RussianSensation
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Someone got carried away here, drawing general conclusions pretty fast for a not so spectacular game haha
One of the best optimized AAA games in recent years and the best RE7 game since RE4. 88% steam recommend rating, 8.6-8.7 Metacritic on PS4/PC reviews.
80 fps avg at 1080p and 50 fps avg at 1440p in a 2017 title for a 5-year-old HD7970Ghz is amazing. Developers like Ubisoft or
I think BIG NV sku aging pretty decent.
780TI suffers same thing as GTX980TI-they run it in reviews at 800-900Mhz.780TI have also 25-30% oc headroom and once oc to 1200Mhz it wipes the floor with GTX970 and even GTX980 in most games.
This is pure falsehood. You are still thinking late 2014 when 780Ti max overclocked was beating 970 and coming close to a 980. Go check GamersNexus review of 780Ti in modern games. 780Ti max overclocked can barely match a stock R9 390 in modern titles. R9 390 has an additional 15-20% overclocking headroom. Once we are talking high resolution textures and settings, GTX780Ti is slower than RX 470 in modern games.
A stock AIB R9 390 is 18% faster than a 780Ti and R9 290 > RX 470 > GTX780Ti. Most gamers don't overclock either. That means a max overclocked 780Ti would barely come close to a stock AIB R9 390. My XFX R9 390 overclocks to 1200mhz. R9 380 4GB is now 10% faster than GTX960 4GB despite the latter costing more in North America for most of their life-cycle.
https://www.computerbase.de/thema/grafikkarte/rangliste/
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Right now NV's GTX1050Ti 4GB costs $130 on Newegg, while RX 470 is $130. RX 480 8GB is $200 vs. GTX1060 6GB for $240. We should expect GTX1060 6GB to be 20% faster on average in PC games, while in reality, an AIB GTX1060 6GB is only 5% faster than AIB RX 480 8GB. GTX1050Ti is a complete and total joke of a video card.
What do we get by buying NV in the sub-$300 segments? Overpriced underperforming marketing in a pretty box. Oh, but it saves $5 a year in electricity costs. Yawn.
“At 2560 x 1440 with the Radeon Software driver 17.1.1, the 8GB Radeon RX 480 and 4GB Radeon RX470 running Resident Evil 7: Biohazard had 73.5 and 59.0 frames per second, respectively, and the NV 376.33 and 6GB Nvidia GTX1060 and the 4GB 1050TI running Resident Evil 7 had 60.2 and 39.3 frames per second, respectively, which is 22% lower average frames per second when comparing the 8GB Radeon RX480 to the 6GB Nvidia GTX1060.”
http://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/resident-evil-7-pc-favors-radeon-over-nvidia/#ixzz4Wo3kUF2X
RX 470 4GB is 34% faster on average than a GTX1050Ti and yet they cost exactly the same in the US.
The reason NV continues and will continue to outsell AMD cards by 4-7:1 has 0 to do with performance or price/performance. Most PC gamers buying videocards have no knowledge and buy based on brand and perception ONLY or what their friends recommend or what a sales person at a computer store recommends (who also lack technical knowledge in PC hardware and probably just bought the fastest NV cards like GTX1070/1080 and continue to recommend inferior NV products in the lower stacks -- the same reason marketing turds like GTX560/560Ti/GTX660/660Ti/GTX750/750Ti/760/950/960 sold so well -- pure ignorance and brand bias).
It's also logical for sales people at computer stores to push overpriced NV cards since more likely than not the stores have higher profit margins and commission on those products. What would they rather recommend a $130 RX 470 that has barely any profit margin or a $130 GTX1050Ti?
They also cripple almost all cutdown cards one way or another so they age pretty bad-GTX970 is only 224bit and 3.5GB.GTX1070 have only 3x GPC(and 33% less SP) and only GDDR5 and also aging pretty bad compared to furyx or even GTX980TI.
Agreed. GTX1070 is in the running for one of the worst X70 series card since GTX470 but is vehemently defended by supporters of a certain brand. Even now the cheapest GTX1070 on Newegg is $360, barely $20 below MSRP. Soon the card will be almost a year old and it has barely fallen in price, which is good for those who bought it at $380-400 6-7 months ago but awful for newcomers to PC gaming/upgraders from 2012-2014 cards who are now facing a completely stagnant GPU market in the >$250 space. Even the GTX1080 is barely $30 off its $599 MSRP.
If it wasn't for RX 470 and RX 480 in the sub-$250 space, the entire discrete GPU industry would be a disaster right now, and we'd still have GTX1060 selling for $270-290. GTX1050Ti would have probably been $170-190 without RX 470.
Why is it so many owners of NV cards never want to talk about how poorly their expensive cards age(d)? When looking at Steam hardware survey, the vast majority of NV owners are still using Fermi, Kepler and sub-980Ti Maxwell cards. You don't see gamers complaining about this on NeoGaf, and technical PC forums. They just ignore it and fight facts and just upgrade to the next generation of NV cards. What happens when the PC gamer who owned Fermi, Kepler and Maxwell sells those cards in the 2nd hand market? Some other poor PC gamer ends up with a grenade he/she overpaid for.
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