouldn’t build it because it’s ineffective, so what is the arguement?
How would he get housekeepers and kitchen help.Huh?!...A "large" segment of the public wants this wall?!..You got any facts to back that up?..A large segment of the population wants more/improved border security.
It should be pointed out that building a wall and keeping immigrants out are different things. The wall is a bridge to nowhere. It's a big expensive thing that has nearly zero value. Stopping illegal immigrants means arresting business owners. Trump is, naturally, disinclined to do that.
I’m not sure you understand the concept of a compromise then.
Considering he won with a minority of the votes, even if 100% of the people that voted for him supported a border wall he still wouldn't have a large segment of the population.