Well, there wouldn't be this problem if the silly landlords did accept credit/debit cards. You see, the utility firms accept those new form of payments and they get their money right away. ALso, a late fee is understandable. But, if you want a check then a check you will get. In the mail. Deal with it.
So, what you're proposing is that every landlord set up some kind of transaction management website to accept electronic payments? Good luck with that.
Perhaps, if there was some reasonably priced service that allowed this kind of stuff, it would gain traction in some places.
Well, there wouldn't be this problem if the silly landlords did accept credit/debit cards. You see, the utility firms accept those new form of payments and they get their money right away. ALso, a late fee is understandable. But, if you want a check then a check you will get. In the mail. Deal with it.
Or you can send your rent in early and make sure it is there by the first and within the grace period. How hard is it? Your making this more difficult than it has to be.
One tenant asked if I could do a bank to bank transfer. Sure I said as long as I dont have to pay a fee for that. He paid his rent that way and I had no problem with it. Every first of the month, rent was in that account. Another tenant I am renting to right now has his bank write a check and that arrives early in the mail. The tenant likely has options to pay the landlord, I know my tenants do.
The onus is on the person that owes the money.
Now that this debate has been settled, I think the take-away for the OP is to not give an inch to the landlord. Keep your $50. It's yours. Pay your bill within a reasonable amount of time and save yourself some consternation by educating the landlord on how the postal system works. If they reject that argument, contact me. I have family in the news business that will focus their minds. Or, you could do things the other way.
The way where you poison their pregnant girlfriend?Now that this debate has been settled, I think the take-away for the OP is to not give an inch to the landlord. Keep your $50. It's yours. Pay your bill within a reasonable amount of time and save yourself some consternation by educating the landlord on how the postal system works. If they reject that argument, contact me. I have family in the news business that will focus their minds. Or, you could do things the other way.
Yes, it would. This is a business proposition if anyone wants to take up on it. Fact is, checks are anachronistic and so is the postal system. Landlords don't seem to understand that. But they are too cheap and greedy to take a hit in payment fees to have people pay by credit/debit cards. Fuck, they can make it a convenience fee. If I was still renting I'd jump on it.
Bank of America will send a check for me. If it shows up late and I get hit with a penalty, they'll reimburse me if I provide proper documentation.
And for Sho'Nuff, I believe ZeZe lives in New York.
Ultimately I think she is entitled to the late fee. But if this is the first time you've been late, it is an opportunity to negotiate a one-time exception. She isn't obligated, but if she wouldn't budge I'd be one PITA tenant until my lease was up.
Nonsense. OP has no control once the check leaves his hand or the bank. Therefore, he has no idea the route it takes and the hands it touches before arriving at its final destination. And it's not his fucking problem either. I can send a check (via my bank) and it could arrive at the management office before the due date and still not clear until like a week or two later. Why? Because the check can easily bounce around in that office and no one may be the wiser. Of course, they don't care about that. They just contact you saying that you were late. I had zero interest going there and hand-delivering it to them so the management company would just have to chuck that up as the price of doing business.
If the landlord wants to be a dick, the OP just has to show proof. In my case, I could've showed them when my bank deducted the amount from my account and sent it to them.
How do you know he paid it late? He mailed it within a reasonable time and the landlord claimed he/she got it late. Why accept one side and not the other? Like I said before, the landlord is making a big deal out of this so as not to set a precedent. That is all. They will back down (they always do). If they don't then shine a light on their business. There is a 100% probability that they are dirty somewhere.
How do we know he paid it late? Because it was not in his landlord's hand by the agreed upon time. Seriously Dari, when you post responses to questions and go on about this kind of stuff, it makes me question if you have ever dealt with grown up issues or are just a kid who doesn't understand how things work. Your petty arguments about proving it got there on time back up my claim. You have no personal information about the landlord in question yet claim they are 100% "dirty". WTF?
How do we know he paid it late? Because it was not in his landlord's hand by the agreed upon time. Seriously Dari, when you post responses to questions and go on about this kind of stuff, it makes me question if you have ever dealt with grown up issues or are just a kid who doesn't understand how things work. Your petty arguments about proving it got there on time back up my claim. You have no personal information about the landlord in question yet claim they are 100% "dirty". WTF?
Banks writing checks does not guarantee on-time payment. I can attest to that. Also, when I was in college, as today, I took my finances seriously. So, that meant dealing with everything on the 1st of the month. I never gave a damn about the concerns of the landlord. He was getting his check after the first. If he had a problem with that he could go pound sand. He never complained because I paid my bill. But I'm not going to fuck up my bill payment schedule for the sake of one payee.
Well, there wouldn't be this problem if the silly landlords did accept credit/debit cards. You see, the utility firms accept those new form of payments and they get their money right away. ALso, a late fee is understandable. But, if you want a check then a check you will get. In the mail. Deal with it.
Don't be a dick to them. Pay your rent on time and they have no reason to be a dick to you. It's as simple as that.
Generally if a party accepts payments by mail, posting the mail by the agreed date is considered acceptance of the payment.
http://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/mailbox_rule
If you dig into the mailbox rule a little you will find it doesn't apply. The mailbox rule has to do with acceptance/forming of a contract. That isn't the case here.
A contract (the lease) has already been agreed upon now we are just talking about payment. The terms of the payment are stipulated in the agreed upon lease and the OP has violated the terms.
-KeithP
If you dig into the mailbox rule a little you will find it doesn't apply. The mailbox rule has to do with acceptance/forming of a contract. That isn't the case here.
A contract (the lease) has already been agreed upon now we are just talking about payment. The terms of the payment are stipulated in the agreed upon lease and the OP has violated the terms.
-KeithP