Retail Barton 2500+ $90.00 @ GoogleGear & $90.00 @ NewEgg

[RatDog8102]

Got mine today. Haven't had the chance to push it yet, but here are the numbers from the chip:

AXDA2500DKV4D
AQUCA 0306UPBW

 

[c627627]

Originally posted by: Arschloch: My question is, is there any way to reinstall Windows but still keep all of the previous programs & their registry info so I won't have to take the time to reinstall all of those?

Arschloch (is that how they spell assclock in the old country? ),

When you install a new mobo, your old Windows may work after loading some PCI drivers, etc. but if you're going to use this setup for any longer period of time, you will need to have a fresh install of Windows on the new mobo to reduce instability and increase performance.

Don't forget to

Powerquest Drive Image 2002 (nicer interface) or Norton Ghost are the single most important pieces of software. They use a start up floppy to backup your entire hard drive to multiple CDRs or as large files on another drive partition. This is particularily useful if you partition your hard drive (Powerquest Partition Magic is excellent for this) first, then install your operating system onto C drive and then all large Apps on other drives. You than backup the C drive which contains Windows (+maybe a few other small programs).

Every few months, after Windows breaks down or starts giving you errors, you replace your C drive with backed up version of it, and things are just as they used to be when you backed them up first. I also keep a txt file where I write changes and tweaks I made to the original installation, that way, when I reinstall from backup, I make those changes, than save on CDR's again and so on every few months.

Originally, it took me days to reinstall Windows and get things back the way I like them. It now takes minutes with the the help of Drive Image 2002 or Norton Ghost. Now just make sure you change location of Favorites, Desktop and Start Menu, (CUT and PASTE from C:\Windows will do) since they require more frequent backup, so if you have them on another drive, restoring C drive would not replace them.

Every setting in every application is just the way you first set it. (Every menu size, every font size, every icon.) Registry backup is no substitute for orginized quick C Drive backup/restore.

I defragment my drives and use ScanDisk but nothing makes my PC go faster then when I restore from a backup made just after I first setup things the way I prefer...

 

[Delbert]

Originally posted by: RatDog8102
Got mine today. Haven't had the chance to push it yet, but here are the numbers from the chip:

AXDA2500DKV4D
AQUCA 0306UPBW

Got mine today too. Mine is an AQXDA though.

Pic if you wanna see it.

 

[SimMike2]

When you install a new mobo, your old Windows may work after loading some PCI drivers, etc. but if you're going to use this setup for any longer period of time, you will need to have a fresh install of Windows on the new mobo to reduce instability and increase performance.

Clean install fanatics never give up. Don't believe it. You don't need to do a clean install everytime you sneeze, as clean install fanatics would have you believe (I even heard one poor sod boast that he does a "clean install every two months" like he was proud of himself. What an idiot.) I'm currently using an install from about 1999 when I had Windows 98. Since then, this install has been in about 10 different computers, from K6-2, to overclocked Celeron to current 2400XP. This includes a drastic recent change from an AMD761 mainboard to a N-Force mainboard using the Promise controller trick. This install works perfectly fine and I didn't have to reinstall anything. In my opinion, Windows XP is especially good about just using the drivers it needs and ignoring everything else. For people who think this must be buggy -- IT ISN'T. Get over it and stop perpetuating a myth that is only marginally true.

If you want a really buggy install, try using the XP migration wizard in the file and settings mode. This results in a way buggier install than what I did and dumps just as much garbage back into the system.

 

[Justus]

From googlegear today (ordered late Friday):

AXDA2500DKV4D
AQXCA0311MPM

 

[dnoyeb]

Originally posted by: SimMike2


Clean install fanatics never give up. Don't believe it. You don't need to do a clean install everytime you sneeze, as clean install fanatics would have you believe (I even heard one poor sod boast that he does a "clean install every two months" like he was proud of himself. What an idiot.) I'm currently using an install from about 1999 when I had Windows 98. Since then, this install has been in about 10 different computers, from K6-2, to overclocked Celeron to current 2400XP. This includes a drastic recent change from an AMD761 mainboard to a N-Force mainboard using the Promise controller trick. This install works perfectly fine and I didn't have to reinstall anything. In my opinion, Windows XP is especially good about just using the drivers it needs and ignoring everything else. For people who think this must be buggy -- IT ISN'T. Get over it and stop perpetuating a myth that is only marginally true.

If you want a really buggy install, try using the XP migration wizard in the file and settings mode. This results in a way buggier install than what I did and dumps just as much garbage back into the system.

Dirty install fanatics never give up. Don't believe it. You do not need to sit for hours to play around and filter thorough all sorts of problems with drivers in safe mode. Windows is unstable enough as it is. Why intorduce any additional uncertainty. If you change the MB, reinstall the software. Especially if your new MB is from a different year and may contain newer technologies that replace older ones. Especially if it is a chipset from a different manufacturer.

Why worry? If your young and frisky, go for the overinstall. If your tired of fighting your computer, go for the clean.

 

[zodder]

Arschloch (is that how they spell assclock in the old country?

Ist "a$$hole" auf Deutch, yah?

 

[edplayer]

Originally posted by: SimMike2
Get over it and stop perpetuating a myth that is only marginally true.

The part about instability may only be partially true.

The part about increase performance, though is true (depending on how drastic a difference it is). If you going from one motherboard to another that only has minor differences (like lets say, same chipset), there may be no measurable performance decrease. However, if there are major differences and if you change the motherboard several times, you will be able to measure a difference. Also if you install and than uninstall lots of programs, big perf boost from doing a clean install.

Yes, it is not required. But a clean install will result in the "quickest" possible condition that computer can be.

 

[zodder]

Too good for me to pass up. The retail chips seem to be overclocking well, so I went with that. Onward and upward to 2.3Ghz! Wish me luck.

 

[timsactown]

Got mine retail from Newegg yesterday and I after booting into windowsXP, I restart the system and set the multipler to 12.5X and leave the FSB at 166, and voltage at default. The BIOS picks it up as XP2800+ and everything works like a charm.

 

[Delbert]

Odd that so far the three people listing numbers off their chip are all different.
AQUCA0306UPBW for RatDog8102
AQXDA0314MPMW for me
AQXCA0311MPM For Justus

 

[Heinrich]

Originally posted by: SimMike2

Clean install fanatics never give up. Don't believe it. You don't need to do a clean install everytime you sneeze, as clean install fanatics would have you believe (I even heard one poor sod boast that he does a "clean install every two months" like he was proud of himself. What an idiot.) I'm currently using an install from about 1999 when I had Windows 98. Since then, this install has been in about 10 different computers, from K6-2, to overclocked Celeron to current 2400XP. This includes a drastic recent change from an AMD761 mainboard to a N-Force mainboard using the Promise controller trick. This install works perfectly fine and I didn't have to reinstall anything.

I would have a tendency to agree with you a bit more on WIndows XP, but 98? Good lord, all I have to do is let a computer sit for a few months and performance decreases 10, 25, 30, 40 percent gradually. I'm sorry but I find it difficult to believe that you've got a Windows '98 install from 10 different computers from a K62 to 2400XP. Either that, or if you went ahead and did a clean install now you'd notice an amazing performance boost.

 

[Yo2]

Originally posted by: Delbert

Originally posted by: RatDog8102
Got mine today. Haven't had the chance to push it yet, but here are the numbers from the chip:

AXDA2500DKV4D
AQUCA 0306UPBW

Got mine today too. Mine is an AQXDA though.

Pic if you wanna see it.

ditto here - seems like a good chip does about 2400 @1.76V with seti in a warm (85+degree) roomn on air - heck this about 100MHz better than my Tbred 2100+ and with more cache

 

[jamautosound]

Originally posted by: Delbert
Odd that so far the three people listing numbers off their chip are all different.
AQUCA0306UPBW for RatDog8102
AQXDA0314MPMW for me
AQXCA0311MPM For Justus

I noticed that also. I wonder if there will eventually be a "one to get", kinda like the AGOIA 1600+ was/is.

Today is payday, but I still can't buy the damn thing.

 

[zodder]

Originally posted by: Yo2

Originally posted by: Delbert

Originally posted by: RatDog8102
Got mine today. Haven't had the chance to push it yet, but here are the numbers from the chip:

AXDA2500DKV4D
AQUCA 0306UPBW

Got mine today too. Mine is an AQXDA though.

Pic if you wanna see it.

ditto here - seems like a good chip does about 2400 @1.76V with seti in a warm (85+degree) roomn on air - heck this about 100MHz better than my Tbred 2100+ and with more cache

That's what I'm hoping for, too. I have a nice 2100+, but I'd like to see how much better the Barton does crunching SETI.

 

[DRS]

I got mine from a local vendor for $99 + tax. It's currently running at 200x11, default voltage, retail cooler with corsair XMS 3200 ram. Currently running Prime95, iteration 20 and counting...

 

[Bot69]

This or tbred 2600+ ?

 

[BubbaJudge]

Originally posted by: Delbert
Odd that so far the three people listing numbers off their chip are all different.
AQUCA0306UPBW for RatDog8102
AQXDA0314MPMW for me
AQXCA0311MPM For Justus

I got one made the same day as yours

AQXDA0314MPMW

purchased from newegg currently running at 1.95ghz 11x176 as I slowly ramp it up.

 

[Cybordolphin]

Lol...

Is SimMike2 serious??

If I could get away without having to do a fresh install every time a change a motherboard, I spose I would. I have never been able to swap out a motherboard without getting the ol blue screen. If he'd partition his hard drives correctly, send his mail folders to a safe partition along with all of his docs, etc., maybe a clean install would not (scare him so much)....be so much trouble for him.

I had read that these Bartons do not offer a performance increase over the T-Breds... did I read wrong? So they really overclock that well eh?

 

[DRS]

Originally posted by: Bot69
This or tbred 2600+ ?

A 2500+ Barton

 

[BobSnob]

With Windows XP, if you change your motherboard you can first boot Windows from CDROM and do a repair. This will copy over all the new drivers and settings required for your new hardware. Then just boot as normal. Works for me every time without fail.

 

[Corporate Thug]

Originally posted by: DRS
I got mine from a local vendor for $99 + tax. It's currently running at 200x11, default voltage, retail cooler with corsair XMS 3200 ram. Currently running Prime95, iteration 20 and counting...

DRS, can u know the serial?

 

[bdubya]

Steve at HardOCP posted the following...

A "H" system builder gives us word that every AMD 2500+ Barton out of the last seven he has bought has done 3200+ out of the box. Worth looking into for the AMD fans!

I think most have been getting 3200+ using an OEM heatsink and fan! Compare that to the price of a P4 3.2?... AMD is the price/perfomance leader again!

Just wait 'till fall....

 

[_Tron_]

bought 3 of these since the price drop to 98. all doing great

 

[RideFree]

Took the opportunity to upgrade a 1600+OEM (running 166FSB) to the 2500+retail (running 200FSB).
(Had an SLK800 and a YS Tech 80x25 lying about and they are now running 46 - 48C (according to the BIOS).)

Also, updated an ancient Shuttle AK31 (266A chipset) to the Abit NF7-S v2.0.
These NF7-Ss have to be the best AMD thing going. I think Abit is trying to make up for the Taiwan capacitor snafu.
According to the System Properties tab in XP Pro, this combo is running 3200+.

I'm going to temporarily fool myself into thinking this is the last upgrade I'll ever need...at least 'till the nForce3s come out.
:sun:

Edited for lack of smiles in the first try.