Terrorist put bombs in their underwear should we strip search everyone ? The same person who created the toner cartridge bombs months before implanted a bomb surgically in his brother , should everyone be opened up to check ?
Because terrorists have never used children......
terrorist put bombs in their underwear should we strip search everyone ? The same person who created the toner cartridge bombs months before implanted a bomb surgically in his brother , should everyone be opened up to check ?
Jigg, that isn't enough.
I am not canning it, but nothing specifically states the rules and procedures for search and seisure here.
Could you look up the ICC and see if it is in there?
The Tariff rules do not apply, and I do not think the ICC applies to threats either, just legal import and export.....
why the fuck do you think we are using full body scanners
from the ICC:
RULE 25 REFUSAL TO TRANSPORT
Delta may refuse to transport any passenger, and may remove any passenger from its aircraft at any time,
for any of the following reasons:
A. Government Request Or Regulations
Whenever such action is necessary to comply with any government regulations, directives, or
instructions; or to comply with any governmental request for emergency transportation in connection
with the national defense, or whenever such action is necessary or advisable by reason of weather
or other conditions beyond its control (including but without limitation, acts of God, force majeure,
strikes, civil commotions, embargoes, wars, hostilities or disturbances) actual, threatened or
reported.
B. Search Of Passenger Or Property
When a passenger refuses to permit search of his person or property for explosives, weapons,
dangerous materials, or other prohibited items.
Terrorist put bombs in their underwear should we strip search everyone ? The same person who created the toner cartridge bombs months before implanted a bomb surgically in his brother , should everyone be opened up to check ?
why the fuck do you think we are using full body scanners
Are you really that dumb?
Delta, or the airline, is not the one saying you cant fly. Its the TSA. No were on the ticket does it say "The TSA/GOV can do as they please and you give up all rights..."
All that says is if Delta wants to search you and you say no THEY, delta, can kick you off. Think pilot coming back and saying let me see whets in your pocket. No? Then get off my plane.
Is english your 2nd Lang?
M75....
I agree it is not ON the ticket, but this looks like a "blank ticket" for the TSA.
The problem is, if a ticket references something not printed ON the ticket, are you held by its terms as well?
Also, how many different restrictions can you put in a contract before it becomes impractical to actually comprehend all of them before purchase? They were talking about a "fine print" law a while back, I wonder what happened to it....
You mean the scanners that have already been shown to not detect many explosives?
Are you really that dumb?
Delta, or the airline, is not the one saying you cant fly. Its the TSA. No were on the ticket does it say "The TSA/GOV can do as they please and you give up all rights..."
All that says is if Delta wants to search you and you say no THEY, delta, can kick you off. Think pilot coming back and saying let me see whets in your pocket. No? Then get off my plane.
Is english your 2nd Lang?
HR, you are a bit off on a number of things.
1. Profiling. It just does not work. The 9-11 hijackers were not in turbans or hajib's (is that the right word?) They were dressed in dockers and polo shirts. They would not have been profiled unless you stopped everyone that was not a true cracker.
2. Full scan. True C4 is tiny. There are other thnigs it can be hiddenin in small quantities thatw ould be enough, when combined, to get the job done. If these guys wanted to they would do just that and render our new system useless.
3. People joke about "body cavity" but there you go. I do not believe that C4 needs O2 to go......
4. The 9-11 hijackers had no explosives or guns. I believe they had plastic knives? (I would have to check). the only reason they were successful is that we keep the pilots door open.
The problem with this is that it is robbing us of our own freedoms. Agreed that this is not something that is truly a freedom, but to be searched like this with no record (not that the hijackers had one) is rediculous.
Also, even the news is not playing fair. They brought up the example of the attempted package bomb when that was NOT carried by an individual and NOT on a passenger flight. It had NOTHING to do with the TSA scanning and yet it was mentioned several times as an example of attempted terrorism that this will somehow combat.
Question for you. How many attempts have been made in the past 9 years to hijack a plane flying out of a US airport, successful or not?
We are overspending on a hyper-inflated threat.
We might as well be putting up radio jammers in our houses to prevent the Red Threat from spying on us.....
I think this whole "terrir" thing is overblown. That said if they are going to search people there are nations who use intelligent profiling and are very successful and the majority of travelers don't face this crap. It's rather simplistic to go for the turban only, but I don't think any of the 9/11 hijackers would have passed for that 83 year old nun.
You also bring up rights. Some might respond 'Well it could be anyone!!!" Well yeah, it could be however it hasn't been. If they are able to get Megan Fox to stuff a bomb in her underwear, then I'll pat her down personally. Until then the "We're blind because we want to be" attitude doesn't work for the toddler who just got groped without any reason whatsoever. Where is that child's rights?
We intentionally dumb ourselves down.
This is a photo of the TSA booth by the security check-in point at Indianapolis International Airport. Take a close look at the wallpaper on the computer in that booth. Nervous yet? In case you don't recognize the image in the wallpaper, it's this fake children's book cover:
The TSA is out of control. They patted down a 3 yr old and used the metal detector on her when she cried when they took her teddy bear.
http://www.nowpublic.com/world/mandy-simon-tsa-pats-down-screaming-child-video-2728309.html
You really want people like this , with this kind of attitude touching children ? That searching children is funny ? Tell kids not to let someone else touch them, unless it is the government ?
http://gizmodo.com/5688087/the-tsas-sense-of-humor-makes-me-nervous
modelworks, why are you so caught up with little kids getting searched? what is the problem with letting them stand in the fucking scanner? jesus christ this thread is full of stoopid
You are so dumb, you make me want to shoot myself so that we cease to exist in the same universe.
Stop getting so held up over "oh the children! The TSA rapist are going to molest my children right in front of me! pedophiles everywhere!!!!"
God, you go on about it so much I'm beginning to think that you rape your own children and don't want anyone else to get on that.
You do realize that the TSA, not the airlines, are the ones that require the security. Also the TSA IS a government agency supported by your tax dollars.
Security at airports is run by the TSA and is a government service supported by your tax dollars. Airlines, private companies, have no control over it.
You can't be serious. I wasn't even replying to you, rather ninjahedge onwhat's in the ICC regarding search. You agreed to follow the terms set by the carrier. This includes electronic inspection and following gov't regulations when you bought the ticket. You've been shown that you're wrong, but now choose to play the buh buh buh it's the TSA telling me I can't fly not delta.