You'll get health care in the emergency room for the car accident. It should "hurt" to not have insurance. Can't you see how being able to buy insurance when you need health care can't work?
You'll get health care in the emergency room for the car accident. It should "hurt" to not have insurance. Can't you see how being able to buy insurance when you need health care can't work?So you're a healthy man in his thirties without insurance and you get into a car accident, or get diagnosed with a devastating illness, charity does not step up. What next? You can't pay. Do you get care or not?
Its just a suggestion on how you might get a single Dem vote. And what is a lie?Buck's just holding on to that lie because he's too busy to actually look at footage of Republicans in Congress telling Dems that BRCA (Senate bill) won't have public hearings and won't be open for debate. It's so much easier to blame Democrats for "obstruction"! Hell, Mitch McConnell is thinking of changing Senate rules (again) because Dems may filibuster by amendment.
What I want is as close to a free market system as possible.
I see what you did there.....Can you provide one example of a free market health care system that actually works for everyone? Just one.
"works for everyone"? haha.Can you provide one example of a free market health care system that actually works for everyone? Just one.
"works for everyone"? haha.
Does waiting 47 weeks in Canada for brain surgery work for everyone?
https://www.fraserinstitute.org/studies/waiting-your-turn-wait-times-for-health-care-in-canada-2016Do you have a link or something on Canada? I spent months in Canada and those people said that if you need care quickly, you'll get it. They laughed and called our system a disgrace.
"works for everyone"? haha.
Does waiting 47 weeks in Canada for brain surgery work for everyone?
Yeah don't link to the Fraser Institute if you want to be taken seriously. They are horribly biased.
Health policy analyst Karen Palmer was sitting in on the trial when one of the Fraser Institute's wait-time study researchers was called as an expert witness for the private clinic.
Palmer, an adjunct professor at Simon Fraser University, said the flaws in the reports methodology were exposed under cross-examination from the lawyers representing the B.C. attorney general.
"The Fraser Institute methodology is — and I use the word carefully — an abomination," Lewis said, adding that there's a better way: use real data.
"If you tag a referral to the billing code for an office visit, you can easily calculate the time between seeing the GP and getting referred, and the visit to the specialist," he said.
Yeah, and we're fatter. Acting as if life span is a single variable function is just being dishonest with reality.We've been over this, the people in Canada generally have a higher satisfaction rate with/about care than we do. They live longer too.
Search for 46.9 on the page.Maybe I missed it. Where is the 47 weeks for brain surgery listed in that?
Yeah, and we're fatter. Acting as if life span is a single variable function is just being dishonest with reality.
No, I'm saying that your simple minded approach to what life expectancy means isn't valid. Lots of factors you're ignoring to push your agenda.So if we all on average lose 20-40 pounds we'll live as long as these other place but still pay twice to five times as much is that what you are saying?
No, I'm saying that your simple minded approach to what life expectancy means isn't valid. Lots of factors you're ignoring to push your agenda.
Search for 46.9 on the page.
Fraser Institute studies are horse shit. They are not studies. They are surveys of impressions without using any actual data. They have been brought out in court and summarily dismissed as garbage. I linked earlier to where one of their wait time studies was attempted to be used in court and their methodology was ripped to shreds.Search for 46.9 on the page.
But again, buckshot has about as much chance of reconciling his positions as birdshot does taking down a great white shark.We're just frustrated with each other. I am saying regardless of wait times, they do not appear to effect life expectancy (on average) and the people who go thru Canada's health system rate it better than our, plus its demonstratively less expensive.
Which also brings up how you appear to hate the ACA but keep going back to short wait times. I find it frustrating that you claim to hate what we have in one thread then in another thread its super awesome. I'm sure this is just a perspective thing on my end.
Bump.Fraser Institute studies are horse shit. They are not studies. They are surveys of impressions without using any actual data. They have been brought out in court and summarily dismissed as garbage. I linked earlier to where one of their wait time studies was attempted to be used in court and their methodology was ripped to shreds.
I've missed you.But again, buckshot has about as much chance of reconciling his positions as birdshot does taking down a great white shark.
What are the actual wait times then?Fraser Institute studies are horse shit. They are not studies. They are surveys of impressions without using any actual data. They have been brought out in court and summarily dismissed as garbage. I linked earlier to where one of their wait time studies was attempted to be used in court and their methodology was ripped to shreds.
Search for 46.9 on the page.