Retail (stock) HSF for AMD T-Bird: Must you replace it?

[PrelateBishop]

Building a new 'puter sporting a 1GHz T-Bird and Asus A7V. Apparently issues abound with heat causing all kinds of grief. Therefore, can I safely and reliably use the stock HSF that comes with a retail AMD processor if I am not going to overclock?

I'm using an IW-S500 case with the stock power supply fan and installing two Panasonic Panaflo 80mm L1A's (21db / 24cfm ... one for intake in the front and other for rear exhaust). Noise was a concern, hence the decision for these fans.

If I have to replace the stock HSF, I was strongly considering the Alpha PAL High Performance Package found at nerdsbyte.com as an alternative.

 

[helloedchen]

yes, you can us the stock retail heatsink supplied with the chip. but if you want to 'prolong' your chips life due to heat...having a bigger aftermarket hs/fan would surely help

 

[Mikewarrior2]

the stock heatsink performs fairly well, if you have a 900mhz t-bird or higher(so you'll get the taisol cek733092).

Orbs, Taisols, Globalwins: diode versus socket-thermsitor testing

My recommendation is that if you have the retail heatsink, do not "downgrade" with either orb.


Mike

 

[Flash]

As the retail fan is a taisol 733092 it should perform well. If you think the thunderbird get too hot not only the alpha but also the taisol 742092 is a very good choice and also not very loud.

 

[MUSTANG347]

"Downgrade" with either ORB?

Does that include the Super ORB?

 

[Viperoni]

My recommendation to you:
Get the Alpha pal6035 with the SUNON 23cfm fan.
Wire it doen to 7v, and you should be set.

You most definetely don't want a 46.5db fan in your case when you're trying to keep things quiet

 

[Impact55]

I know the calculations might not be correct, but I'm at 39C when in windows after an hour or two on a 1ghz Tbird.

 

[Mule]

You're in Luck! I got the almost same setup with a In Win S500 case and a 1.1 Ghz TBird supported by the Asus A7V(also using stock HSF).

Apparently AMD supplied me with the Taisol 733 HSF as stock. The fan is quiet, but it made a "whirly" sound when air passed over the Heatsink so I replaced it with a panaflo ?? that was laying around, pretty quiet now.

I just recieved 2 panaflo 80mm L1a'a from teamawe.com and I have installed them replacing a more powerful exhaust fan but noisier.

Asus probe with just exhaust fan:
cpu: 46 idle 49 max
mobo: 32 idle 34 max

with replaced panaflo for exhaust
cpu: 49 idle 53 max
mobo: 32 idle 35 max

with replaced panaflo for exhuast and extra for input
cpu: 49 idle 53 max
mobo: 30 idle 32 max

As you can see the panaflo fans are quiet but leave alot of heat inside the case. I don't have any crashes at all so I am ok with that because noise is my biggest concern. It's still within spec so I'm not really worried about anything, plus I have a 3 year warranty if anything does go wrong.

Note that I also have a slot fan.

 

[PrelateBishop]

I'm a little shocked that the Panaflo's didn't reduce the ambient air temperature inside the case more. Nevertheless, I would think that this is still a better setup than not adding any additional cooling.

Now this may be super evident once I get everything, but I shall pose the question anyway. I'm presently working under the assumption that the fans (since I purchased 4-pin) will be connected into the same power as the IDE drives. Is this correct?

 

[dcdomain]

Yes you are correct. I currently have the stock fan and heatsink on the 1.1ghz and it's pretty damn loud. The whirling sound Mule described is bothering me. I used to have four case fans going, but just disconnected the front two intakes, now I just have two exhaust fans and the cpu fan. Cpu fan is the loudest thing in here. I'm gonna look into other cpu fans... I suggest you do the same if you want a quieter computer.