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[cmdrdredd]

Most of those are just expansions, and most of them were just small releases on specific platforms that make it look like a lot more than it was. Example :

MoH : Allied Assault - Major Release
MoH : Frontline - Basically a rehash to stick on consoles
MoH : Infiltrator - A Watered down title to stick on GBA
MoH : Rising Sun - Something in the way of an expansion pack to stick on consoles
etc, etc.

Sure if you actually bought all the games for all the platforms, but most of these were not AAA titles, and there was a ton of cheap recycling. And many games are listed multiple times. CoD2, CoD2 Collector's Edition, CoD2 Big Red One, this would be like listing all of the BF2 releases as different titles. Or dividing up the map packs on MW or BF3. BF3, BF3 Limited Edition, BF3 Premium, BF3 Karkand Pack, BF3 Armored Kill, BF3 Aftermath, etc, etc. It's still just BF3.

It's still another release. Same game or stripped down version or whatever, it's another version marketed which oversaturates.

So...have you met exdeath yet?

He did say he liked Bioshock.

 

[cmdrdredd]

double

 

[Arkaign]

I gotta stop coming into these threads. It's the same shit over and over and over, everyone constantly arguing and repeating the same opinions but nobody every changes their minds. What a waste of time.

You know why the console gaming forum here is dead? Because every single thread devolves into this shitfest of fanboys and repeated bitching.

There are plenty of folks with varied opinions who can debate and pro/con titles and systems without being insulting or rude about it. You just have to ignore the people with those kinds of tones, which is pretty easy to do.

 

[kalrith]

Microsoft apologized for Adam Orthy's comments but said nothing to deny the always-on requirement (http://www.dailytech.com/Microsoft+...o+Promises+on+State+of+DRM/article30295.htm):

We apologize for the inappropriate comments made by an employee on Twitter yesterday. This person is not a spokesperson for Microsoft, and his personal views do not reflect the customer centric approach we take to our products or how we would communicate directly with our loyal consumers. We are very sorry if this offended anyone, however we have not made any announcements about our product roadmap, and have no further comment on this matter.

Edit: Oops! It looks like that's old news: http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2312609

 

[exdeath]

I was unaware that all games were shooters. I guess I didn't play all the action/adventure, RPG, and platformers that I thought I played this generation. That's the problem with people like exdeath. They want to focus on the one genre they hate and pretend like that is the only type of game that is out this generation, when there have been amazing entries in all the genres this gen.

Name them. First person shooters revamped with a sword instead of a gun in your hand and gothic textures instead of industrial don't count.

 

[exdeath]

So...have you met exdeath yet?

I loved Bioshock, Borderlands, and Fallout 3, if not slightly depressed that they are STILL first person shooters at their core despite having RPG and exploration elements I crave. But at least they weren't just online games from a modified Counterstrike template with bots thrown in for single player.

I have 200 hours on my final save for both Fallout 3 and Borderlands.

When it comes to FPS, System Shock 2 and original Deus Ex are the shoes to be filled for me to be interested, and for online competitive FPS, its Unreal Tournament 2004.

But still... I'd like to see something that isn't a FPS from time to time.

Most examples of "non COD/FPS" games people give me are just FPS with a sword and gothic textures instead of a gun and industrial textures, and those dont count.

Ni no Kuni was the first non FPS rooted game that had me excited this whole generation. And I have The Last of Us Suvival and Post Pandemic editions preordered for my non FPS survival horror/suspense/explore/puzzle fix.

 

[American Gunner]

Name them. First person shooters revamped with a sword instead of a gun in your hand and gothic textures instead of industrial don't count.

You seriously can't think of 20-30 titles this gen that aren't shooters? Here let me help you find them:

https://www.google.com/

Use it, it's pretty neat. You can search for all sorts of things.

 

[exdeath]

Apparently you can't either so you copped out with telling me to Google them.

The games I enjoy have big shoes to fill, something the current corporate media conglomerate greed driven game industry today will not even attempt because it's not safe to leave their little guaranteed profit zone.

Games need to be made by gamers again and not driven by game haters like Activisions CEO.

 

[American Gunner]

Apparently you can't either so you copped out with telling me to Google them.

The games I enjoy have big shoes to fill, something the current corporate media conglomerate greed driven game industry today will not even attempt because it's not safe to leave their little guaranteed profit zone.

Games need to be made by gamers again and not driven by game haters like Activisions CEO.

Or it could be because JRPG's have died off in consumers. Congrats on loving them, but they aren't as big anymore. And I have probably 20-25 games right now that aren't shooters, so I can name a few. But you are the only one in this thread, maybe even on this forum, that thinks the only games out this generation are shooters. And no matter what people tell you, you just go back to the same tired routine. So what is the point in listing off games, when you will just ignore it and talk about how MS started ruining gaming or something stupid like that?

 

[smackababy]

Apparently you can't either so you copped out with telling me to Google them.

The games I enjoy have big shoes to fill, something the current corporate media conglomerate greed driven game industry today will not even attempt because it's not safe to leave their little guaranteed profit zone.

Games need to be made by gamers again and not driven by game haters like Activisions CEO.

Yeah, games need to be made by gamers again... 3dRealms worked out well.

So let's see. Games this gen that aren't shooters:
God of War x 2
Dark Souls
Demon's Souls
Street Figher IV + all the iterations
Tekken x 2
Mortal Kombat
Soul Caliber
King of Fighters
Final Fantasy x 2
Prototype x 2
Lost Odyssey
quite a few Racing games
Elder Scrolls x 2 (which I am sure you are going to say are FPS, but you're an idiot so I don't care)
and I am going to lunch, so I am concluding my list here.

 

[purbeast0]

Apparently you can't either so you copped out with telling me to Google them.

The games I enjoy have big shoes to fill, something the current corporate media conglomerate greed driven game industry today will not even attempt because it's not safe to leave their little guaranteed profit zone.

Games need to be made by gamers again and not driven by game haters like Activisions CEO.

uncharted
uncharted 2
uncharted 3
ratchet and clank: crack in time
ratchet and clank: tools of destruction
ratchet and clank: quest for booty
ratchet and clank: all for one
hot shots golf out of bounds
street fighter iv
super street fighter iv
marvel vs capcom
ultimate marvel vs capcom
gears of war
gears of war 2
gears of war 3
mortal kombat
street fighter vs tekken
mortal kombat 2
nba 2k12
EDIT - the last guy, not the last of us
burnout paradise
burnout revenge
need for speed most wanted
motorstorm
forza horizon
super stardust hd
sly cooper: thieves in time
geometry wars retro evolved
geometry wars 2
marble blast ultra
flow
pain
god of war 3
god of war collection

that is over 30 of the games i own that i could think off the top of my head that aren't first person shooters. here are the first person shooters i own.

cod2
cod4: mw
halo 3
halo 4

wow 4 out of nearly 40 titles are fps OMG!! and if you want to lump gears into there, since it is a shooter and not fps, then 7 out of nearly 40 titles.

you really have no clue what you are talking about when you say there are no games out there other than shooters.

 

[Tweak155]

I was immediately going to mention racing games - some excellent ones. There are also sports games (if you're into that), lots of Kinect games that are not FPS, and puzzle games to boot. Dungeon Defenders and similarly designed strategy games.

That's ok though, we don't need to convince one person to know what the truth is.

 

[exdeath]

The Last of Us? Not even out yet. Gears of War not a shooter? LOL WTF?

Lots of sports, racing, and fighter games. You are the poster child for mainstream, no wonder my posts get under your skin.

If I walked past your stack of games at a yard sale the only ones that would even catch my eye are Uncharted and Ratchet.

 

[American Gunner]

The Last of Us? Not even out yet. Gears of War not a shooter? LOL WTF?

Lots of sports, racing, and fighter games. You are the poster child for mainstream, no wonder my posts get under your skin.

If I walked past your stack of games at a yard sale the only ones that would even catch my eye are Uncharted and Ratchet.

So you're looking forward to The Last of Us because it isn't a FPS, but discount Gears as a shooter, even though it is also a TPS. That makes sense.

 

[smackababy]

The Last of Us? Not even out yet. Gears of War not a shooter? LOL WTF?

Lots of sports, racing, and fighter games. You are the poster child for mainstream, no wonder my posts get under your skin.

If I walked past your stack of games at a yard sale the only ones that would even catch my eye are Uncharted and Ratchet.

Fighting games are about as mainstream as your stupid opinions.

 

[American Gunner]

I feel like I called that exdeath would do exactly what he did, ignore any list and try to make a stupid point. Oh wait, I did in my previous post.

And no matter what people tell you, you just go back to the same tired routine. So what is the point in listing off games, when you will just ignore it and talk about how MS started ruining gaming or something stupid like that?

 

[exdeath]

There is more to the difference between GoW and The Last of Us than camera position...

Playing Gears of War is about as immersive to me as playing Centipede honestly.

 

[American Gunner]

Ok, so what about the rest of the list? Are you just going to keep ignoring all the evidence that everyone gives you?

 

[exdeath]

The only evidence is that they aren't shooters. Fine. I'm still not interested in monthly release sports, fighting, and racing games either. I was told there would also be adventure games in the list, not surprisingly there isn't a single one.

Maybe it should be a list of non shooters/fighters/sports/racing, those are the "evil 4" genres that I consider to be the mainstream devil.

I was never into sports/racing/fighting games on SNES, etc either FYI.

 

[purbeast0]

The Last of Us? Not even out yet. Gears of War not a shooter? LOL WTF?

Lots of sports, racing, and fighter games. You are the poster child for mainstream, no wonder my posts get under your skin.

If I walked past your stack of games at a yard sale the only ones that would even catch my eye are Uncharted and Ratchet.

meant the last guy, not the last of us sorry.

can you read? i said gears of war is a shooter but not an fps. try reading next time.

so you say to name the great games that aren't shooters, and i named nearly 40 that i own that are sports, racing, fighter, and adventure games, yet you claim there are only shooters on the market.

GOTCHA.

EDIT:

and these are the games i own, not the ones i've played. i've played numerous others, but i was only listing the games i own.

 

[exdeath]

meant the last guy, not the last of us sorry.

can you read? i said gears of war is a shooter but not an fps. try reading next time.

so you say to name the great games that aren't shooters, and i named nearly 40 that i own that are sports, racing, fighter, and adventure games, yet you claim there are only shooters on the market.

GOTCHA.

EDIT:

and these are the games i own, not the ones i've played. i've played numerous others, but i was only listing the games i own.

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Ill start saying shooters/sports/racing/fighting games then from now on. I thought it was already understood that even since the 8 and 16 bit days that sports/fighting/racing games were already regarded as mass market filler and not worth mentioning. (With exceptions of couse, even Rock n Roll Racing and Mario Kart were stand outs)

Shooters only recently became the next popular "in" thing this last generation.

Someone mentioned adventure games, I didn't see a single one. Uncharted seems like it should be one but its more a on rails quick time event fighter/narrative than any true sense of exploration.

 

[purbeast0]

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Ill start saying shooters/sports/racing/fighting games then from now on. I thought it was already understood that even since the 8 and 16 bit days that sports/fighting/racing games were already regarded as mass market filler and not worth mentioning. (With exceptions of couse, even Rock n Roll Racing and Mario Kart were stand outs)

so basically anything outside of rpg is mainstream and bad?

oh, and also, you know nothing about the market if you think fighting games are mainstream.

this will be the last time i reply to you on this topic, although i will continue to call out some of your false troll posts.

 

[smackababy]

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Ill start saying shooters/sports/racing/fighting games then from now on. I thought it was already understood that even since the 8 and 16 bit days that sports/fighting/racing games were already regarded as mass market filler and not worth mentioning. (With exceptions of couse, even Rock n Roll Racing and Mario Kart were stand outs)

Shooters only recently became the next popular "in" thing this last generation.

Someone mentioned adventure games, I didn't see a single one.

I love how you ignored my post that has platformers and RPGs, even JRPGs. Let's not forget Dragon Age x 2
Bayonetta
Ninja Gaiden x something more than 1
DMC

 

[exdeath]

so basically anything outside of rpg is mainstream and bad?

oh, and also, you know nothing about the market if you think fighting games are mainstream.

this will be the last time i reply to you on this topic, although i will continue to call out some of your false troll posts.

We have what Mortal Kombat 9 now and three releases of SF4? Yeah that qualifies. The quick and simple 5 min match gameplay appeals to the same mechanics that make call of duty and sports games popular, you know, the kind of gamers that can't sit still enough for a game like Bioshock because zomg it takes 3 hours for the story to really get rolling and I wanna blow something up NOW!!!

 

[exdeath]

I love how you ignored my post that has platformers and RPGs, even JRPGs. Let's not forget Dragon Age x 2
Bayonetta
Ninja Gaiden x something more than 1
DMC

Didn't see yours, will come back to it, but Ill start with Final Fantasy XIII being rejected by long time fans of the series; saying "oh they make RPGs now" and listing Final Fantasy XIII in that list demonstrates that you dont really understand the problem.

Even when you list non mainstream games, most of them will be either diluted mainstreamified disasters like Final Fantasy XIII or remakes of oldie but goodie franchises like Ninja Gaiden, both which only reinforce my argument against modern mainstream.

Anyone listing FFXIII and expecting to be taken seriously is completely oblivious to a problem even existing so it's hard to communicate on those terms. At least list Ni no Kuni and Fire Emblem Awakening

Saying "look JRPGs" plural when the only one you listed is widely regarded as a big failure by RPG fans caused by Square's sellout to the casual gamers is amusing. If anything FFXIII is the nail in the coffin derailing and dumbing down a once great series, perhaps the most tragic victim of current lowest common denominator make a quick buck trends in the industry, so it's ironic that you'd list it.