Replace 295x2 with Titan X?

[sketchus]

Hi all,

I currently have a 295x2 in my PC. It's a great card, however I'm just sick of Crossfire. Too many games recently haven't worked for me, or have not had good scaling at all.

I know the Titan X is expensive for what it is, and less powerful than the 295x2, however it's the most powerful single card out there, and I'd like to avoid multigpu.

I game at 3440x1440 so it's pretty demanding and so I need pretty high performing kit unfortunately. The 295 is grand when it works, unfortunately after a good run of drivers it seems Crossfire support has been lackluster again.

Dying Light has no profile, Far Cry 4 has a shocking profile, Attila only just got Crossfire support etc etc.

Failing that I would consider SLI 980's. Can anyone speak to how SLI is at the moment? It might just be a grass is greener situation, but it does seem like they are slightly more on the ball.

Any help would be really appreciated.

 

[swilli89]

I know the Titan X is expensive for what it is, and less powerful than the 295x2, however it's the most powerful single card out there, and I'd like to avoid multigpu.

There you go, looks like you answered you own question. Expensive, fastest single card but slower then 295x2.

 

[Stormflux]

Wait and see how the 390X performs in the next month I'd say. As you're not drinking the kool-aid yet, you may get a better performer for cheaper if you rough it out a bit more.

Edit: SLI is no better aside from more frequent profiles. Dual Cards, to me is more trouble than it's worth (from my own experience). It hopefully gets better utilized when VR hits mainstream.

 

[Eymar]

There you go, looks like you answered you own question. Expensive, fastest single card but slower then 295x2. /thread

This. Single card may be slower in benchmarks, but may 'feel' faster than multi-gpu mainly due to lack of frametime\frame pacing issues.

SLI is worse in my experience than Crossfire with respect to frame pacing (ie. see stuttering and micro-stutter even at high FPS). However, SLI with a G-Sync monitor helps eliminate frame pacing issues for SLI in most games. SLI is better in terms of compatibility with newer games.

 

[Silverforce11]

If you play GameWorks (Dying Light, FC4) titles on AMD, expect problems, especially with no CF or poor performance.

If you enjoy those types of games (have a look at future NV games too), then avoid AMD.

 

[3DVagabond]

If you play GameWorks (Dying Light, FC4) titles on AMD, expect problems, especially with no CF or poor performance.

If you enjoy those types of games (have a look at future NV games too), then avoid AMD.

Or avoid the games and not reward them for their dodgy practices. What you are suggesting is the equivalent of paying ransom. Prepare to dig even deeper if you buy into it.

 

[gradoman]

Wait for AMD's response and then decide. Maybe prices will come down all around, lol. Maybe not.

 

[sketchus]

Or avoid the games and not reward them for their dodgy practices. What you are suggesting is the equivalent of paying ransom. Prepare to dig even deeper if you buy into it.

As far as I'm aware Dying Light is not Gameworks right?

Thanks for the answers all, still a bit of a decision to be made I guess. I might wait to see if there is a 980TI, but then again that likely won't power my resolution on it's own.

 

[Kenmitch]

I've read that you can somewhat force crossfire in some games.

The link shows how some fixed crossfire in Farcry 4. Think it works on other games also possibly. Think it's been mentioned before here.

http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/285335-far-cry-4-crossfire-fix/

Probably best to wait and see what 390x brings to the table.

 

[RaulF]

I've read that you can somewhat force crossfire in some games.

The link shows how some fixed crossfire in Farcry 4. Think it works on other games also possibly. Think it's been mentioned before here.

http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/285335-far-cry-4-crossfire-fix/

Probably best to wait and see what 390x brings to the table.

That sort of works.

For the 295X2 not that well, because of how the card is made is sort of hardwired xfire full time. I am in the same boat as you OP, i know the 390 is coming. But this silence from AMD makes me wonder if it will beat Titan X. I would think AMD would be thumping their chest real loud if they have a sure thing on their hands.

 

[3DVagabond]

As far as I'm aware Dying Light is not Gameworks right?

I was simply responding to Silverforce11's suggestion to buy into nVidia and Gameworks where I would suggest the opposite. That's all.

 

[sketchus]

Oh right, no worries.

@Raul, yes that worries me too. They're losing market share all the time. I think I saw that Nvidia have 4 unanswered GPUs out now. Everything points toward a 390x soon except anything from AMD. There's not really been a peep from them.

 

[SteveGrabowski]

As far as I'm aware Dying Light is not Gameworks right?

Thanks for the answers all, still a bit of a decision to be made I guess. I might wait to see if there is a 980TI, but then again that likely won't power my resolution on it's own.

Dying Light is a Gameworks title. When you start the game the first thing you see is a Warner Brothers screen, and the second is an Nvidia screen. It has lots of Gameworks options in the settings like Nvidia HBAO+. And it runs horrifyingly bad on any AMD hardware. The GTX 960 and R9 290x have the same performance in the game according to the Tom's Hardware benchmark in their Dying Light article reelased at the beginning of the month. It's like they purposefully took a hatchet to AMD performance in their game as opposed to just optimizing for Nvidia. Sucks, because it's an amazing game. I can't think of any game like it when it comes to just nosediving on one brand's hardware.

 

[Silverforce11]

Dying Light is a Gameworks title. When you start the game the first thing you see is a Warner Brothers screen, and the second is an Nvidia screen. It has lots of Gameworks options in the settings like Nvidia HBAO+. And it runs horrifyingly bad on any AMD hardware. The GTX 960 and R9 290x have the same performance in the game according to the Tom's Hardware benchmark in their Dying Light article reelased at the beginning of the month. It's like they purposefully took a hatchet to AMD performance in their game as opposed to just optimizing for Nvidia. Sucks, because it's an amazing game. I can't think of any game like it when it comes to just nosediving on one brand's hardware.

Yup, the excuse that its open world so it performs worse on AMD does NOT FLY.

Watch Dogs (GameWorks) is massively open world, runs fine on AMD, CF is even smoother and better (4K SLI still broken after so long!).

So if you want to play many GameWorks title, go NV.

 

[desprado]

AMD can never respond to Nvidia Gameworks title.Mostly gameworks title are about 30% to 40% on Nvidia with much better experience and smoothness and up coming games like GTA V, The Witcher 3 ,MGS Phantom of Pain and Batman Arkham Knight are Gamework Title.

 

[AnandThenMan]

Update (1/3/2014): According to Nvidia, developers can, under certain licensing circumstances, gain access to (and optimize) the GameWorks code, but cannot share that code with AMD for optimization purposes.

This is why GW needs to die.

 

[Keysplayr]

Or avoid the games and not reward them for their dodgy practices. What you are suggesting is the equivalent of paying ransom. Prepare to dig even deeper if you buy into it.

Nah, just buy the card that can do it all for you.

 

[tynopik]

I don't understand why anyone would buy a Titan X before the 390X comes out. Even if you don't end up getting the 390X, there's a good chance of a Titan X price cut.

 

[Innokentij]

I used to have a GTX 690 and sold it to get a TITAN for this same reason. SLI and CF is crap for anything but benchmarks and maybe for less wealthy people trying to get some performance. The day it is a true hardware solution and not some software driver crap i will pick it up again.

 

[altairauditore]

Wait for the 390X.

 

[Cookie Monster]

If you need it now, go for it. Those who already have gotten there one or two (or four?!) seem pretty happy about their upgrades.

If its not urgent, waiting for the 390X is a good idea. Prices would have dropped by then and there could be a 980Ti around the corner also.

 

[3DVagabond]

Nah, just buy the card that can do it all for you.

Read the post above yours.

 

[RaulF]

Nah, just buy the card that can do it all for you.

Wow.

A Nvidia supported member recommending Nvidia. How refreshing.

 

[Silverforce11]

Wow.

A Nvidia supported member recommending Nvidia. How refreshing.

He's actually correct.

Buy a Titan X for example, and it will run all games just fine, including AMD GE games.

Didn't you notice in recent AMD GE games like Dragon Age Inq or Civ BE, NV is still faster?

You buy AMD, you run GameWorks titles like crap. You buy NV, you run everything good.

 

[96Firebird]

Wow.

A Nvidia supported member recommending Nvidia. How refreshing.

Wow.

He didn't even recommend a specific card in his post.

Whats the alternative, buy a card that can't do all you want it to?