Republican CNN Debate

[Farang]

Originally posted by: Skitzer

Originally posted by: loki8481

Has anyone ever heard him answer a question fully without sidetracking to how he was the only one who supported the surge

it's a fair comparison against Romney.

McCain put his political career on the line, while Kerry... er, Romney gave a non-answer and flip-flopped.

Not my point ..... he wasn't the only one who supported the surge, and my apologies for not being clearer, Has anyone ever heard him answer a question fully without sidetracking off on a tangent about anything else but what was asked?

Fair complaint, especially on how he dodged the economic question. But it is his strongest card, like I said he put it all on the line and won and wants to show it off. He has the right to flaunt it but agree he is taking it too far and just maybe it'll come back to bite him in the ass like 9/11 did Giuliani.

 

[scootermaster]

Is there anywhere to watch this online?

 

[Wreckem]

Originally posted by: loki8481
I thought Huckabee did the best, though it probably won't make a difference.

McCain held his own, but Romney looked really pissed for a lot of it :laugh:

actually agreed with a couple of Paul's answers.

It may, Romney and Huckabee are focusing on the deep south. Huckabees preformanced tonight will hurt Romney. Romney isnt just running bs McCain, hes still running against Huckabee and Huckabee does have a base in the deep south. His preformance tonight will help him.

 

[Wreckem]

Originally posted by: Skitzer
The more I see McCain the more I dislike him. He comes off so arrogant and snide but in truth is a mental midget. He's acting like he has the GOP nomination and even the Presidency won already. What a pompous ass with his holier than thou attitude. He refuses to admit that he lied about Romneys statement about timetables for Iraq. I guess he believes that since he was a war hero that he is owed something. It seems like he's running his whole campaign on the Iraq war. He is wrong about so many issues that conservatives feel are important ....... he is a conservative wannabe. I am utterly amazed that people are buying his crap and lies. In my opinion he's the biggest flip flopper I have seen to date. Has anyone ever heard him answer a question fully without sidetracking to how he was the only one who supported the surge and what a great leader he is? I hope he gets the GOP nomination because he will lose and big!
Go Obama!

He has a far better chance than any other Republican candidate to beat Billary.

As it stands now, no one polls anywhere near Obama. Romney and Huckabee are trailing back in the high 20% range. McCain trails in the high teens.

The only shot, all be it small, for the GOP to win is if Billary gets the nomination.

 

[Pabster]

Originally posted by: Skitzer
The more I see McCain the more I dislike him. He comes off so arrogant and snide but in truth is a mental midget. He's acting like he has the GOP nomination and even the Presidency won already. What a pompous ass with his holier than thou attitude. He refuses to admit that he lied about Romneys statement about timetables for Iraq. I guess he believes that since he was a war hero that he is owed something. It seems like he's running his whole campaign on the Iraq war. He is wrong about so many issues that conservatives feel are important ....... he is a conservative wannabe. I am utterly amazed that people are buying his crap and lies. In my opinion he's the biggest flip flopper I have seen to date. Has anyone ever heard him answer a question fully without sidetracking to how he was the only one who supported the surge and what a great leader he is? I hope he gets the GOP nomination because he will lose and big!
Go Obama!

Agreed. McCain looks like such a wise-ass sitting up there now...the smirks, the crooked smiles, the glares...Oh the fall will be painful.

As for Ron Paul...I've got to say, he looked pretty good tonight. I didn't agree with him on everything but he made some good points. Ironic that in a thread where others say Paul wasn't so good, I thought he was pretty darn good.

 

[Aztech]

Originally posted by: Skitzer
The more I see McCain the more I dislike him. He comes off so arrogant and snide but in truth is a mental midget. He's acting like he has the GOP nomination and even the Presidency won already. What a pompous ass with his holier than thou attitude. He refuses to admit that he lied about Romneys statement about timetables for Iraq. I guess he believes that since he was a war hero that he is owed something. It seems like he's running his whole campaign on the Iraq war. He is wrong about so many issues that conservatives feel are important ....... he is a conservative wannabe. I am utterly amazed that people are buying his crap and lies. In my opinion he's the biggest flip flopper I have seen to date. Has anyone ever heard him answer a question fully without sidetracking to how he was the only one who supported the surge and what a great leader he is? I hope he gets the GOP nomination because he will lose and big!
Go Obama!

I'm with you. I don't even know all his credentials, the main thing I know is he was a POW and we owe him gratitude for serving this country and suffering for it. But based on his personality in these debates and on talk shows, I am quite turned off and I can't believe he's the front runner.

They showed undecided voter's second by second reactions to what the candidates were saying using this graph on CNN a while ago, and it confirmed my feelings that Romney owned him at this debate.

 

[Pabster]

Originally posted by: Wreckem
He has a far better chance than any other Republican candidate to beat Billary.

As it stands now, no one polls anywhere near Obama. Romney and Huckabee are trailing back in the high 20% range. McCain trails in the high teens.

The only shot, all be it small, for the GOP to win is if Billary gets the nomination.

Uh, Rasmussen has McCain up 6 to 8 points on both Billary and Obama for the general election.

 

[Wreckem]

Originally posted by: Skitzer

Originally posted by: loki8481

Has anyone ever heard him answer a question fully without sidetracking to how he was the only one who supported the surge

it's a fair comparison against Romney.

McCain put his political career on the line, while Kerry... er, Romney gave a non-answer and flip-flopped.

Not my point ..... he wasn't the only one who supported the surge, and my apologies for not being clearer, Has anyone ever heard him answer a question fully without sidetracking off on a tangent about anything else but what was asked?

He was one of the first supporters. He is one of the ones who conviced Bush on it. Romney completely hedged even when everyone knew he was going to announce his bid for presidency.

A Romney ticket will spell the death of political careers for many GOP Congressmen.

 

[Wreckem]

Originally posted by: Pabster

Originally posted by: Skitzer
The more I see McCain the more I dislike him. He comes off so arrogant and snide but in truth is a mental midget. He's acting like he has the GOP nomination and even the Presidency won already. What a pompous ass with his holier than thou attitude. He refuses to admit that he lied about Romneys statement about timetables for Iraq. I guess he believes that since he was a war hero that he is owed something. It seems like he's running his whole campaign on the Iraq war. He is wrong about so many issues that conservatives feel are important ....... he is a conservative wannabe. I am utterly amazed that people are buying his crap and lies. In my opinion he's the biggest flip flopper I have seen to date. Has anyone ever heard him answer a question fully without sidetracking to how he was the only one who supported the surge and what a great leader he is? I hope he gets the GOP nomination because he will lose and big!
Go Obama!

Agreed. McCain looks like such a wise-ass sitting up there now...the smirks, the crooked smiles, the glares...Oh the fall will be painful.

As for Ron Paul...I've got to say, he looked pretty good tonight. I didn't agree with him on everything but he made some good points. Ironic that in a thread where others say Paul wasn't so good, I thought he was pretty darn good.

The fall will be painful? Hes easily winning 500 delegates on Super Tuesday.

 

[Pabster]

Originally posted by: Wreckem
The fall will be painful? Hes easily winning 500 delegates on Super Tuesday.

Bold predictions...we shall see

 

[Wreckem]

Originally posted by: Pabster

Originally posted by: Wreckem
He has a far better chance than any other Republican candidate to beat Billary.

As it stands now, no one polls anywhere near Obama. Romney and Huckabee are trailing back in the high 20% range. McCain trails in the high teens.

The only shot, all be it small, for the GOP to win is if Billary gets the nomination.

Uh, Rasmussen has McCain up 6 to 8 points on both Billary and Obama for the general election.

Other polls arent so friendly. He trails by 15% in a poll as well. Id say the avg vs Obama is trailing by 5%.

 

[Wreckem]

Originally posted by: Pabster

Originally posted by: Wreckem
The fall will be painful? Hes easily winning 500 delegates on Super Tuesday.

Bold predictions...we shall see

Hes got CA, NY, NJ, Arizona, and Conneticutt pretty much locked up. That nets him 350+ depending on how much he wins Florida by.

Hell pick off some smaller states as well.

 

[Pabster]

All with the exception of Arizona liberal bastions, Wreckem.

McCain has serious problems with the base.

 

[scootermaster]

Perhaps I have no faith in my country -- although why should I? We look at who we elected the last 8 years. Or at least the last four -- but the more I look at these candidates, the more I'm really, really disheartened. And the reason I'm disheartened (and the reason I lack faith) is because I just don't see the people of this country electing either a woman or an African American president. It's all going to be fun and games, up until voting day, and then people just won't pull the trigger.

And then we're left with this. Although I guess it can't get any worse, can it? (Huckabee accepted, of course)

 

[Wreckem]

Originally posted by: Pabster
All with the exception of Arizona liberal bastions, Wreckem.

McCain has serious problems with the base.

Yeah well, he did win Florida.

And he'll do will in Oklahoma thanks to the endorsement by Colburn. Hes going to win 500 delegates on Super Tuesday. The base of the republican party in many Super Tuesday states are moderates, not hard line conservatives. You, Rush, and Hannity might not like it, but the Republican Party is going back towards the center, and more fiscally responsible than the last 8 years.

 

[Pabster]

Wreckem: Yeah, he won Florida. But look behind the numbers. He lost 7/10 strong conservative/conservative voters.

He must do better than that, and I expect he'll begin to attempt to soften relations with the base more. It may be too little, too late.

 

[Wreckem]

Originally posted by: Pabster
Wreckem: Yeah, he won Florida. But look behind the numbers. He lost 7/10 strong conservative/conservative voters.

He must do better than that, and I expect he'll begin to attempt to soften relations with the base more. It may be too little, too late.

No he doesnt.

The GOP in a lot of states are significantly more moderate than you are making them out to be. He can easily pick off the liberal states and moderate states. Thats enough Delegates for him to get the nomination.

McCain votes with the GOP 90% of the time. Hes plenty conservative.

I guess you noticed the trend in the GOP and America. Theres a significant trend to moderate view points. Not only in America but in the GOP.

There are only two fiscal conservatives out of the GOP candidates. ONLY TWO, Ron Paul and John McCain are committed to cutting spending.

The real truth of the matter is, if McCain had won the Republican Nomination in 2000, win or lose the General Election. The US and the GOP would be in far better shape than they are.

 

[eits]

haha @ republican debate happening at a library named after their god

 

[FoBoT]

i watched the CNN talking heads analyize afterwards, sounds like McLame didn't do well with the focus group

 

[Wreckem]

Originally posted by: FoBoT
i watched the CNN talking heads analyize afterwards, sounds like McLame didn't do well with the focus group

He didnt do well in post debate focus groups in NH, SC, or Florida, but won them all.

 

[HeXploiT]

The best part of tonight was when the candidates were asked if Ronald Reagan would endorse them. Ron Paul was able to say Ronald Reagan DID endorse me.
Reagan endorsed and campaigned for Paul and Paul was one of only four people in congress to endorse Reagan in 1976.

 

[LittleNemoNES]

Originally posted by: Pabster
Wreckem: Yeah, he won Florida. But look behind the numbers. He lost 7/10 strong conservative/conservative voters.

He must do better than that, and I expect he'll begin to attempt to soften relations with the base more. It may be too little, too late.

I don't know. The way the electorate is looking now-a-dayz, he may be able to get bye by tossing conservatives a bone here and there. ESPECIALLY if hillary wins the Dems' nomination.

I don't like the fact that he half-heartedly tries to prove himself to the right wingers...otherwise I think McCain is a pretty good candidate (I especially like the fact that he's not a religious nut)

 

[randym431]

As a liberal, I'd be tickled pink if McCain got the nomination.
Too good to be true.

 

[dbk]

Originally posted by: Farang

Originally posted by: Skitzer

Originally posted by: loki8481

Has anyone ever heard him answer a question fully without sidetracking to how he was the only one who supported the surge

it's a fair comparison against Romney.

McCain put his political career on the line, while Kerry... er, Romney gave a non-answer and flip-flopped.

Not my point ..... he wasn't the only one who supported the surge, and my apologies for not being clearer, Has anyone ever heard him answer a question fully without sidetracking off on a tangent about anything else but what was asked?

Fair complaint, especially on how he dodged the economic question. But it is his strongest card, like I said he put it all on the line and won and wants to show it off. He has the right to flaunt it but agree he is taking it too far and just maybe it'll come back to bite him in the ass like 9/11 did Giuliani.

Yeah, he totally dodged that question about the economy. It made me crack up due to the clear obviousness of his dodging.

 

[Wreckem]

Originally posted by: dbk

Originally posted by: Farang

Originally posted by: Skitzer

Originally posted by: loki8481

Has anyone ever heard him answer a question fully without sidetracking to how he was the only one who supported the surge

it's a fair comparison against Romney.

McCain put his political career on the line, while Kerry... er, Romney gave a non-answer and flip-flopped.

Not my point ..... he wasn't the only one who supported the surge, and my apologies for not being clearer, Has anyone ever heard him answer a question fully without sidetracking off on a tangent about anything else but what was asked?

Fair complaint, especially on how he dodged the economic question. But it is his strongest card, like I said he put it all on the line and won and wants to show it off. He has the right to flaunt it but agree he is taking it too far and just maybe it'll come back to bite him in the ass like 9/11 did Giuliani.

Yeah, he totally dodged that question about the economy. It made me crack up due to the clear obviousness of his dodging.

For once, Ron Paul hit it on the head. The president doesnt have much to do with the economy. Even Romney would need experts on the economy.