Republicans And the Big Government

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Republicans and Big Government
by James Ostrowski

George W. Bush's State of the Union address must have baffled anyone who voted for him based on his pledge to cut the size of government. That speech has been properly and efficiently pilloried by Joseph Stromberg, Alan Bock, and others. The speech was both Wilsonian and Clintonian, which is to say that it proposed a political solution for all human problems and backed this idea with a promise of massive increases in federal spending on just about everything.

But should we really be so surprised? Contrary to popular myth, every Republican president since and including Herbert Hoover has increased the federal government's size, scope, or power--and usually all three. Over the last one hundred years, of the five presidents who presided over the largest domestic spending increases, four were Republicans. Include regulations and foreign policy, as well as budgets approved by a Republican Congress, and a picture begins to emerge of the Republican Party as a reliable engine of government growth.

Herbert Hoover 1929-1933

+ Increased federal spending 38 percent (current dollars)
+ Passed the Agricultural Marketing Act (welfare for farmers)
+ Passed the Hawley-Smoot Tariff
+ Waged war on drugs (alcohol)
+ Passed the Reconstruction Finance Corporation (pork and corporate welfare)
+ Passed massive tax increases

Dwight Eisenhower 1953-1961

+ Increased federal spending 30 percent
+ Created Department of Health, Education, & Welfare (and spending)
+ Put Earl Warren and William Brennan on Supreme Court
+ Helped install Shah Pahlevi in Iran (smart, real smart)
+ Extended Social Security to 10 million additional persons
+ Started American involvement in Vietnam
+ Passed federal highway legislation
+ Created NASA
+ Started student loan program (aka, program to raise college tuition so no one can afford it)
+ Kept federal counterfeiting to a minimum, causing you to lose only 9 cents off your 1952 dollar (Source: The Inflation Calculator)

Richard Nixon 1969-1974

+ Increased federal spending 70 percent
+ Created EPA, OSHA, and CPSC
+ Started "affirmative action"
+ Imposed price and wage controls
+ Made your 1968 dollar worth just 78 cents by the time he left office
+ Proposed minimum national income

Gerald Ford 1974-1977

+ Knocked 8 cents off your dollar in just two years [He didn't WIN (Whip Inflation Now]
+ Increased federal spending throughout term
+ Reduced spending on federal prisons by pardoning Nixon
+ Overall, not too bad for a Republican and better than...

Ronald Reagan 1981-1989

+ Increased federal spending 53 percent
+ Elevated Veteran's Administration
+ Added 250,000 civilian (government) employees
+ Created drug czar's office
+ Escalated war on drugs
+ "Saved" Social Security by increasing payroll tax
+ Lowered the value of your 1980 dollar to 73 cents

George Herbert Walker Bush 1989-1993

+ Increased federal spending 12 percent
+ Signed the (litigious) Americans with Disabilities Act
+ Managed to knock 13 cents off the value of your dollar in just four years
+ Just said "Yes" to new taxes

Republican Congress

+ Held your dollar's loss in value to a mere 11 cents [Newt and the (1995-2000) gang]
+ Increased federal spending and taxes collected each year
+ Eviscerated ancient right of Englishmen and Americans--habeas corpus
+ Flunked the acid test of economic sanity--raising the minimum wage (mandatory unemployment law)
+ Passed Freedom to Farm Act (at taxpayers' expense, that is)

George Bush II continues this inglorious tradition. He proposes a huge increase in defence spending: "My budget includes the largest increase in defence spending in two decades, because while the price of freedom and security is high, it is never too high: whatever it costs to defend our country, we will pay it."

"Never too high" is a good description of the federal budget under Republican presidents. "Defend our country" is a prevarication. We all know the purpose of the defence budget is to maintain a global military empire--the same thing, by the way, that stirs up terrorism and is a magnet for terrorist hatreds.

Yes, all this new spending was spurred on by the events of September 11. First, by all accounts, we already have the strongest military in the world. Why expand it? If we need more troops at home, there are plenty doing nothing guarding Japan, a country with no enemies. Second, there is always a crisis that justifies an increase in spending. If there isn't a real crisis, they will invent one or provoke one. The point is, if you really "trust the people, not the government," you will respond to crises by supporting more individual freedom and less government.

Third, the world did not begin on September 11. Our 104-year-old policy of global intervention has made many enemies. What is happening now is a textbook example of how government grows. Government intervenes into some aspect of life, domestic or foreign, where it doesn't belong. It screws it up good, creates problems that would not otherwise exist, and then uses its powerful propaganda machine to disguise the true cause of the problem and convince people that even more government action is required. To paraphrase Ludwig von Mises, government creates its own demand.

Now for the welfare part of the welfare/warfare state. Lyndon Johnson was less interested in fighting a socialist state abroad than he was in creating a socialist state at home, but he fought the Vietnam War anyway to appear tough on communism, protect his right flank, and stay in power. Bush is the opposite. These days, Bush is focused on foreign policy. But to win in '04, he must protect his left flank and dole out the welfare. So, he recently said:
Quote:
I support extending unemployment benefits and direct assistance for health care coverage. We need to prepare our children to read and succeed in school with improved Head Start and early childhood development programs. We must upgrade our teacher colleges and teacher training and launch a major recruiting drive with a great goal for America: a quality teacher in every classroom. Americans know economic security can vanish in an instant without health security. I ask Congress to join me this year to enact a Patients' Bill of Rights, to give uninsured workers credits to help buy health coverage, to approve an historic increase in spending for veterans' health, and to give seniors a sound and modern Medicare system that includes coverage for prescription drugs.

Even FDR would be blushing at this point in the speech.

Bush doesn't neglect welfare for the heartland, either. He promises to ask Congress "to enact new safeguards for 401(k) and pension plans, because employees who have worked hard and saved all their lives should not have to risk losing everything if their company fails." I don't know what that means, but once government gets its foot in the door, you know it is going to make matters worse and end up socializing all pensions. Bush promises a "productive farm policy." I don't know what that means, either, but I know my pocket is going to be picked somewhere along the line. The only productive farm policy is, of course, laissez-faire.

Those who support small-"r", Jeffersonian republican government would agree with some of the words spoken by the president: "Evil is real, and it must be opposed. . . . Rarely has the world faced a choice more clear or consequential. . . . We choose freedom and the dignity of every life."

Libertarian republicans believe this; conservative Republicans do not, never have, and never will. They are having too much fun down there in Washington running their domestic and global empires.


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Wow, I always though the gipper and the bushies were major spender but I am amazed?

How does the anti-left myth of them wanting big government keep getting carried on generation to generation.

repblicans are the biggest welfare and big government party I could imagine.

All I have to say for the conservatives is: Ever get the feeling you've been cheated?
 

ElFenix

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there are no real liberals anymore. at least, not in government.

limited government, of course, means limited in functions, not necessarily spending. see article 1, section 8.
 

Steeplerot

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what do libs have to do with the post? please read before comment, it's a good piece.

No partisan crap. I am saving that for my other thread thx.
 

Bowfinger

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But ... but ... but ... Tax and spend Democrats. Tax and spend Democrats. Breathe. Must get in my happy place. Tax and spend Democrats. Breathe. Breathe. Tax and spend Democrats. Iraq attacked us on 9/11. Activist judiciary. War on terrah. Culture of life. It's all Clinton's fault. Breathe. Calming. Calming. Clear skies. PATRIOT. Family values. You're with us or you support the terrorists. Tax and spend Democrats. Tax and spend Democrats. Ahhhhhhh.

Whew! That was a close one.

 

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Originally posted by: Bowfinger
But ... but ... but ... Tax and spend Democrats. Tax and spend Democrats. Breathe. Must get in my happy place. Tax and spend Democrats. Breathe. Breathe. Tax and spend Democrats. Iraq attacked us on 9/11. Activist judiciary. War on terrah. Culture of life. It's all Clinton's fault. Breathe. Calming. Calming. Clear skies. PATRIOT. Family values. You're with us or you support the terrorists. Tax and spend Democrats. Tax and spend Democrats. Ahhhhhhh.

Whew! That was a close one.


Brother Bowfinger! Let it out! TESTIFY!!
 

1EZduzit

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Republicans, republicans, republicans, they like a big, powerful, federal goverment that puts the interests of business over the interests of the people. According to them, you live to work, not work to live.

WAKE UP PEOPLE!
 

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Originally posted by: Steeplerot
what do libs have to do with the post? please read before comment, it's a good piece.

No partisan crap. I am saving that for my other thread thx.

If you knew what a (classical) liberal really was, you would understand his comment.
 

Cerb

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Originally posted by: ciba
Originally posted by: Steeplerot
what do libs have to do with the post? please read before comment, it's a good piece.

No partisan crap. I am saving that for my other thread thx.
If you knew what a (classical) liberal really was, you would understand his comment.
 

Dissipate

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It is still absolutely amazing to me that there are still people going around today believing that Republicans are for smaller government and are pro-capitalism.

I finally got my dad to reject this absurd notion, after 30 years of being involved with the Republican Party and politics.
 

Steeplerot

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Originally posted by: ciba
Originally posted by: Steeplerot
what do libs have to do with the post? please read before comment, it's a good piece.

No partisan crap. I am saving that for my other thread thx.

If you knew what a (classical) liberal really was, you would understand his comment.


You think there is a classic definition of a lib/progressive? hehe, sure.
What a load of tripe. There is no definition of a "liberal" just look at a few movements around america in the 20th century, here's a few related to music and such I have studied. you got- beatniks,hippies, diggers,punks,industrial/batcave, etc etc etc just to name a few.

The moment conservative/commercial sorts labeled one of these groups is the moment the group has lost legitamcy and the movement moved on to something else.

You can't label a legitimate movement, the greatest part of the whole thing is the conservatives are too out of it to catch on to anything cool until it has run it's course.

classic liberal my ass hahaha, go ahead, you are defining a shadow.

Not to mention leftist types come in so many varities of vegan non-vegan, violent squatter punk to cappicunino sipping pseudo-yuppies you have to be joking bwahahaha!

But one thing they all have in common, a hope to move the world forward, they are all progressives, and far cooler then some stuffy assh0le who just want's you to turn out to be the same boring dumbass his parents were and buy into the status-quo of greed.

You can't define something that always changes, you can catch a snapshot of a historical period but your always stuck in the past, hence the name conservatives.
 
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It's been said that the Democrats are the party of big government and the Republicans are the party of even bigger government.

One of the intersting things about the job market reports is that many supposed capitalists cheer reports about how many jobs are being generated and then go on to claim that the economy is strong and getting stronger. But wait...most of the jobs that were generated over the past couple years were...government jobs!!! The economy gained few jobs (almost none) in the private sector during the Bush Administration. The irony is that the people who claim to support a free market would regard a growth in the government as being good--as though it's good sign for the economy.

 

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I find it hard to believe we're creating roughly 200,000 government jobs a month. You have linky?
 

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Originally posted by: nardvark
I find it hard to believe we're creating roughly 200,000 government jobs a month. You have linky?

200,000 barely covers the increase in population
 

Bowfinger

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Originally posted by: nardvark
I find it hard to believe we're creating roughly 200,000 government jobs a month. You have linky?
Don't forget we spent nearly four years in the employment hole under Bush. The 200K new jobs per month is a relatively recent trend. Government job growth helped mitigate the huge job losses in the private sector.
 
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Originally posted by: Steeplerot
what do libs have to do with the post? please read before comment, it's a good piece.

No partisan crap. I am saving that for my other thread thx.
Your thread rants on Republicans and you request "no partisan crap"?

Now how silly is that?
 

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Repulicans are bad news, like the frat you were too nerdy to join, you're never really a republican even if you vote aka "rush" for one. They pretty much lie and use hate to get elected with fancy slogans then do the exact opposite, enrich thier frat buddies with govt contracts, immumity from lawsuits, not you, and work on setting up life long garanteed payments for themselves from the poor and middle class in tbills/debt.

 

Steeplerot

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I hear you there. the fratboy bully club, who can be at the top of the good 'ol boy dogpile.
 

Steeplerot

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Nowhere as silly as just about anything you post. save the partisan crap for my elitests thread, or read the article and quit your delesional stereotypes TLC kthx.

 

Zebo

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Steep, don't forget all the gun legislation the pubs passed.. Almost every gun right was taken under thier leadership..
 
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Well then keep trodding down your idealistically clueless path then, buddy boy. I'm sure if anyone gets in your way you'll just whoop them upside the head with your tire chain. :roll:
 

Zebo

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Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
Well then keep trodding down your idealistically clueless path then, buddy boy. I'm sure if anyone gets in your way you'll just whoop them upside the head with your tire chain. :roll:

He's gonna have to use a chain since Republican Arnie took his right to cap them at 1000yrds by banning 50cals
 
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Originally posted by: Zebo
Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
Well then keep trodding down your idealistically clueless path then, buddy boy. I'm sure if anyone gets in your way you'll just whoop them upside the head with your tire chain. :roll:

He's gonna have to use a chain since Republican Arnie took his right to cap them at 1000yrds by banning 50cals
Or maybe it's just lousy aim as the "Aunties" always seems to be so busy shooting themselves in the foot?
 
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