brycejones
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Then fight for Medicare for all.
You won't be forced to buy anything then.
But that is socialism and not free market Jesus approved.
Then fight for Medicare for all.
You won't be forced to buy anything then.
Except that one can't keep the no pre-existing conditions clause without the individual mandate. The whole economic model crashes.Trump is walking back a bit on ACA and sounds committed to keeping some of the more popular aspects of the coverage provided.
I have no problem with the Republicans salvaging the intent but making ACA more economically sustainable.
I dont understand why the Democrats didnt just expand Medicare to begin with.Except that one can't keep the no pre-existing conditions clause without the individual mandate. The whole economic model crashes.
Jackalas is quite correct, the exit strategy to this mess is Medicare for all.
Lobbying.I dont understand why the Democrats didnt just expand Medicare to begin with.
Don't forget Trump is not a conservative.
Expect expanded medicare, and a deregulated health mart (to control costs) for higher income earners.
He never said he wasn't going to replace ACA, he said he would replace it with something better and that everyone would have healthcare. He's also not an establishment GOP hack so you can forget whatever the GOP was thinking.
From "The America We Deserve" ~1999/2000
“I'm a conservative on most issues but a liberal on this one,” Trump insists. “We should not hear so many stories of families ruined by health-care expenses.
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We need a change in the tax code that would give groups and individuals tax breaks for health insurance that are equivalent to those that corporations now receive. This would allow ordinary citizens to buy coverage that compliments their company policy and gives them more of what they need. It would also give them the option to jettison the company policy altogether and just buy their own insurance."
From his 100 day plan :
- Affordable Childcare and Eldercare Act. Allows Americans to deduct childcare and elder care from their taxes, incentivizes employers to provide on-side childcare services, and creates tax-free Dependent Care Savings Accounts for both young and elderly dependents, with matching contributions for low-income families.
I dont understand why the Democrats didnt just expand Medicare to begin with.
A quick Google tells me that Medicare currently costs 14% of our total government budget, while covering roughly a similar percentage of our nation. Even if you cut out part D and find alternative methods of reducing prescription costs, how in the hell are you supposed to pay for that if you expand it to everyone?
Employers.
Sorry, but i'm not got to argue the point you're making of which has nothing to do with my post that you quoted.
I do predict Trump will not tolerate Medicare paying top dollar for medication. He'll get Congress to agree too and Medicare will be able to negotiate prices.
No the Supreme Court chose to hear their challenge to ACA and ruled on it relative to the Constitution. The Democrats created an overly complex and bureaucratic turd with some admirable ideasHow are you this uninformed? The ACA did expand Medicaid and the repubs blocked it via the supreme court.
Excellent point and there were a lot of provisions in the ACA designed to push down healthcare costs (or at least make them rise more slowly).
Things like pushing medical providers into electronic records that could be easily (but securely) shared among medical providers, limiting premiums so that at least 80% of the premiums had to be spent on claims or the insurer had to refund the excess to the policy holder (probably a 100% guaranty that will be killed in any GOP plan as unfairly hurting insurance companies), etc.
I really, really hope Trump gets some real experts-from all viewpoints such as insurers, healthcare providers, patient advocates, etc. before gutting the ACA. It can certainly be made a lot better or made worthless. We need a workable and affordable health care system in this country and I could care less who takes the credit for getting it right.
Medicare... currently for seniors, who are VERY ill and expensive compared to general population.A quick Google tells me that Medicare currently costs 14% of our total government budget, while covering roughly a similar percentage of our nation. Even if you cut out part D and find alternative methods of reducing prescription costs, how in the hell are you supposed to pay for that if you expand it to everyone?
Then fight for Medicare for all.
You won't be forced to buy anything then.
Well Trump will have us winning so much we'll be tired of winning, I don't see where the money's coming from as being a problem.Medicare and Medicaid cost us $1.5T this year and is going up 9.3% a year which means as it currently stands in 4 years those two programs will cost $2 trillion dollars and that's just to cover the current roughly third of the population. Please oh please tell me how we can afford that alone much less tripling it.
This is the true elephant in the room that no one is talking about. In 4 years just the increase in those programs would require us to cut ALL of our defense spending to make up the money or just tack another $600B to the deficit.
Sounds good to me. Now if we could only get the profit motive out of health care.
Which part and what do you consider "profit"? Are we talking about removing profit from drug companies, hospitals, medical imaging device makers, medical suppliers, ambulance services, etc..? What about the salaries of those in healthcare like doctors and such? Or are you just talking about insurance companies?