Republicans want to seal the Florida ballots!

[UG]

hehehe.

Yes, let's do!

 

[UG]

BoobFetish;

Umm, how many of those glasses have you had, eh?

 

[Michael]

Chess9 - You're just a typical Elite, using your status to try and beat down the arguements of us less "blessed" members.

<grin>

Michael

ps - this is where Russ or Red Dawn blasts me for making a comment on your status <grin>

 

[PCAddict]

It doesn't matter what happens in Florida anymore. Let them count the ballots and fabricate as many bogus votes for Gore as they attempt to keep the partisan rancor flourishing. They are afraid, plain and simple. The liberal agenda of inaccountability is over.

 

[UG]

Chess9;

<...sordid payback, the best kind...>

Vengence is ours, sayeth the Democrats, sayeth the Republicans, sayeth the Democrats, sayeth the Republicans...

Hey, give us Independents a chance to join in the merriment, too, if you both would, please.

Sheesh. What a bunch of selfish, self-serving skinflints.

 

[chess9]

Michael:

I haven't found one of your arguments I COULD beat down. Quit posting such good stuff and I'll try to oblige. You could be Exhibit D, er, uhm, yoiks!, I may really have to give up that gig. Too bad, it was fitting like a glove, too....

 

[BoberFett]

BoobFetish? Damn straight.

I've had just enough to make bearable the constant whimpering coming from the coasts of this country.

The Wacky Mod must be on duty today. Somehow they've seen fit to make me elite.

 

[chess9]

UG:

I don't know, if we can get McCain to become an independent, we might have a really viable third party in four years. The libertarians don't have a prayer, er, well, that's why they're libertarians. <slaps forehead>

 

[UG]

Jeez, someone's letting just anyone in.

 

[ride525]

When I grow up maybe I can be an Elite too...

 

[UG]

What bothers me most about our predominantly two-party system is not that the two parties are so dominant as to naturally make it difficult for the lessor paries to be competative (I'm an evolutionist, afterall), it's that as the two dominant parties change over time, too few people realize when their best interests no longer fit into their party's strict ideology, and thus they can no longer be appropriately satisfied, and so seem quite unable to make the conscious decision to find an alternative.

Party politics thrives on sheep -- sheep that the parties need to survive, but sheep activists cannot respect because party activists respect only other activists.

The best defense against party activists claiming to represent your best interest, while they best represent their own, is not volunteering to be a sheep.

It's like exercise: you won't get the benefit of it if you don't do it.

 

[glenn1]

This is so f.cking lame. Fine, as far as i'm concerned, do your recounts, hell, make up whatever numbers you want. I'll even go so far as to say that Gore got more votes.

There, feel better now, Gore supporters? It doesn't change a goddamn thing, Bush is going to be the next President, and no one but you gives a flying f.ck anymore... the rest of us know that the true vote count will never be known, for reasons already explained.

Fine, Gore really won. Feel vindicated now? Good, then STT.

 

[UG]

glenn1;

STFU conflicts with the First Ammendment.

STT -- Stop Talking Trash -- is a more defensible utterance.

 

[glenn1]

UG, properly chastised and noted.... i will follow up on your advice, thanks for pointing it out

 

[smartt]

Actually, I really don't like any of them, they're not my type. As far as support, I support my family. Everyone knows that Corporations run America no matter who sits in the Oval Office.

 

[UG]

smartt;

The best defense against corporations is neither to work for them, or to buy from them.



You can't have it both ways: live off of them, and condemn them. You might just be part of the problem.

 

[smartt]

The only people that do that, that I know of, is Amish people. Otherwise, that's almost impossible. Good idea, though.

 

[lowfatbaconboy]

PCAddict- right and your dellusional
the so called recount is not actually a recount but a count of votes that were not counted before and before it was stopped gore had a few thousand votes more than Bush.....thus they should be counted to prove bush didn't win popular vote he didn't win fl and he shouldn't have won the election

we actually care about having an idoit prez for the next 4 years... least he is surrounding himself by intelligent people

how does someone who has never been to europe asia etc deal with foreign relations.....he is a friggen DUMB@$$

i would rather have a boring stiff that knows what he is doing..... I live in TX and so far he has done a piss poor job in our state

lets just hope that congress stays Half half in the next 4 years

 

[woodsman]

Ahh, this is too good!!!!!And it has just started!LOL!!!!!!
If they count them they'll find out Gore really won, and if they don't, the pubs get branded right wing nazis.LOLSMPROTFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Let the good times roll!!!

So this is the type of fun the pubs were having for 8 years, no wonder they didn't want to give it up. I feel better already

woodsman

 

[glenn1]

Fine, Chess and Woodsman and all you other folks who are happy about the situation, can't you just be ecstatic a little bit quieter? I'm frankly tired of hearing the chuckles of glee from those who just can't wait to &quot;expose that Bush really lost.&quot;

Most of America couldn't care less anymore, and your gloating is starting to really grate nerves. You've made your point, others disagree, and most of America is yawning. Notice that there wasn't mass outrage that the USSC stopped the recount. Doesn't that give you even a hint of a clue? America has, as a whole, accepted the situation as it stands.

Did not the other side learn anything from the Impeachment saga? American citizens as a whole might agree with you (just as most agreed what Clinton did was wrong, but didn't think it warranted removing him from office), but not agree that something needs to be done about it, ESPECIALLY what you're proposing. And after a while, people start to get pissed off that you can't let it go. That's what happened during the impeachment saga, and i daresay that you are reaching that same point. You've made your point already. Stand back and watch Bush self-destruct, since you're so certain that he will.

 

[Shuxclams]

<< What bothers me most about our predominantly two-party system is not that the two parties are so dominant as to naturally make it difficult for
the lessor paries to be competative (I'm an evolutionist, afterall), it's that as the two dominant parties change over time, too few people realize
when their best interests no longer fit into their party's strict ideology, and thus they can no longer be appropriately satisfied, and so seem quite
unable to make the conscious decision to find an alternative.

Party politics thrives on sheep -- sheep that the parties need to survive, but sheep activists cannot respect because party activists respect only
other activists.

The best defense against party activists claiming to represent your best interest, while they best represent their own, is not volunteering to be a
sheep.

It's like exercise: you won't get the benefit of it if you don't do it. >>



[/b]Hear that children, UG has said it much more eloquently than I ever could. Thanks you.







SHUX

 

[Michael]

The few elements of the Libertarian party (which Shux seems to be in love with) that I agree with are already part of the Republican platform. There seem to be more Libertarians on the internet than you would be likely to meet normally, and it seems to fool them into forgetting they're a fringe party. Most Americans would say lunatic fringe. I showed a few people the Harry Browne ads and they laughed at him.

As for counting the ballots, I hope they go right ahead. I hope that 10 groups count them and each comes up with their own count. The more the merrier. I hope that 20 groups count them.

The only thing I really want to be done properly is the investigation of the claims of bias against minorities. I think they're just whining in this case, but I would rather error on the side of caution and properly investigate it.

Michael

 

[veryape]

You are wrong. America has not accepted the outcome,they have only come to grips with the fact that there may not be any recourse due to the partisan SC's ruling. Look at the polls and you will see that the same majority that voted for Gore do not believe this outcome has been fair. There are also people who feel Gore won but would rather just let Bush have it to get it over with,which is foolish. Those are the polls you republicans keep quoting. The voting public has not miraculously changed their minds about their candidates as you would like us to believe.

Just because republicans say they have accepted the outcome does not mean we all do. Actually,I do accept it,I just don't think its fair or accurate.

The SC's ruling smacks so badly of partisanship that you will likely be hearing about this for the next four years if not longer. If they had just kept their noses out of the states buisness like they are supposed to this would be over by now,but they felt they needed to put Bush in office before Gore won the state. They even admitted that a hand count with uniform standards was in order,but since they got involved the imaginary dec 12 deadline could not be met. Why did they not just set standards across the state and do the count? They would have easily met the real dec 18 deadline. Because Gore would have won and they couldn't have that. I think the ussc is the court making laws.

 

[Shuxclams]

<< he few elements of the Libertarian party (which Shux seems to be in love with) that I agree with are already part of the Republican platform. >>

True! and if dumb ass haley berber kicks the damn religioue right outta the party the sooner I call myself a republikan. Thats Prolly why I voted for Mcain in the primaries.



SHUX

 

[BoberFett]

Michael

<< I showed a few people the Harry Browne ads and they laughed at him. >>

The 98% of Americans that voted for Bore and Shrub have nothing to laugh at.


veryape

You're obviously in denial. Get over it.