Republicans want to seal the Florida ballots!

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cxim

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I know a few of the Palm Beach Ballots were looked at a few weeks ago...

Prior to this election, ballots have not been not reviewed.
 

Shuxclams

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Whining? about what? Look I voted for neither and am only intrested in keeping the Goverment in check and not allowing them to hide, close, modify, censor or seal any documents that the Public should have the right to view and/or study, if you dont see it that why then fine, but this isnt about Gore vs. Bush its about freedom vs. goverment. So shut up.



SHUX
 

Harvey

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AndrewR -- <<The decision has been made, whether or not Democratic whiners-extraordinaire want to admit it. NOTHING, repeat NOTHING is gained by a recount either way.>>

YOU are the whiner, here. Your buddies have the White House, and nothing will change that. What's the matter, WHINER ???? Afraid of the truth, are you?
 

Russ

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Ah, it warms the cockles of the heart to see the democrats writhing in agony this way. A tiny, yet persistent squeaky little scream of pain in to the wilderness of despair.

Their boy flunked the exam even after he was handed the cheat sheet. It must really hurt.

And I thought there would be no mirth once the election was over.

Russ, NCNE
 

JellyBaby

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I for one would not want any news agency counting official public ballots. They would inevitably seek to create a news story and as AndrewR was first to point out here, count with biased intent. I?d go further and say I don?t want Ds or Rs to count ballots ever again but that?s just wishful thinking for now.
 

Shuxclams

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<< it warms the cockles of the heart >>



You have one of those? Geez and to think all this time I thought you were a heartless bastard... Haha...j/k'ing





SHUX
 

chess9

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Russ:

You are right that Gore flunked the exam, but that's about the only thing you've said that's true in two weeks.

Andrew:

Getting a little apoplectic are we, eh, Andrew? Better hit the weight room bud. When your fingers get bigger than your neck, like a lot of these geeks, you won't be able to walk into any gym.

Anyway, if it doesn't matter, let someone count the votes. And why have you decided that the methodology would be standardless? I doubt that a standardless methodology would have much credibility with anyone. The notion that counting the ballots will change them some way is also nonsense. If a chad is punched through it might fall out, but that is a vote anyway. Those not punched through won't fall out.

Everyone, except the apologists for the Republican Party, sees this transparent ploy for what it is worth-a shameless attempt by the Republicans to protect Bush and the U.S. Supreme Court.

If Bush lost in Florida the American people have a right to know and be indignant about it. Furthermore, I think the press organizations will raise cain with the Republicans if they try to stop the recount. I'd expect a lot more lawyering and opinions to be read.

With Republicans, an abuse of power is guaranteed, and this is just one more blatant example.

Some day the American people will wake up and discover they've been swindled by the shysters and thieves from the Republican Party, but since a sucker is born every minute, I won't hold my breath.

CXIM:

Do have a reference for your assertions regarding the sealing of the ballots? I didn't think so.
 

etech

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Chess9
&quot; I doubt that a standardless methodology would have much credibility with anyone. &quot;


BINGO[/i]

 

Russ

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<< I doubt that a standardless methodology would have much credibility with anyone. >>



Chess9,

After five weeks of you steadfastly defending the standardless manual recounts that already happened you say that? You are amazing.

Russ, NCNE
 

veryape

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The republicans can whine all they like. The votes will be counted,showing Gore as the winner,because he won. Don't be foolish in thinking this count will not be overseen by republican observers. Admit it,you are so afraid that you will all be proven wrong and you hate that. Just as the reps didn't want a fair and accurate recount durting the election,the same is true after the election. Pure political cover-up tactics. It just won't fly.


Just ho0w would you republicans like the votes to be recounted by hand? You just plain wouldn't. Why? Because defeat is eminent and you hate it.

Like I said,there can be a fair hand count with equal counters from each party but,&quot;that would not be for the good of the country&quot;,because knowing they have an illigitimate president is not something they need to hear. Our virgin ears. What are we children? I think we can handle hearing the truth once in a while,instead of Bush's cronies bull sh*t rhetoric. We Americans are smart enough to see what the republicans are trying to hide.
 

chess9

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Russ and Etech:

You conveniently misconstrue the quoted passage. The Florida Legislature, in it's infinite wisdom, decreed that &quot;voter intent&quot; was to be the statewide standard. That IS a standard, albeit a loose one. If a recount is to have any weight, all they need to do is divide the vote up into punched cards, hanging cards, cards with dimples for the Presidency, cards with no dimples for the Presidency but dimples for other candidates, etc. Thus, the data presented would include all types of votes. But, I don't think it will matter. Even if you don't count dimpled ballots, once you start counting in Duval and Miami-Dade it's all over. Thousands of ballots were not counted in those counties and the large plurality are votes for Gore.

Bush lost.

And that's why you don't want a recount.

You guys are hopeless apologists for the slimeball Republicans.

Edit: Furthermore, if you don't like the standards, suggest some you'd agree to. Just like the Republican lawyers before the U.S. Supreme Court you won't define the standard because you would be hoist on your own petard.
 

Russ

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<< Because defeat is eminent and you hate it. >>



Bwuahahahahahaha!!!!!! Uh, duh, we already won! You guys are killing me! They can fab up as many votes for Gore as they want. He ain't going to the Whitehouse. Bwuahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!

Russ, NCNE
 

veryape

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Just because Bush is pres elect does not mean he will be 43rd pres of the us,because,as we all know,electors can and might jump ship.bwahhahah So stop being so cocksure and realize he could still lose. With all thats happened in this election I don't think its such a long shot either.
 

Russ

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<< You conveniently misconstrue the quoted passage. >>



Chess9,

I'll bet you were top graduate at your dance class. I know it hurts, and I do sympathize with the profound pain you are feeling knowing that Gore will be fading in to the sunset, never to be seen again.

But, hey, life goes on. You will survive to cry another day.

Russ, NCNE
 

etech

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Chess9, no, I understand very well what you said.

It does not matter to you that Gov. Bush won the election under the rules of Nov. 7th. It would not matter to you if the votes were recounted again and again and still showed that Gov. Bush won. You just can't accept that Gore lost.

&quot;Thousands of ballots were not counted in those counties &quot;
The ballots were counted and recounted under the laws of the State of Florida.


It is sad that you feel you must resort to name-calling.
 

chess9

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Russ:

Yes, Bush will go, but he will be the most disrespected President in U.S. history because he stole the election. He is no different than the robber barons who ravaged and pillaged the American landscape in the 19th century.

Being there is one thing, doing something is quite another.

Within 6 months Bush will be outside the honeymoon period, and the American people will be looking for a divorce lawyer!
 

Russ

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veryape,

HaHa. Right. You libbies have been saying the same thing with different scenarios since November 7th. Nothing has changed, and nothing will. Time to move on with your life.

Russ, NCNE
 

Russ

Lifer
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<< Yes, Bush will go, but he will be the most disrespected President in U.S. history because he stole the election. >>



Chess9,

I'll be saving that prediction. I'd suggest that you save your appetite.

Russ, NCNE
 

chess9

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Russ:

If you'd ever seen me dance, you wouldn't have made that remark.

Furthermore, I've never graduated at the top of anything. I got into graduate school because I was a well known jock, not because I was an excellent student. (Also, I can be pretty persuasive, just in case you hadn't noticed. ) In short, I'm a dumb schmuck, just like you.

Etech:

You Re-Poop-Lickums keep repeating the same mantra. If the votes HAVE been counted, why should you mind if they are recounted? It's not your time or money. Confide in us, Etech, we are your friends. Are you afraid that you and your pencil-knecked geek Republican friends won't be validated? He, he. Teee, heee, haw!!
 

chess9

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Russ:

I've eaten so much crow in my life I've developed a fondness for it. But I'd rather eat crow than be a Jim Crow.
 

veryape

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Politics is not my life,I just don't agree with what has occured in this election and think it was stolen. Nothing like this has ever occured yet you act like its a common occurance and should just be forgotten in a matter of days. Just because you are happy that your candidate looks to have been handed the election you think everyone who feels they have been cheated should just be silenced. Well thats not going too happen. I believe Al Gore won this thing and will not stop debating it until I see otherwise. A hand count would prove this to most democrats but you republicans do not want to see that for some unknown reason. Unknown,hahaha. If that means making this next 4 years a living hell for Bush then so be it. Its not hurting the country like you would like us to believe. Its hurting Bush.
 

chess9

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VeryApe:

Yes, we will have 4 years of dialectic tension and Etech and Russ may as well accept it.

Also, I wonder how many Republicans will win elections in Florida in two years? Well, a fingerless man might figure that one out.

Bwuahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!
 

sandorski

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As far as I'm concerned, they have to seal the ballots. Like it or not, Dubyah is el presidente and the chaos that would ensue from a possible Gore victory through counting the ballots would not be pretty. It is in the US's best interest to seal the ballots for at least the tenure of Dubyuh's Presidency, once he is out of office they should let a research team verify the ballots. Perhaps, if Gore would have won on a recount, a better, more reasonable, national process for recounting can be agreed upon, because what transpired the last month was Mickey Mouse crap. It did not inspire confidence in the supposed leader of the Free world.
 
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