Restart problem

lavagirl669

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Just did a fresh reinstall of Win XP Pro, specs seen in "my Rigs" link.

During normal use, Windows just shuts down and restarts. Doesn't seem like a PSU
issue, it just restarts right in the middle of something.
Seems to be when in IE, but I haven't tried using Software Apps yet, so not sure about
those.

Any thoughts?

What a pain...

All critical updates installed....
 

0roo0roo

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autorestarts are either psu, ram, bad m/b, bad cpu... bad nightmare.isolate and test ... hows your cpu temp? is the cpu caked with dust?
 

TeeJay1952

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Free Memory Tester
Take memory out of the equation! This is loaded before Windows. (DOS)
Make sure you turn this off as it will loop forever.
If you are wondering what is wrong...Take memory out of the equation. Means do this and see if it is memory if not look elsewhere.
The download creates a floppy that boots without Windows so you can check it to see if it is hardware or software creating problem.
The program is a burn in program and will do the tests over and over again so if you wait for it to complete it will run forever. It is a DOS program so just reboot without disk and all will be well.
 

sisooktom

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Keep in mind that XPs default behavior is to reboot when it crashes. If you right click My Computer and go Advanced | Startup and Recovery, and uncheck Automatically Restart, you'll get the traditional BSOD, which can help you identify the culprit.
 

lavagirl669

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Ok I disabled the restart thing....so when this happens again you're saying
it will tell me what the culprit is?

Is it safe to disable that?

the "shutdown -a" command didn't work......

p.s. Yes, running NAV and CPU is new and temp is good.
 

XplosiV

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I know that one symptom of a bad RAM DIMM is that the screen will quickly go black and cut out, then cut back in again at random intervals. You might also want to check youcase temp, in some / most modern PC's the BIOS had a temp cut off ... you can set it from around 55 - 65 C if your temp goes above its set limit, your pc will reboot, i think its based mostly on CPU temperature, so you might have some kind of fault with your CPU fan maybe, or the fitting of the fan on teh CPU might have been disturbed in some way, either will cause the CPU temp to rise, thus your PC rebooting.

I do think however its more likely that its a hardware thing not so much a software or virii thing. To check your CPU temp try this.

Power on your pc, you should see something saying "Press *** to enter setup" where *** = either 'DEL', 'F1' or something simalar, also might say "to enter 'BIOS'"

once in bios just look through your options, maybe 'advanced features' or something along them line, and look for Power management or simalar.

once you found that, you should see something that will tell you the CPU temp and you can set your own limits or turn off, however turning off the limitations ( if it is the fan ) could possibly damage / blow your CPU. just look at the temp, see if its aobve 65 / 70, if so, its time to open the case and check out the fan, and how its sitting on the CPU.

Good luck
 

lavagirl669

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CPU temp 44C
System temp 40C

That sounds good right?
I've got a Panaflo 92mm fan on a Thermalright SP94 Heatsink
 

lavagirl669

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ok....

Let me know if you can think of anything else.

Maybe I should check the DIMM settings in BIOS?

I did a Drive defrag last night and ran an AV scan, no problems as of yet
today.....but knock on wood on that one.
 

XplosiV

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Woudlnt hurt to check Dimm settings, one might have blown, if your still having problems with the reboots, you could rey alternating the dimms and taking one out in turn, that would eliminate them from the list
 

XplosiV

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NB - with te system i built ( i dont take much care with my own system lol ) i decided to rip one of the dimms out while the pc was powered ( whoopsy ) the dimm didnt like that much, however, the point being, it blew but when it was back in, it regestered as being the 2nd dimm and my ram was at 1024mb, just teh module was dead after that, very volatile. point is, messed up ram might regester, that does not mean its working, and it can as i said before ^ there someplace, cause symptoms or wiredness ... needles to say i now stopped ripping ram from my powered PC LOL
 

lavagirl669

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ok....got the BSOD (yay)

This is the error msg:

Ntfs.sys
PAGE_FAULT_IN_NONPAGED_AREA

ntfs.sys-Address F7B746DE base at F7B55000 DateStamp 3d6de5c1


Any ideas what that could mean?
 

lavagirl669

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Thanks for that link.....I'm starting to suspect a RAM problem
perhaps faulty?
Never had a problem with the 2 OCZ's but just put in the 2 Kingston Hyper X
and this problem started occuring after that.

Or do you think it could be a Norton AV problem?
 

goblue420

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Originally posted by: lavagirl669
ok....got the BSOD (yay)

This is the error msg:

Ntfs.sys
PAGE_FAULT_IN_NONPAGED_AREA

ntfs.sys-Address F7B746DE base at F7B55000 DateStamp 3d6de5c1


Any ideas what that could mean?

put the disk in another FAT32 system, disable ntfs drivers by booting to safemode and going to c/win/sys32/drivers and rename ntfs.sys to ntfs.old boot into the system in normal mode with the ntfs f;ed up hdd hooked up and run chkdsk driveltr: /F

edit: i just had this problem a few days ago, i think it cam happen when you dont shutdown properly, so not it cant mount that hdd
 

lavagirl669

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What disk? Windows?

So you mean put the disc in another system completely?

I've got 3 HDD's on this OS on Primary drive C
F and G are DVD/CD burner Roms

Let me know, thanks.
 

vasdrakken

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PAGE_FAULT_IN_NONPAGED_AREA this can also have to do with the swap file or PAGEFILE.SYS trying to swap and not having any room to swap to on the hardrive... think twice as much room on the hardrive as you have system memory, and if you have 512MB plus consider locking the min and the max to twice you sysmem which usually stops you from swaping more memory to your hardrive than you have space.
 
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