Retail Barton 2500+ $90.00 @ GoogleGear & $90.00 @ NewEgg

[HeavyB]

Will an Alpha 8045 be an adequate cooler for this processor??

HeavyB

 

[LizReed]

 

[Yo2]

Originally posted by: HeavyB
Will an Alpha 8045 be an adequate cooler for this processor??

HeavyB

That's what I am using - works great (even with a slow to medium speed fan = less noise)

 

[Chobits]

AQXDA0314MPMW

That is the one I got...but I can't overclock yet mainly because the hyperx ram turned out to be fubared so my friend is borrowing my other stick of pc2700 crucial and i'm stuck with 256 megs of ram for the meantime.

But how high have you been able to push this specific stepping? I'm hoping for atlesat 2.1 ghz

 

[Yo2]

Even with slow ram you should be able to oc the chip via multiplier

 

[Chobits]

Yes I know that But I want to aim for 200 Mhz FSB Something like 200*10.5 or 11 would be heaven to me

 

[railer]

I've swapped out a few mb's on my xp pro install without having to reload the OS. I've stayed with the same basic chipset each time. Went from a via 266 -> 333 -> to my current via 400 chipset (gigabyte 7vaxp) without having to do much of anything. Just lucky maybe.

 

[Falloutboy]

best way I have founr dwhen changing out major hardware to gert out of a clean install is just doing a repair install 9/10 times it works ok.

 

[DRS]

Originally posted by: shady06

Originally posted by: DRS
I got mine from a local vendor for $99 + tax. It's currently running at 200x11, default voltage, retail cooler with corsair XMS 3200 ram. Currently running Prime95, iteration 20 and counting...

DRS, can u know the serial?

AXDA2500KV4D
AQXDA0314MPMW

With stock cooling it was running hot, like 48C with the case open. I picked up a Volcano 11-Xaser Edition (whatever that means) P/N:A1607 with AS3, and it idles at 40C with the fan at lowest speed with the case closed! In other words I don't think stock cooling is adequate at 200x11 (2200).

 

[MichaelD]

I thought I'd come back and check this thread out.

I received my Barton a few days ago, but haven't had time to mess w/it as I moved over the weekend.

Here's my info though.

Complete code on my XP2500 Barton:

AXDA2500DKV4D Y831258260197
AQXDA0315VPFW


From what I hear, I should be able to get 11 x 200 @ 1.650v fairly easily. I have an AX-7 w/a 34CFM fan.

 

[Rav3n]

Originally posted by: Arschloch

Originally posted by: c627627
Windows will be fine and so will all your programs which will execute faster.

The only thing here is if your mobo is compatible with it and if so do you need a mobo BIOS upgrade to correctly recognize it.

Windows may need to be reinsatlled if you buy a new mobo, not CPU.

Each time in the past that I've installed a new motherboard, I have had to reinstall Windows. Right now, I have a KG7-RAID, and that doesn't support the Barton, so I'm anticipating having to reinstall Windows when I get a new mobo.

But my question is, is there any way to reinstall Windows but still keep all of the previous programs & their registry info so I won't have to take the time to reinstall all of those?

Right now it wouldn't be much more than a minor annoyance since I'm quitting my job in about 3 weeks, so I'll have the time.

I'm also trying to determine if I should get rid of my current memory too. It's 512MB Crucial PC2700, and since my current CPU FSB is 150MHz, I haven't been able to really test it.

File Settings and Transfer Wizard - Start--> Programs--> Accessories--> System Tools --> have fun

As for the deal, Googlegear has the retail for 98 with free 2nd day shipping, and Newegg has the retail for 98 with free fedex saver shipping, and the OEM for 93 (and same shipping). In my experience, Googlegear has nicer people working the customer support and I think the website is more professional, but thats just my own small opinion.

 

[WHipLAsh13]

Originally posted by: bdubya
Steve at HardOCP posted the following...

A "H" system builder gives us word that every AMD 2500+ Barton out of the last seven he has bought has done 3200+ out of the box. Worth looking into for the AMD fans!

I think most have been getting 3200+ using an OEM heatsink and fan! Compare that to the price of a P4 3.2?... AMD is the price/perfomance leader again!

Just wait 'till fall....

Are you for real? You are comparing an overclocked 2500 to a processor that runs 3.2 stock. Removing the fact that AMD's rating system is completely outdated because stock a 2600+ != 2.6 P4, you can't compare the price of a stock processor to that of an overclocked one. If you were able to do that then my P4 1.6A I have running at 2.6 on stock cooling would be a steal. A 2.4 P4 can easily hit 3.0 on stock cooling and a 2.6 can hit 3.2. So when you make a statement like this atleast compare apples to apples instead of oranges.

 

[whatzdaname]

Question :
I have two Crucial PC2100 RAMs (512 + 256 = 768MB).
Will the Barton 2500+ CPU run on my system without problem ?
My MB is Albatron KX400-8X which has a KT400 chipset.

I'm just worried that my RAMs run at 133MHz but the Barton CPU defaults as FSB 166MHz.
I wonder if my RAMs are going to bear the 166MHz speed or if the MB has an ability to run RAMs and CPU clocks in different ratios.

TIA

 

[stockjock]

OK...here is what I have...can you guys tell me what to do?
I have an ASUS A7N8X DELUXE NFORCE2 board
2 X 512mb PC2700 ram with heat spreaders
Gainward Golden Sample 128mb GeForce TI4600

Everything else is pretty standard

If I get one of thes 2500+ Bartons....what should I do??

thanks

 

[DRS]

Originally posted by: stockjock
OK...here is what I have...can you guys tell me what to do?
I have an ASUS A7N8X DELUXE NFORCE2 board
2 X 512mb PC2700 ram with heat spreaders
Gainward Golden Sample 128mb GeForce TI4600

Everything else is pretty standard

If I get one of thes 2500+ Bartons....what should I do??

thanks

Set it to 200Mhz FSB and cross your fingers.

 

[stockjock]

Set it to 200Mhz FSB and cross your fingers.

Sounds pretty much like what I do everytime I build my own systems...

With the setup I just mentioned...I've got a XP2100+...can it do anything in that or is it locked??

 

[yodayoda]

Originally posted by: whatzdaname
Question :
I have two Crucial PC2100 RAMs (512 + 256 = 768MB).
Will the Barton 2500+ CPU run on my system without problem ?
My MB is Albatron KX400-8X which has a KT400 chipset.

I'm just worried that my RAMs run at 133MHz but the Barton CPU defaults as FSB 166MHz.
I wonder if my RAMs are going to bear the 166MHz speed or if the MB has an ability to run RAMs and CPU clocks in different ratios.

TIA

i have tested 4 Crucial PC2100 256MB sticks and all of them will run at PC2700 at aggressive timings. all pass MemTest flawlessly. the highest they would go was on average 170MHz. i would recommend staying with the crucial sticks if you are just going to run at the default speed of the 2500+ chip, but if you were planning on hitting PC3200 and 200MHz FSB, think again =(

 

[zodder]

Originally posted by: DRS

Originally posted by: stockjock
OK...here is what I have...can you guys tell me what to do?
I have an ASUS A7N8X DELUXE NFORCE2 board
2 X 512mb PC2700 ram with heat spreaders
Gainward Golden Sample 128mb GeForce TI4600

Everything else is pretty standard

If I get one of thes 2500+ Bartons....what should I do??

thanks

Set it to 200Mhz FSB and cross your fingers.

LOL! Exactly.

 

[SimMike2]

With Windows XP, if you change your motherboard you can first boot Windows from CDROM and do a repair. This will copy over all the new drivers and settings required for your new hardware. Then just boot as normal. Works for me every time without fail.

Unfortunately, the Corp edition doesn't have this "repair" option. Even the regular version, which has the repair option, is going to give you some activation cr@p, which you will probably have to finish via your telephone because Windows won't even get to the part allowing web access.

 

[Xionide]

Originally posted by: SimMike2

When you install a new mobo, your old Windows may work after loading some PCI drivers, etc. but if you're going to use this setup for any longer period of time, you will need to have a fresh install of Windows on the new mobo to reduce instability and increase performance.

Clean install fanatics never give up. Don't believe it. You don't need to do a clean install everytime you sneeze, as clean install fanatics would have you believe (I even heard one poor sod boast that he does a "clean install every two months" like he was proud of himself. What an idiot.) I'm currently using an install from about 1999 when I had Windows 98. Since then, this install has been in about 10 different computers, from K6-2, to overclocked Celeron to current 2400XP. This includes a drastic recent change from an AMD761 mainboard to a N-Force mainboard using the Promise controller trick. This install works perfectly fine and I didn't have to reinstall anything. In my opinion, Windows XP is especially good about just using the drivers it needs and ignoring everything else. For people who think this must be buggy -- IT ISN'T. Get over it and stop perpetuating a myth that is only marginally true.

If you want a really buggy install, try using the XP migration wizard in the file and settings mode. This results in a way buggier install than what I did and dumps just as much garbage back into the system.

Alright either this is a joke or you have way WAY to much tim on your hands. But im pretty damn sure this is a joke.

-Xionide

 

[Chobits]

AXDA2500KV4D
AQXDA0314MPMW

With stock cooling it was running hot, like 48C with the case open. I picked up a Volcano 11-Xaser Edition (whatever that means) P/N:A1607 with AS3, and it idles at 40C with the fan at lowest speed with the case closed! In other words I don't think stock cooling is adequate at 200x11 (2200).

Yosh! Now that makes me happy since I have the same week and stepping

 

[bdubya]

If you have Windows XP and install a new motherboard, processor, etc. you don't need to reinstall your OS. Boot from your Windows CD, skip the first repair console option, select the partition Windows is installed on. It will ask if you want to repair this installation of Windows, or reinstall. Select repair.

I'm sure you can find much more detailed instructions elswhere, as I just shot this from the hip. It works great! Save some time and aggravation on your next upgrade. (Only works with Windows XP, and not with OEM versions).

 

[bdubya]

Are you for real? You are comparing an overclocked 2500 to a processor that runs 3.2 stock. Removing the fact that AMD's rating system is completely outdated because stock a 2600+ != 2.6 P4, you can't compare the price of a stock processor to that of an overclocked one. If you were able to do that then my P4 1.6A I have running at 2.6 on stock cooling would be a steal. A 2.4 P4 can easily hit 3.0 on stock cooling and a 2.6 can hit 3.2. So when you make a statement like this atleast compare apples to apples instead of oranges.

I agree the 1.6A was a steal! What's the cheapest P4 you can buy today? Add to that a performance P4 motherboard, and compare that to the price of this 2500 and an nForce2 motherboard. The AMD system is going to be cheaper, and provide equal performance. At least Intel dropped Rambus. :disgust:

AMD has for the past couple years offered the best price perfomance ratio when building a system. I think AMD rating system is getting stretched, but as you can see here it's held up quite well.

stock a 2600+ != 2.6 P4

Care to put some money on that? :evil:

 

[thawolfman]

What's the best mobo to pair one of these up with? Currently STILL running an ASUS A7M266

 

[MichaelD]

Originally posted by: thawolfman
What's the best mobo to pair one of these up with? Currently STILL running an ASUS A7M266

W/O question, an NForce2 board. I have the Epox 8RDA+ and it's flawless. If you're going to OC, make sure you have a quality PS and CPU HSF though.