Yes, I know. As I said multiple times. And clarified that I wasn't referring to the video in question, but in response to a specific post from a specific member.
To further clarify: I think arming children for self defense is a dumb idea. I think age-appropriate (determined by the parent) children training with an age-appropriate weapon for the purpose of being able to put food on the table as an young adult may not be as dumb an idea as it would immediately seem to the types of people who frequent ATP&N.
Sorry, that's largely bullshit. I'm not disputing that people hunt for food some (yes, that is common), but it absolutely is not even remotely close to being a significant source of food even in really rural areas. I fucking grew up in areas like that (I grew up on a farm, and we didn't even get most of our food from it although we did get milk, some eggs, and produce that way; that town had maybe 200 people and the next closest town half an hour away wasn't much more populated and had a "grocery store" that was smaller than a 7-11 - so about 1-2 times a month a trip to a town an hour away that had actual grocery stores was made and lots of canned food and the like was bought; I then grew up in a Midwest town of a few thousand with lots of agriculture and I didn't know of
anyone that got more than maybe 10% of their food from hunting, and even then most of it was from people selling the deer meat to the butcher, not doing all of the hunting themselves). I'm sure there are areas where it does make a bigger portion, but that's because those people have mental health issues, are paranoid of the government and either refuse to use public assistance programs, or live in states that intentionally fuck them over due to their Republican ideological bullshit. And even then, churches and other organizations in those regions supply them with a hell of a lot more food than apparently some of you people realize.
I have no problem with people in rural areas saying that guns are still important because of wild animals and hunting, but pushing yet another fucking horseshit claim that its nearly life or death for so many I will not put up with because its a shit argument that doesn't hold true. The only people getting a significant portion of their food from hunting are wealthy people that choose to live that way (and even then, most of the food they consume they very probably did not themselves do the hunting).
That you hear about people in apparently such dire nutritional situation and your response is "they need guns!" and not, "wait, we have programs specifically to help people get food, someone show them how to get on those" or "we need to make sure that they get a proper amount of food" is absurd. That is also yet another reason why I support us completely overhauling our health care system, as malnutrition is a serious problem that affects many Americans (and is a health issue), but its for factors that make no fucking sense in a modern world. We have the resources to make it a non-issue (here for sure). Its goddamned ridiculous that this is something people feel is a legitimate argument.
Now maybe you aren't actually making all those claims, but like I said, I'm sick of this argument, especially when those same people that see often make it are the ones trying to keep people from being able to get food assistance and other necessities (not saying you are, just that its very common). I guess my point being, that argument is hyperbolic and largely doesn't hold up, and doubly irritates me because its often touted by people opposed to social initiatives that addresses the problem much better.
How stupid are these guys, that they don't see this as a troll from Sasha? I mean just how dumb? Or are they living in a world where this is an actual, plausible solution?
This. Seriously. Remember when the right tried to castigate Wexler for going on the Colbert show and knowing it was a comedy show said that he "liked to do cocaine and visit prostitutes because its a fun thing to do"? I've said it before, that's why Fox News felt justified in ratcheting up their bullshit, because they think that people genuinely can't tell the comedic parts of stuff like the Daily Show or Colbert Report from the legitimate stuff, because they themselves can't. Likewise for that one piece of shit that makes those full of shit videos where he edits them to make it seem like it was completely different and then tries to claim it as truth.