Republicans losing the public battle on abortion so what do they do? CHEAT!

HomerJS

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Public backlash against Republicans on their attempt to ban or severely restrict abortion is looking like a loser for them so their next tactic is to rig the game so voters won't have a say in the issue.

Ohio. Attempting to change the ballot initiative rules so 60% is required to pass instead of 50%


Florida tried to change the ballot initiative requirements to 67% but at least that failed in the Senate.
 

cytg111

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Wait, so first they gerrymander so its 60/40 ... and now with their 40% representation they make it so the 60% has to deliver another 60% at the ballot? What's the math on that, a 30% minority rule right there?
 

Moonbeam

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Nothing will ever be solved until the American people wake up to the fact that Republicans stand for self destructive chaos. The fact is that people are so deeply asleep and live in such inner misery that they unconsciously seek out chaos as a substitute for real life. "If I can't be happy, why should you?" To be or not to be? That is the question we seek never to consciously consider.
 
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MrSquished

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Oh my goodness more Republicans are fucking evil exhibits.

I think more and more people are waking up to the fact that these people at this point are completely irredeemable and damage goods for life.

Let the naive fuckers survive on our coattails, It's time to start accepting reality.
 
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Nothing will ever be solved until the American people wake up to the fact that Republicans stand for self destructive chaos. The fact is that people are so deeply asleep and live in such inner misery that they unconsciously seek out chaos as a substitute for real life. "If I can't be happy, why should you?" To be or not to be? That is the question we seek never to consciously consider.

Another weirdly introspective post by Moonbeam. Of course, since he suffers from the same mental impairment that conservatives do, that mix of self absorption and yet lacking entirely in self reflection just highlights his nonsensical thoughts. That last line especially is just chef's kiss perfect summation of everything Moonbeam. Every gun, every bullet, you've bought has supported Republicans. You are how this happened.
 

Moonbeam

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I think more and more people are waking up to the fact that these people at this point are completely irredeemable and damage goods for life.
Which is why in my opinion you should calm down. They are toast and there's no need for you to blow a gasket yelling about how you need somebody to save you from them. Liberals remain rational in the face of unpleasant emotional experiences, the real ones, that is. Everything is going to be fine. Don't fear because it will cause you to become just that. Nasturally to express fear is fine in therapy and is part of accurate self realization. It is really true that what we fear is fear itself.
 

MrSquished

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Which is why in my opinion you should calm down. They are toast and there's no need for you to blow a gasket yelling about how you need somebody to save you from them. Liberals remain rational in the face of unpleasant emotional experiences, the real ones, that is. Everything is going to be fine. Don't fear because it will cause you to become just that. Nasturally to express fear is fine in therapy and is part of accurate self realization. It is really true that what we fear is fear itself.

I'm not sure if you just haven't read a history book ever or if you have and then you burned history books in your backyard while dancing around holding your guns in a ritual to erase your memory from actual history.

You have an absolutely non-existing grasp of human history.
 

gothuevos

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Doesn't the GOP have a supermajority in that state legislature? They will probably just ignore the will of the people if that measure gets voted down, kind of similar to what happened in Kansas (?) with Medicaid expansion.

The OH legislature already ignored their state supreme court with respect to having to draw fair maps. Why would they give a fuck what their residents say?
 

Moonbeam

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I'm not sure if you just haven't read a history book ever or if you have and then you burned history books in your backyard while dancing around holding your guns in a ritual to erase your memory from actual history.

You have an absolutely non-existing grasp of human history.
You mean the history where some conservative says boo and you pee in your pants? Have you tried fondling a gun? It will calm you right down. You can have an orgasm racking a slide.
 

MrSquished

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You mean the history where some conservative says boo and you pee in your pants? Have you tried fondling a gun? It will calm you right down. You can have an orgasm racking a slide.

Apparently it was the latter.

You know world history, where nationalist movements and other types of similar movements have taken over countless nations in all parts of the world at all times of history and killed hundreds of millions of people and oppressed the hell out of many more.

You are a total ignoramus and wear it proudly.
 
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MrSquished

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You mean the history where some conservative says boo and you pee in your pants? Have you tried fondling a gun? It will calm you right down. You can have an orgasm racking a slide.

I did also want to add that I think your attitude is kind of disgusting. We have teenage rape victims having to cross state lines to get an abortion. We have women nearly bleeding to death due to an unhealthy pregnancy because of a lack of abortion access. We had asylum seekers being separated from their kids just for being asylum seekers, We have oppression against the LGBT community, We have anti-Semit, We have mass shootings everywhere, and to you this is conservatives just saying boo? Why don't you tell that to those people dude.

You're no liberal bro. You're a gun nut and that's it
 
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gothuevos

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I did also want to add that I think your attitude is kind of disgusting. We have teenage rape victims having to cross state lines to get an abortion. We have women nearly bleeding to death due to an unhealthy pregnancy because of a lack of abortion access. We had asylum seekers being separated from their kids just for being asylum seekers, We have oppression against the LGBT community, We have anti-Semit, We have mass shootings everywhere, and to you this is conservatives just saying boo? Why don't you tell that to those people dude.

You're no liberal bro. You're a gun nut and that's it

??

What are you even talking about? Did you quote the wrong person?
 

Moonbeam

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I did also want to add that I think your attitude is kind of disgusting. We have teenage rape victims having to cross state lines to get an abortion. We have women nearly bleeding to death due to an unhealthy pregnancy because of a lack of abortion access. We had asylum seekers being separated from their kids just for being asylum seekers, We have oppression against the LGBT community, We have anti-Semit, We have mass shootings everywhere, and to you this is conservatives just saying boo? Why don't you tell that to those people dude.

You're no liberal bro. You're a gun nut and that's it
Two things. Republicans are deeply sick and dangerous. Republicans are afraid. Their whole ideology is also dying.

here's some history for you, specific and relevant to the point:

 

HomerJS

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Now Pubs going to court to stop the ballot initiative. I have to give Republicans credit for chutzpah in their persistent position of going against the will of the people.

 

gothuevos

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The GOP supermajority in the Ohio state legislature will just ignore their own supreme court, like they ignored them when instructed to draw fair maps. And/or they will ignore the outcome of Issue 1.
 

hal2kilo

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Have a stealth candidate run in NC......I so want to use a misogynous term for this person. Oh and speaking of stealth candidates, Fl out does em all.
 
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Today is the special election that decides if Republicans get to cheat on the upcoming ballot initiative.
Without looking, I am betting they only need a majority to pass, not 60%...

As I understand it the initiative is horribly unpopular in Ohio anyway.
 

K1052

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Ohio Rs burned a shitload of money and political capital on this and looks like a pretty sound rejection. A lot of the messaging was anti-trans scare mongering stuff too and like the midterms that dog just ain't hunting. If the Rs run on nothing but Trump and trans scare bullshit for 2024 not likely to turn out well for them generally I think.
 
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