Republicans, please explain the Behghazi outrage to me

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If you followed this at all I would be defending the CIA

but don't let a fact get in your way..

But it was obama who was the one who started it since he said the future doesn't belong to those who slander the prophet of Islam


You have revealed yourself to be a pure partisan hack
 

HomerJS

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But it was obama who was the one who started it since he said the future doesn't belong to those who slander the prophet of Islam


You have revealed yourself to be a pure partisan hack

and you are ugly, so there!

since you have devolved to a string of rambling non-sequiturs
 

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http://www.mediaite.com/tv/sen-john...two-movies-been-made-about-getting-bin-laden/

All McCain's Benghazi questions already answered by Accountability Review Board months ago. Nothing at all substantial that should really require this level of outrage, media attention or frankly hearings.

Rest of the Sunday shows today all admit the clear reality that Benghazi Clinton hearings were a complete dud in that nothing new was learned.

lol Benghazi.
 

rudder

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Hey OP.... have you figured out the reason behind the Benghazi outrage yet? I mean maybe there was something else other than the CIA starting a little covert war....which likely led to the killing of the ambassador which was followed by the let all be quiet about this white house response.
 

monovillage

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Hey OP.... have you figured out the reason behind the Benghazi outrage yet? I mean maybe there was something else other than the CIA starting a little covert war....which likely led to the killing of the ambassador which was followed by the let all be quiet about this white house response.

I've pretty much let this thread lapse even though there's new evidence and testimony and even an e- book about this major fuck up by Obama and his administration. Not in chronological order.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887324880504578295701078826488.html

But there are standards. If Americans are under attack, presidential attention must be paid. Due diligence must be demonstrated. A president must take care that his administration does everything it can do. On Sept. 11, 2012, as Americans were under attack in Benghazi, Libya, President Obama failed in his basic responsibility as president and commander in chief. In a crisis, the president went AWOL.Thanks to the congressional testimony of outgoing Defense Secretary Leon Panetta and Joint Chiefs of Staff Chairman Gen. Martin Dempsey late last week, we know they met with President Obama on Sept. 11 at 5 p.m. in a pre-scheduled meeting, when they informed the president about the attack on the U.S. consulate in Benghazi. The meeting lasted about a half-hour. Mr. Panetta said they spent roughly 20 minutes of the session briefing the president on the chaos at the American Embassy in Cairo and the attack in Benghazi, which eventually cost the lives of Ambassador Christopher Stevens, security personnel Glen Doherty and Tyrone Woods, and information officer Sean Smith.

Secretary Panetta said the president left operational details, including determination of what resources were available to help the Americans under siege, "up to us." We also learned that President Obama did not communicate in any way with Mr. Panetta or Gen. Dempsey the rest of that evening or that night. Indeed, Mr. Panetta and Gen. Dempsey testified they had no further contact at all with anyone in the White House that evening—or, for that matter, with Secretary of State Hillary Clinton.

That's not all we discovered. We now know that despite Gen. Dempsey having been informed of Ambassador Stevens's repeated warnings about the rise of terrorist elements in Benghazi, no forces were put in place or made ready nearby to respond to possible trouble. It also seems that during the actual attacks in Benghazi, which the administration followed in real time and which lasted for some eight hours, not a single major military asset was deployed to help rescue Americans under assault.

And we learned one other thing: Messrs. Panetta and Dempsey both knew on the night of the assault that it was a terrorist attack. This didn't prevent President Obama, Secretary Clinton and U.N. Ambassador Susan Rice from peddling a false version of events in the days and even weeks that followed, as the administration called the incident spontaneous, said there was no evidence of a coordinated terrorist attack and blamed the violence on an anti-Muslim video. So the White House, having failed to ensure that anything was done during the attack, went on to mislead the nation afterward.


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http://www.nypost.com/p/news/opinio...et_war_behind_benghazi_mKbP26KAwILn2KKMs8NIWM

What really happened in Benghazi?

Ambassador Chris Stevens and three other Americans were killed in the attack on the US consulate because of a secret low-level war in which American hit squads took out leaders of al Qaeda militias, which retaliated in Benghazi. There was never a protest at the consulate over the infamous anti-Islamist YouTube video.

So says the new 80-page e-book, “Benghazi: The Definitive Report” (William Morrow) by Jack Murphy and Brandon Webb, two military veterans who specialize in reporting about clandestine operations at the website SOFREP.com. Their book, which they say is based on interviews with well-placed security types but contains virtually no checkable sourcing, is loaded with explosive allegations.The fall of Moammar Khadafy presented a tricky situation for us: Khadafy, though a despot to his own people, had nevertheless been cooperating with the US, which among other favors was granted the right to use Libyan territory for CIA black sites.

Moreover, the opposition to Khadafy wasn’t exactly led by a gang of Libyan George Washingtons. Many of the rebel leaders were sharia-loving members of al Qaeda who had come from jihadist strongholds in the cities of Derna and Benghazi, which are so tied up in Islamist fundamentalism that they were major exporters of guerilla warriors who fought the US in Iraq.

Having helped to engineer the ouster of Khadafy with air strikes left Obama with the problem of a revitalized al Qaeda springing up to fill the void.

Obama gave his chief counterterrorism advisor, John Brennan, who is now the nominee to be the next leader of the CIA, a blank check. Brennan could do just about whatever he needed to do in North Africa and the Mideast, contend Murphy and Webb. Brennan chose to conduct a dangerous classified war without looping in Stevens, who paid with his life for his ignorance, according to the book.

The Joint Special Operations Command, which Brennan controls, is a collection of special forces outside of the regular military command originally formed as a hostage-rescue team. But in the middle of last summer, say Murphy and Webb, troops operating clandestinely under JSOC began infiltrating Libya.

“With the first phase of the Global War on Terror (GWOT) all but over,” say Murphy and Webb, “JSOC was starting in on ‘GWOT Season 2,’ as it were, where North Africa was seen as the most dangerous hub of terrorist activity.” Murphy and Webb go on to make a shocking charge: “The nature of these operations remains highly classified. They were never intended to be known to anyone outside a very small circle in the Special Operations community and within Obama’s National Security Council. Ambassador Stevens, the CIA chief of station in Tripoli and then-director of the CIA, Gen. [David] Petraeus, had little if any knowledge about these JSOC missions.”
 

Charles Kozierok

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Republicans seem to care 1,000 times more about 4 Americans who died from a screwup
in Libya than they do about 4,000+ Americans who died due to a deliberate fraud of a war.
 

monovillage

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Republicans seem to care 1,000 times more about 4 Americans who died from a screwup
in Libya than they do about 4,000+ Americans who died due to a deliberate fraud of a war.

Go fuck yourself chuckie. You going to be slithering out of your hole to shit in other threads?
 

Charles Kozierok

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Go fuck yourself chuckie. You going to be slithering out of your hole to shit in other threads?

Temper, temper, mon capitaine.

Let's face reality: the "Benghazi outrage" is pure partisan politics. The one and only reason the GOP keeps going on about it is because they think it is somehow going to hurt Obama. They lurch from one thing to another in this regard, wasting weeks or months on what they are sure is "the thing" that will bring down his administration or make it impossible for him to win re-election, and they are always amazed that nobody gives a crap about their manufactured controversies but their own echo chamber.

I feel pretty confident that the GOP doesn't really give a shit about four people who died in Libya. If Benghazi had happened during a Republican administration, not one of the Republicans howling about it for the last N months would have uttered a peep.
 

monovillage

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Temper, temper, mon capitaine.

Let's face reality: the "Benghazi outrage" is pure partisan politics. The one and only reason the GOP keeps going on about it is because they think it is somehow going to hurt Obama. They lurch from one thing to another in this regard, wasting weeks or months on what they are sure is "the thing" that will bring down his administration or make it impossible for him to win re-election, and they are always amazed that nobody gives a crap about their manufactured controversies but their own echo chamber.

I feel pretty confident that the GOP doesn't really give a shit about four people who died in Libya. If Benghazi had happened during a Republican administration, not one of the Republicans howling about it for the last N months would have uttered a peep.

It's one reason, but not the only reason.

I feel confident that many of the GOP and conservatives (including myself) do care about Benghazi, our ambassador and even our non-military private corp "enforcers".

Just because the partisan Democrats would rather play stonewall and cover-up for this President doesn't mean his political opponents should shut up or be forced to remain silent.
 
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Temper, temper, mon capitaine.

Let's face reality: the "Benghazi outrage" is pure partisan politics. The one and only reason the GOP keeps going on about it is because they think it is somehow going to hurt Obama. They lurch from one thing to another in this regard, wasting weeks or months on what they are sure is "the thing" that will bring down his administration or make it impossible for him to win re-election, and they are always amazed that nobody gives a crap about their manufactured controversies but their own echo chamber.

I feel pretty confident that the GOP doesn't really give a shit about four people who died in Libya. If Benghazi had happened during a Republican administration, not one of the Republicans howling about it for the last N months would have uttered a peep.

So 4 Americans are murdered and people shouldn't care about this? obama is responsible for this, We never should have went into Libya and we didn't even declare war with the congress, obama had no authority to go into Libya. We helped arm and support the same terrorists who were the ones that were killing Americans in Iraq!

The media played a big role as well, They dont care about innocent Americans getting killed, its more important that obama gets elected.

And you think his supporters care? NO! They are too ignorant to even realize what happened, the typical voter just wants the welfare cheques to keep rolling in



 

monovillage

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It's the only reason that the issue has been blown out of all proportion to the degree that it has.

I disagree, if it would have happened under a Republican administration we would have been deluged with media investigations instead of the minor dribble we got.
 

*kjm

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Let me predict that Walker is a one term Gov that's if he doesn't get incarcerated first.....


Please don’t post anymore…. You’re just giving us more reason for home schooling and you will ultimately lose your job that way! No way in hell are my kids going to learn anything from you..... you sir are a true nutbag!
 
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Please don’t post anymore…. You’re just giving us more reason for home schooling and you will ultimately lose your job that way! No way in hell are my kids going to learn anything from you..... you sir are a true nutbag!

He is a teacher Now that explains everything and makes it much more clear
 

rudder

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It's the only reason that the issue has been blown out of all proportion to the degree that it has.

Yes it is all political. Let us forget that the current CIA director nominee took upon himself to start some rogue operation in Libya. Which probably led to the death of the ambassador of Libya. This was done without the knowledge of the then direction Gen. Patraeus... who was busy bonking his biographer. Which everyone knew about... but were saving this knowledge until a time when whoever needed him gone. Now brennan is trying to be the top dog at the CIA. Then you have the White House who have been stonewalling investigators...

Do you not see anything wrong with this situation? or is it just dems vs. republicans as usual?
 

monovillage

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Yes it is all political. Let us forget that the current CIA director nominee took upon himself to start some rogue operation in Libya. Which probably led to the death of the ambassador of Libya. This was done without the knowledge of the then direction Gen. Patraeus... who was busy bonking his biographer. Which everyone knew about... but were saving this knowledge until a time when whoever needed him gone. Now brennan is trying to be the top dog at the CIA. Then you have the White House who have been stonewalling investigators...

Do you not see anything wrong with this situation? or is it just dems vs. republicans as usual?

You forgot the Secretary of State nominee who was told lies to go out and tell, although no one knows who told the lies or how they came about or who changed the script and then got tossed under the buss by a grateful Obama with a "Thanks hon for being such a stooge *kissy kissy*"
 

Jhhnn

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You forgot the Secretary of State nominee who was told lies to go out and tell, although no one knows who told the lies or how they came about or who changed the script and then got tossed under the buss by a grateful Obama with a "Thanks hon for being such a stooge *kissy kissy*"

Such a troll, whining over getting what you wanted, which was Rice out of the running for SoS....

I suppose you wanted a pony with that, and Obama's resignation, too...

The whole thing has devolved into sour grapes whining by Righties whose fluffed up "scandal" turned out not to be much of a scandal, just another tragedy they failed to exploit to its fullest.
 
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