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HomerJS

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He got kicked out because he was seen as anti-American...that's the truth, he faced what Ali faced in the 60s..........
Trump and Fox News told people to hate Kapernick that’s why they did. The same Trump who trashed a POW.

People are really brainwashed

Whenever the question comes up is America a racist country one of my measures is the Obama test. What if Obama said the same thing about John McCain? Would the reaction be the same?
 
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Muse

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I am an American, I was born in New York City. I live in a suburb where a majority of whites are very viscerally patriotic, etc.
So, you are surrounded by crazy. Must give you butterflies and weird dreams.
 

GettyRoad

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So, you are surrounded by crazy. Must give you butterflies and weird dreams.
There's nothing wrong about being patriotic of your nation, the English do it, the French do it, the Nigerians do it...unless it is violent
 
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What is it about Russians...err i mean conservatives and old washed up sports athletes/celebrities and running for office? Worshipping false idols kind of thing? I want a career politician that has worked his way up thru the ranks. I don't want an ex racist baseball player who has never held any office, running...well any office.
 
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nakedfrog

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What is it about Russians...err i mean conservatives and old washed up sports athletes/celebrities and running for office? Golden calf thing? I want a career politician that has worked his way up thru the ranks. I don't want an ex racist baseball player who has never held any office, running...well any office.
But the baseball player feels like he's patriotic, and that's all that really matters, you know?
 
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Muse

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What is it about Russians...err i mean conservatives and old washed up sports athletes/celebrities and running for office? Worshipping false idols kind of thing? I want a career politician that has worked his way up thru the ranks. I don't want an ex racist baseball player who has never held any office, running...well any office.
IF that career politician is principled compassionate & intelligent. However, ex sports celebs should all stay out of running for political offices. I know of no exception past or present.
 
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GettyRoad

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What is it about Russians...err i mean conservatives and old washed up sports athletes/celebrities and running for office? Worshipping false idols kind of thing? I want a career politician that has worked his way up thru the ranks. I don't want an ex racist baseball player who has never held any office, running...well any office.
1. I'm not a conservative.
2. Athletes are like everyone else, they pay taxes, etc., but it is that they are celebrities and public figures. People are influenced by celebrities and public figures, people don't like politicians, you should know that.
3. Why would you want a career politician who is so removed from the daily life of society? An athlete lives in the present.
 

fskimospy

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1. I'm not a conservative.
2. Athletes are like everyone else, they pay taxes, etc., but it is that they are celebrities and public figures. People are influenced by celebrities and public figures, people don't like politicians, you should know that.
3. Why would you want a career politician who is so removed from the daily life of society? An athlete lives in the present.
So to be clear you’re saying athletes who were last relevant 20 or 30 years ago live in the present?

Lol. Again, you’re doing such a bad job.
 
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GettyRoad

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So to be clear you’re saying athletes who were last relevant 20 or 30 years ago live in the present?

Lol. Again, you’re doing such a bad job.
They pay taxes, they come on TV/podcasts and give their opinions, Charles Barkley retired 25 years ago and is one of the best sports/social commentators of all time, has a show on primetime show on CNN and wanted to run for Alabama Governor years ago, heck he can win today if he had a coalition of whites and blacks.
 

GettyRoad

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IF that career politician is principled compassionate & intelligent. However, ex sports celebs should all stay out of running for political offices. I know of no exception past or present.
Jack Kemp and Bill Bradley were good politicians.....

You like career politicians.....
 

GettyRoad

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Cincy Bengals Quarterback Joe Burrow would win in Ohio, specifically in the Cincy area...he's one of the few white athletes that care about the plight of the Black community regarding the police brutality/excessive force problem...he won't win rural Ohio because he's too liberal on these issues for them....

 

zinfamous

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I am an American, I was born in New York City. I live in a suburb where a majority of whites are very viscerally patriotic, etc.

"Da, I am white male between ages 58-67, living in the New York city suburbs, I am patriot and the name of my local minister is...."
 

fskimospy

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"Da, I am white male between ages 58-67, living in the New York city suburbs, I am patriot and the name of my local minister is...."
‘As longtime member of New York oblast I must inform you that a race war is in USA interest. Also I love Magnum PI - it is my favorite propaganda broadcast and is very popular in USA.’
 
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Cincy Bengals Quarterback Joe Burrow would win in Ohio, specifically in the Cincy area...he's one of the few white athletes that care about the plight of the Black community regarding the police brutality/excessive force problem...he won't win rural Ohio because he's too liberal on these issues for them....
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nobody wants Joe to run for office.
 

VRAMdemon

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This is what happens when you elect a totally unqualified celebrity like Trump to the precedency. Then you get a segment of the population who think only the rando celebrities with no political experience on their TMZ feed are the best people suited to be President. There is a huge "celebrity culture" and cult of personality that has engulfed the country. Trump is almost unique about making almost meaningless blather appealing to a large base of people, primarily by spreading fear and uncertainty, but also by both feeding the fantasy of their dreams of easy wealth and celebrity. In part this is an extension of “celebrity culture” which awards attention to people just for being famous or outrageous regardless of whether they have experience in politics or anything insightful or particularly interesting to say. All these celebrities championed by dude in this thread have no aspirations of running for office or they would be doing so. It's just pure fantasy. And they most likely think the country is better off run by a unexperienced celebrity like Trump.
 
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fskimospy

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This is what happens when you elect a totally unqualified celebrity like Trump to the precedency. Then you get a segment of the population who think only the rando celebrities with no political experience on their TMZ feed are the best people suited to be President. There is a huge "celebrity culture" and cult of personality that has engulfed the country. Trump is almost unique about making almost meaningless blather appealing to a large base of people, primarily by spreading fear and uncertainty, but also by both feeding the fantasy of their dreams of easy wealth and celebrity. In part this is an extension of “celebrity culture” which awards attention to people just for being famous or outrageous regardless of whether they have experience in politics or anything insightful or particularly interesting to say. All these celebrities championed by dude in this thread have no aspirations of running for office or they would be doing so. It's just pure fantasy. And they most likely think the country is better off run by a unexperienced celebrity like Trump.
I think more than anything Trump is cathartic to his base in that he gives them permission to be their worst selves, something they have wanted to do for a very long time but society never permitted.
 

K1052

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I think more than anything Trump is cathartic to his base in that he gives them permission to be their worst selves, something they have wanted to do for a very long time but society never permitted.

Yeah this is true for some of them. Others are relatively normal people who fell into the conservative media vortex and now live in an alternate reality or worse have basically become monsters.
 
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