Victorian Gray
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Have you used them in a fashion to protect you or loved ones from bodily harm?
Would you actually believe him if he said yes?
Have you used them in a fashion to protect you or loved ones from bodily harm?
oh yeah? Im hostile and disrespectful? You are perpetuating a lie about guns that will result in peoples deaths and you call me hostile? Get the fuck out of here.
Sounds like you missed the point that was being made entirely. Pro-gun posters aren't villains, nor are you a hero for discussing this subject on the internet. Simmer down now, you righteous great white knight trying to save lives.
Would you actually believe him if he said yes?
wtf is that even supposed to mean? Completely asinine rhetoric. Everyone is a good <fill in the blank> until they aren't.Of course pro gun people aren't villains! The problem is every pro gun person is a good guy until they aren't. Come up with a solution and you too can be a hero!
It's gun grabbing, TDS suffering fucktard logic.wtf is that even supposed to mean? Completely asinine rhetoric. Everyone is a good <fill in the blank> until they aren't.
Don't know. I'd want to know the story. I am familiar with looking into defensive gun use where some analyses looked at described incidents and found many were actually describing crimes. I would imagine also that those prone to bring a gun into a conflict are those prone to getting into conflicts where a gun may be useful.
But obviously there are scenarios where a gun would be helpful. In the general case, the odds are more likely that a gun will cause harm. More likely than either is that it won't be used at all.
Have you used them in a fashion to protect you or loved ones from bodily harm?
I've never used my guns in self defense. Also never murdered or attempted to do so with them. I also haven't used them to commit suicide or attempt to. My guns have been used to put holes in paper more than anything.
It's gun grabbing, TDS suffering fucktard logic.
Who says these gun owners are responsible and If they acquired this gun legally? For all we know bubba could have gotten the gun illegally from his local meth dealer. Find that out and then we can discuss it.
IMO we need to focus on the dramatic increase in knife attacks and deaths in the UK. I heard they want to begin selling dull knives and license knife sharpeners.
wtf is that even supposed to mean? Completely asinine rhetoric. Everyone is a good <fill in the blank> until they aren't.
In an overall statistical sense, yes, that is true. But since deaths caused by gun ownership fit in to certain patterns, it's also possible to self-screen. So, for example, you might not want to have a gun in your house if a) you have young children, especially young boys, b) you have a history of depression or other mental illness, c) you have anger management issues (could be depression, see b) or d) you are in an acrimonious marriage, like the guy under discussion in this thread (no way she shot him over a porn subscription alone, pretty obvious this went way back.)
The other important aspect of this that a gun for self-protection isn't necessarily about actually stopping someone from harming you. That is the idea in the gun owner's head, but isn't the primary benefit. The benefit is actually that it may make you feel safer. There is value in just feeling safe and secure.
IMO we need to focus on the dramatic increase in knife attacks and deaths in the UK.