[Retired] The LCD Thread

[ATUCutter]

Originally posted by: zod96
Just got the samsung 932GW, and love it. Of course it has 1 stuck red pixel in the upper left hand corner towards the center. Would you return it for 1 stuck pixel? I tried all the tricks to get it unstuck but nothings worked. The circuitcity I got it from doesn't have anymore. So I would have to drive about 30 miles to exchange it with another one. Do you guys think its worth it?

Thanks

I would drive the 30 miles to return it, that's just me though.

 

[redlinez33]

zod96 does the stuck pixel bother you? is that the only problem? You are taking a chance of returning it and getting either a stuck pixel in the center of the screen or more than 1 stuck pixel....

Of course you could get one without any stuck pixels.

Thats a 30min drive that you are taking a chance on..........

 

[zod96]

I only see it if I look for it. Like now as I type this its just above the text I'm typing, a nice red stuck pixel. I just don't know what to do. My luck I return this one and I get one that's worse. What is the best method to unstuck a pixel?

 

[ATUCutter]

Originally posted by: zod96
I only see it if I look for it. Like now as I type this its just above the text I'm typing, a nice red stuck pixel. I just don't know what to do. My luck I return this one and I get one that's worse. What is the best method to unstuck a pixel?

I would think you would be less likely to get another one with a stuck pixel. You would think the odds would be in your favor to get one without a stuck pixel. My L226WTQ I picked up last night from Best Buy didn't have any stuck pixels (knocks on wood).

It sounds like it is bothering you now, I would take it back, you spent good money.

 

[zod96]

Its funny it seems to be getting smaller. Do stuck pixels ever go away overtime?

 

[starcycle]

Arg! I don't like the sound of that. The Lenovo looks interesting and I don't really want to go up to a 24".

Originally posted by: Gunlance
I was considering the dell too. The samsung seemed more worth it especially seeing as you know what you are purchasing. I got my 215TW from tigerdirect and it was here lickety-split. I know tigerdirect is pretty skimpy on support/service there are whole websites dedicated to that : (

It looks like they're the only game in town now. Are you having any of the color problems that starcycle is having?

okay - here's an update. I tried the monitor with a different video card, and it seems much better now (I really wish I had a calibrator of some sort :argh: ). I was using a matrox G450 in linux, with custom unofficial drivers made by tuxx-home. the "new" card is a radeon 9600 using the stock xorg drivers, and I'm liking it much better now.

So seeing how this is one of the few non-TN 20" around (21" actually - really nice), and for me 24" is just simply too big, I think I might just stick with the samsung. The one thing I was really worried about, the backlight bleed, simply doesn't exist on mine. I used a completely black screen in a darkened room, and I couldn't see any at all. I'll try to take some pics if I get a chance.

 

[Trean]

Finally got everything hooked up. No dead or stuck pixels on the VX2435WM. No other problems I don't think. Haven't tested uniformity or bleeding but it doesn't appear to be a problem.

Also got my Onkyo receiver. Currently not hooked up to the monitor though. Just optical hook ups from the HDTV receiver and the computer. Which make everything sound a crapload better especially since the onkyo can matrix the 2.1 surround on to my 5.1 speaker setup. Bad news with the Onkyo was that it doesn't support non-normal tv resolutions like those offered by a computer (1920x1200) so I cannot hook up my computer as a switch through it, I need a switch that just accepts the signal and moves it along and doesn't care about the resolution. Shouldn't be a problem until I get another thing like a blu-ray player (don't have one yet) that requires an HDMI connection; upon which I will probably purchase a switch for ease.

I had no problems hooking up the HDMI coords. The monitor doesn't like hooking up component wrong; switched the green and blue and it had power outage problems but with it hooked up correctly it works fine. Haven't really tested out the HDTV receiver quite yet, probably won't really too much until the SuperBowl and next week, nothing good to watch on weekends . The coords were much easier to hook up because I hooked them up with the monitor laying flat rather than standing up; did that after reading the other two reviews on hookups from VX2435wm owners.

The crappiest part of it all was well dealing with sound and the onkyo. Digital sound is a bitch to get working in Vista for some reason. Its good now though so if I update my drivers and it doesn't work then I can just roll back. And of course the onkyo not supporting 1920x1200 kinda of sucked, I used it for awhile at 1080p and it was nice just using it to switch and not messing with the signal options on the monitor. Alas, I will just use the signal options.

Anyways, seems to be all good, will give a more user like review once I use the monitor a bit.

Trying to use one of those downloadable free color profiles linked awhile back. Don't know if I set it up correct. The descriptive "how to" seemed to be missing steps toward the end for vista at least that is how it seemed.

 

[ATUCutter]

Originally posted by: starcycle
(I really wish I had a calibrator of some sort :argh: ).

Try this. LCD CALIBRATION

Hope it helps.

 

[xtknight]

Originally posted by: dragon57

Originally posted by: dragon57
Ahhh! I have too much information .

First, I currently have a 19" crt that is on its last legs. I also just turned 50 and the eyes are not what they once were. I have been looking at the lcd's available at the local big box stores and can't figure out all the dot pitch specs I have and how that relates to text size on the different size widescreen panels. I like the looks and size of the 24" wide screen panels, but have no idea how the text at native resolution on these panels will be big enough for me. Note: I normally run 1280x1024 on my 19" crt.

Can someone educate me on these things?

Finally, thanks for all the info and feedback in this thread.

I wanted to follow up on my own question. In case others are looking for the same type of info, I found this dpi calculator that has allowed me to narrow down which size will work best for my needs: http://members.ping.de/~sven/dpi.html

This is a really nice link, although it is not useful for comparing a lower resolution on a CRT to another resolution on an LCD.

What did you decide?

 

[zod96]

I just hooked up my nec 20wmgx2 and did a side by side test, man the nec blows away the samsung 923gw in color. The samsung looks a little yellow and text is a bit blurry and the nec is spot on and no dead pixels or stuck ones. I'll stick with my nec and return the samsung

 

[dragon57]

Originally posted by: xtknight

Originally posted by: dragon57

Originally posted by: dragon57
Ahhh! I have too much information .

First, I currently have a 19" crt that is on its last legs. I also just turned 50 and the eyes are not what they once were. I have been looking at the lcd's available at the local big box stores and can't figure out all the dot pitch specs I have and how that relates to text size on the different size widescreen panels. I like the looks and size of the 24" wide screen panels, but have no idea how the text at native resolution on these panels will be big enough for me. Note: I normally run 1280x1024 on my 19" crt.

Can someone educate me on these things?

Finally, thanks for all the info and feedback in this thread.

I wanted to follow up on my own question. In case others are looking for the same type of info, I found this dpi calculator that has allowed me to narrow down which size will work best for my needs: http://members.ping.de/~sven/dpi.html

This is a really nice link, although it is not useful for comparing a lower resolution on a CRT to another resolution on an LCD.

What did you decide?

I haven't decided on the actual monitor yet, however I have decided it will either be a 22" or a 26". The 24" models at native resolution have standard text that is a bit too small for me. The text on the 22" models seem to be a bit larger than my CRT and the 26" seems to have a bit larger text still.

Actually, this link seems to allow me to calculate a pretty close approximation of my crt text size versus the lcd's I am looking at. I have plugged in my crt resolution and diagonal dimension and get very close sizes on the results, so this link is every more useful to me than I would have thought.

My next conundrum is finally deciding on what to buy. I wish I could find a 22" that wasn't a TN. My favorite 22" so far is the HP W2207, but I can't find one locally with a Samsung panel. The 26" I am looking at is the NEC Lcd2690wuxi. The NEC seems to be my dream monitor, however I can't find one in person to actually look at, so I would have to order it online. I would prefer to buy locally so I could take the monitor back in case it had problems. I would hate to have to ship one back and have to wait days for a replacement.

Any and all opinions on the NEC would be appreciated.

 

[xtknight]

Originally posted by: dragon57
I haven't decided on the actual monitor yet, however I have decided it will either be a 22" or a 26". The 24" models at native resolution have standard text that is a bit too small for me. The text on the 22" models seem to be a bit larger than my CRT and the 26" seems to have a bit larger text still.

Actually, this link seems to allow me to calculate a pretty close approximation of my crt text size versus the lcd's I am looking at. I have plugged in my crt resolution and diagonal dimension and get very close sizes on the results, so this link is every more useful to me than I would have thought.

Actually you're right although a 19" LCD in visible area is different than a 19" CRT so you do have to make sure you're saying 18" for the CRT, or however big it is in viewable area.

My next conundrum is finally deciding on what to buy. I wish I could find a 22" that wasn't a TN. My favorite 22" so far is the HP W2207, but I can't find one locally with a Samsung panel. The 26" I am looking at is the NEC Lcd2690wuxi. The NEC seems to be my dream monitor, however I can't find one in person to actually look at, so I would have to order it online. I would prefer to buy locally so I could take the monitor back in case it had problems. I would hate to have to ship one back and have to wait days for a replacement.

Any and all opinions on the NEC would be appreciated.

The Lenovo 22" and Eizo 22" are not TNs, but they're not as good as the LCD26 in most aspects.

I have the LCD26 so I can tell you everything about it.

Basically, it's a great monitor and I can't find many faults with it. If you're a super hardcore gamer the input lag might put you off but other than that, it is simply not an issue for desktop use, at least for me. It felt slow at first but I got used to it.

My unit had a couple dead pixels but they haven't annoyed me much.

Colors are very vibrant. If you're a big photo editor that does work for the web a lot then this probably isn't the monitor for you due to the wide gamut backlight. Consider the LCD2490WUXi, although it has a lower font size.

This monitor's strong point is matching screen to prints but it's not the best reference for the web since most people have standard-backlight monitors.

 

[dragon57]

xtknight, what are the model numbers for the Lenovo and Eizo 22" panels you are ferring to? Is the Lenovo the L220X? If so, isn't that a 1920x1200 panel which would make the text really small?

As to the LCD2690, I do both web work and digital photo work. I also do some gaming and DVD watching. What does the sRGB mode of the 2690 do for you if you enable it?

 

[najames]

Add me and the wife to the just turned 50 club, computer glasses and regular progressive glasses, ain't life grand!!

I just bought two HP w2207 monitors and am very pleased with them so far. I can tell you that in default "text mode", text is very sharp at most resolutions (any above 800x600 that I've seen anyway) and I have seen them all in the last week. Remember in Firefox you can easily increase size of text if needed too. Default ICONs, menus, and text on the desktop is big enough and very easy to read. My other requirements of DVI/VGA and HDCP were met, and the adjustable height stand is a big plus with a short wife.

I ran the test ATUCutter mentioned. Yes, I can see some of the flaws in a TN panel when looking at the tests, but in real life I really like the monitors and so does my wife. Now THAT is a plus. The deal at Staples with a coupon for $245 each pushed me over the edge.

Xtknight, guess what, I have Linux Mint Daryna working in dual 1680x1050 extended screen mode and it kicks butt with these monitors, a 3360x1050 desktop!! My brains hurt from admin/system/programming work during the day and working on this at night until 1-2am for almost a week. For some reason fglrx was slow as snot with one monitor, but very fast in dual mode, all from the puny onboard ATI 690G video, 256M shared RAM. The only problems to solve are (a) dual mode is not static right now. It starts in clone mode, I click on ATI CCC and change to "Big Desktop" mode on the fly with a couple clicks (b) MPG video does not play now on it for some reason, a show stopper, more brain beatings required, maybe a real video card, don't know yet.

 

[UTFan81]

Originally posted by: zod96
Does anyone have any thoughts on the samsung 932GW? I just saw it at circuitcity and it looked awesome.

yeah it's nice but keep in mind it's a glossy screen. the 932bw at best buy might suit you better. won't reflect the light back messing up the picture in some cases. It's on sale this week to!

 

[UTFan81]

I find it hard to believe you don't recommend the new Samsung 2232BW. It's got a great review at this very reliable site.

http://www.behardware.com/arti...tors-the-3rd-wave.html

 

[xtknight]

Originally posted by: najames
xtknight, thanks again for all your hard work here!!!

Good News:
1) I have tested both my HP w2207 (July STM001 models) monitors and like them very much, no dead/stuck pixels like my old 19" L90D+. $520 total = good deal I think.
2) Backlight bleed is not bad at all, blank screens show an even very low lighting.
3) I REALLY like the stands easy height adjustment, haven't tried prortrait mode, likely never will.
4) they are set on "text" in onscreen menus, text is sharp/clear, even on non-native resolutions. Settings Red=291 Green=229 Blue=255, brightness/contrast=60.
5) After 4 nights of trial and error, reading, hacking, I did get current ATI drivers installed, resolution set to 1680x1050. Woohoo!!

Bad News:
1) after getting one monitor's 1680x150 resolution working with current ATI drivers, then trying to set up dual extended desktop displays, I have successfully borked Linux Mint Daryna. One display is running at 1280x800 for some reason and the other is a clone, but at 1680x1050, makes my eyes buggy. It is slower than molasses, click on quit and it takes 20seconds to open the shutdown menu. Looks like I am headed for a reinstall.

If anyone has better "calibrated" settings for a w2207, post them.

Time to build a cheap NAS for directories to hold everything so it is easier to do this often when I play too hard and crash systems. I have almost everything needed on hand. So many computers, so little time.

Glad to hear things are working out a (little) better for you.

Originally posted by: starcycle

Originally posted by: 74Norton

Like many here, I need a little advice on picking a 20-22" widescreen monitor. It will be used for basic email, web type stuff but I also will use it for photo processing (not professional). I'd like to keep in under $500 if possible. The only monitor listed in the photo editing group that fits this is the Samsung 215TW. The only place I've been able to find this monitor is at Tiger Direct ($430), and I've read mixed reviews about them.

I just bought one from there. I couldn't resist checking it out with the 30 day NQA return policy. Here's my basic take:

Beautiful monitor & screen. I really like the height/swivel adjustability, and it feels very "weighty" and quality made. The colors are *very* rich and vibrant. No backlight bleed whatsoever on the one I got (made in mexico, but I don't know the date -- more recent than the bad ones that were being reported from mexico a while ago - they must have fixed those problems). There are also plenty of hookups, but I mostly just use it as a basic monitor so I haven't tested them. Viewing angle is very good, and I haven't noticed any input lag (I'm not a gamer, though, just non-gaming uses). It sometimes seems a little slow in video rendering, but that could be my card.

The downsides of the monitor are that first, the color and especially the red is just way too saturated, imo. To give an idea, I think it comes by default at 50/50/50 (RGB), and when I turn the red down to around 20-25 reds start to look a little better. But then whites start to look green. Even bringing the red down to 45 makes a white web page have a minty green tinge.

The monitor is also *slightly* naturally dark. The black is very good, very black, but maybe because of the oversaturated colors again, a lot of things just seem too dark, like you're missing some detail. This shows up especially in movies. Web surfing is primo and very nice, excellent text rendering, good contrast -- i think the slightly larger 21" screen helps here. But again, when the monitor is adjusted for the red, all the whites and light grays looks green - not cool!

Related to the above, there is very little control possible in the settings. You can set contrast, brightness, red, green, blue levels, and the "warmth," and that's it. Compared to my much cheaper LG (204wt), which has a lot of different user settings - gamma, sRGB etc. (the latter might correspond to warmth/coolness, not sure), it just feels like you're left out to sea if you want to make more adjustments. Which is really unfortunate, because the colors themselves are vibrant and probably very accurate, but the red is just way too intense.

I tried a "Shakespeare in Love" DVD - if you've seen it, you might remember that the colors and some of the costumes (the queen, etc.) are very sumptuous. The lead actor's lips are a little naturally red, though, and on the samsung it literally looks like he's wearing lipstick. It's really pronounced. Once you start noticing things like that, all you can see is how everyone's face looks too "ruddy" or even pinkish, and how some scenes on first glance look a little dark and lacking detail. We compared a few scenes one monitor after the other, and while the 215TW was definitely a step above in pure visual richness, color depth, and "wow" factor, the LG held its own pretty well, having comparatively a more "washed out" look, but with skin tones and everything overall looking more natural and less distracting. I think samsung sets the richness to be artificially vibrant to give that "wow" factor and grab joe consumer walking down the best buy aisle. It does look good, but I think after a while it would just be too visually fatiguing. That red -- that red!

So I'm keeping the LG for now as I continue searching, I actually prefer it overall because of the samsungs shortcomings. When the samsung picture is good (blues, greens, natural fabrics, wood, stone, etc.), it's *way* better than the LG, of course. But it's really comparing apples and oranges as the LG is a TN panel, much cheaper, definitely cheaper feeling construction, etc. But I just can't live with the excessive reds of the samsung, or the green tinge when adjusting for that. Next I'm either going to try the 22" lenovo, or I guess just go to 24" instead in the search for the elusive perfect picture. I'll even take the perfect compromise at this point, but at more than twice the cost of the LG, I didn't think the samsung was it.


>>edit: see update below. cliff's: new video card helped.

That's actually pretty surprising. I'm not used to hearing reports about the 215TW being oversaturated or missing detail.

 

[xtknight]

Originally posted by: dragon57
xtknight, what are the model numbers for the Lenovo and Eizo 22" panels you are ferring to? Is the Lenovo the L220X? If so, isn't that a 1920x1200 panel which would make the text really small?

Yes, text would be small. I meant to mention this, sorry. But the Eizo is suitable, if a little expensive.

As to the LCD2690, I do both web work and digital photo work. I also do some gaming and DVD watching. What does the sRGB mode of the 2690 do for you if you enable it?

The sRGB mode does not allow the monitor to use the sRGB space. It just gets it a little closer. It's pretty far off from what you'd see on a normal sRGB monitor, still. It only changes one aspect of the monitor to be sRGB (gamma), but the backlight itself is unchangeable meaning colors will still be off.

I think that you can get by with the LCD26 if you use Photoshop and turn on sRGB emulation there.

If the LCD2490WUXi's text is big enough for you, you might consider that instead.

If you're going to get a wide gamut LCD you should make sure all the applications that are vital for your uses are color aware. (For example, Firefox Gran Paradiso supports sRGB emulation with the right options on.) You will lose a little detail in the photos since they have to be emulated but I haven't found a significant difference there that warrants not using this monitor (LCD26). You can probably deal with it but you may want a standard gamut LCD instead. Eizo has some bigger standard gamut LCDs AFAIK, but they are very expensive and they aren't IPS panels.

So, the preferred situation would be the LCD2490WUXi if the text size is big enough. And if it's not, you might consider raising DPI or even interpolation (lowering res on LCD) if that floats your boat. Overall I think the LCD24 and a DPI raising would be the best for you. A rise in DPI can screw up the interfaces of a couple apps but mostly not the big/popular ones.

 

[xtknight]

Originally posted by: zod96
I just hooked up my nec 20wmgx2 and did a side by side test, man the nec blows away the samsung 923gw in color. The samsung looks a little yellow and text is a bit blurry and the nec is spot on and no dead pixels or stuck ones. I'll stick with my nec and return the samsung

This is what I would have suspected since the 932GW is a TN. Don't be tricked by marketing because there won't be anything with better overall image quality than the 20WMGX2 for awhile yet (at least anything around its lowest price at $450). It's important to realize that many new models come out all the time, but most of them are rehashes of what is already out there; nothing new, nothing revolutionary, or maybe even worse. Not to be pessimistic or anything, but that's usually the case. And when it doesn't seem to be the case, remain skeptical and wait for reviews.

Originally posted by: najames
Add me and the wife to the just turned 50 club, computer glasses and regular progressive glasses, ain't life grand!!

I just bought two HP w2207 monitors and am very pleased with them so far. I can tell you that in default "text mode", text is very sharp at most resolutions (any above 800x600 that I've seen anyway) and I have seen them all in the last week. Remember in Firefox you can easily increase size of text if needed too. Default ICONs, menus, and text on the desktop is big enough and very easy to read. My other requirements of DVI/VGA and HDCP were met, and the adjustable height stand is a big plus with a short wife.

I ran the test ATUCutter mentioned. Yes, I can see some of the flaws in a TN panel when looking at the tests, but in real life I really like the monitors and so does my wife. Now THAT is a plus. The deal at Staples with a coupon for $245 each pushed me over the edge.

Xtknight, guess what, I have Linux Mint Daryna working in dual 1680x1050 extended screen mode and it kicks butt with these monitors, a 3360x1050 desktop!! My brains hurt from admin/system/programming work during the day and working on this at night until 1-2am for almost a week. For some reason fglrx was slow as snot with one monitor, but very fast in dual mode, all from the puny onboard ATI 690G video, 256M shared RAM. The only problems to solve are (a) dual mode is not static right now. It starts in clone mode, I click on ATI CCC and change to "Big Desktop" mode on the fly with a couple clicks (b) MPG video does not play now on it for some reason, a show stopper, more brain beatings required, maybe a real video card, don't know yet.

I do think you should get a "real" video card although I think video should work even on that onboard.

You'd have to look in documentation for the fglrx driver (read: amd/ati's site) for how to configure xorg.conf to set dual mode as default (vs. clone).

I'm glad you're happy with the w2207s though.

 

[xtknight]

Originally posted by: UTFan81
I find it hard to believe you don't recommend the new Samsung 2232BW. It's got a great review at this very reliable site.

http://www.behardware.com/arti...tors-the-3rd-wave.html

I don't recommend it because Samsung insists on using different quality panels in this LCD. And, this doesn't necessarily occur as much in France where that site is based. North America ends up with the AUO panels a lot.

 

[dragon57]

xtknight (or anyone else), do you have any opinions on the Samsung 2693HM? I just got back from Fry's Electronics and they had one. I had never seen one before and unfortunately trying to get any info out of the employees was an exercise in futility.

I know it is a TN panel, but it is the same size as the NEC 2690.

Edit: Never mind about the 2693HM. I just tracked down and chatted with a guy that bought a 2693HM at Fry's yesterday. He said it was a huge disappointment and will be returning it.

I guess my search continues.

 

[UTFan81]

Originally posted by: xtknight

Originally posted by: UTFan81
I find it hard to believe you don't recommend the new Samsung 2232BW. It's got a great review at this very reliable site.

http://www.behardware.com/arti...tors-the-3rd-wave.html

I don't recommend it because Samsung insists on using different quality panels in this LCD. And, this doesn't necessarily occur as much in France where that site is based. North America ends up with the AUO panels a lot.

yeah they did say though with the 2232bw despite Samsung still using different panels there isn't as much variation between them as there was with the 226bw. In any case what would your recommendation be right now in the $310-$350 range? I am planning on getting the 2232bw from Best Buy on sale this week unless I find something better. I perfer to buy from a store so I can return it easily if it has problems.

 

[Cheex]

Originally posted by: Cheex
Are the Gateway and the Acer the only glossy panels in this list:
If I'm going to get a TN, it might as well be glossy

???

Can anyone confirm please?

 

[xtknight]

Originally posted by: dragon57
xtknight (or anyone else), do you have any opinions on the Samsung 2693HM? I just got back from Fry's Electronics and they had one. I had never seen one before and unfortunately trying to get any info out of the employees was an exercise in futility.

I know it is a TN panel, but it is the same size as the NEC 2690.

Edit: Never mind about the 2693HM. I just tracked down and chatted with a guy that bought a 2693HM at Fry's yesterday. He said it was a huge disappointment and will be returning it.

I guess my search continues.

I don't know much about this LCD besides that it's a TN. A pretty big size for a TN too IMO. Viewing angles might be a problem, not much different than the 245BW.

Originally posted by: UTFan81

Originally posted by: xtknight

Originally posted by: UTFan81
I find it hard to believe you don't recommend the new Samsung 2232BW. It's got a great review at this very reliable site.

http://www.behardware.com/arti...tors-the-3rd-wave.html

I don't recommend it because Samsung insists on using different quality panels in this LCD. And, this doesn't necessarily occur as much in France where that site is based. North America ends up with the AUO panels a lot.

yeah they did say though with the 2232bw despite Samsung still using different panels there isn't as much variation between them as there was with the 226bw. In any case what would your recommendation be right now in the $310-$350 range? I am planning on getting the 2232bw from Best Buy on sale this week unless I find something better. I perfer to buy from a store so I can return it easily if it has problems.

Even then the 2232BW has hefty input lag (45 ms according to DigitalVersus). Big disappointment. The old 226BW had 0 to 11 or so...

http://www.digitalversus.com/d...6&mo2=284&p2=2683&ph=8

The 2032BW (20.1") I want to wait for a review of.

You can simply see the OP for 22" recommendations. Looks like prices have fallen a little also.

L226WTQ is at ~$360 now (Newegg) and might be worth that extra little.
The AL2216Wbd is a value screen that's still pretty good ($220).
The VX2255wmb might be the best choice at $310 AR.

Between the VX and the L226 I might even choose the VX. I think it has better uniformity and default colors. The VX doesn't use overdrive though so it might be just a tad slower. That means it has less input lag though, which is probably better for gamers. Hard to say because I haven't used them both. I've only used an L226WT without overdrive.

If you offered me one option only I would say VX2255.

 

[xtknight]

Originally posted by: Cheex

Originally posted by: Cheex
Are the Gateway and the Acer the only glossy panels in this list:
If I'm going to get a TN, it might as well be glossy

???

Can anyone confirm please?

Yes, I am reasonably sure that is the case. Some of the other ones have a glossy bezel only (like Westinghouse and NEC AccuSync 24").

I'm not as crazy about glossy panels as I used to be, though since I've had a good matte, so I wouldn't discard the matte panels.

P.S. The new Acer X263Wbi looks interesting, not glossy though and probably over your price range.

Edit: actually I'm not sure if the X263Wbi is glossy or not. Some of Acer's other X LCDs are (22").