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Thanks xtknight. I asked because I want to get the BenQ from Amazon (I have some gift cards to use) and the only model they have is the G2400WD.
Originally posted by: DaveStall
I am looking to upgrade from my Dell 1905FP to a new panel as I have a need for the 1905 elsewhere. My main uses for this system are gaming (mainly FPS and other graphically intense games), some amateur level photo and movie editing, and surfing. I think something in a 20" or 22" widescreen would fit well in the space I have. I am mainly intersted in the LG 227WT, LG2252, Samsung 2253BW, Dell E228, and BenQ G2200. I will confess that the reason these monitors interest me is due to price and speed. I love my 1905FP, but it isn't the fastest when it comes to games or video. From the product recommendations I am sure the LG 227WT will be the top choice, but I am not sure about the glossy screen. Are any of the others listed in the same class, or should I stick with the 227WT? Also, will I see a noticeable decrease in image quality moving to a TN panel from my 1905FP?
Thanks in advance,
Dave
Originally posted by: blingboi
the ASUS VW222u has been recommended a lot for the matte gaming 22" from what I've read
Originally posted by: Champ
I was wondering if I would see a difference between single link DVI, Dual Link DVI or HDMI, on the main page is says that HDMI then dual link, but will it make a noticable difference over single link DVI, or is it a difference that is there but you cannot tell?
Digital
HDMI (165 MHz+)
Dual-link DVI (310 MHz)
Single-link DVI (165 MHz)
Also does anyone know when we will be seeing HDMI on videocards
Originally posted by: Aggressor22
Your explanation is very easy to understand, i feel the dell 2408WFP perfectly suits my needs. Its a bonus that i can order it via my work, which comes with 5 years warrenty + its cheaper.
Gonna order this one coming monday for 550 euro's.
Btw, you seem to be right as in DisplayMate the 2408 outscored the 2470 NEC here:
http://reviews.cnet.com/lcd-mo...5-3174_7-32886455.html
Rare is that it only has a contrast ratio of 891:1 on that review, while here:
http://bp2.blogger.com/_0-tLLf...0-h/Black+Contrast.jpg
It does have 1111, which is alot more?
Anyway, this 2408wfp is better then the other considered HP lp2465 also?
Another question is, on Prad.de, they gave the 2407-HC just a + for 'Subjective impression of image quality', does the 2408 better here?
Thanks for your helpfull input, im glad to have made a choice after 3 months for search for a 24'' beast
EDIT:
Last questions xtknight, this review rates the 2408 very bad:
http://www.behardware.com/arti...th-iolair-vs-dell.html
Should i bother or not?
Second question, should i wait for the revA01 version? or can i order it now without needing to worry about big differences?
Thx
Originally posted by: blingboi
Are there any retailers carrying the ASUS VW222u, i really want to look at it before I buy it. I'm not sure buying it online and realizing I can't live with the amount of back light bleeding and would want to exchange it is cost effective.
I'm choosing it because I don't like glossy because I'm ugly and I don't like looking at my reflection and I heard it's the best gaming LCD thats matte.
Originally posted by: nirnis
My first post here, so bear with me...
A new S-IPS just appeared, the LG L2000CP and
it is quite affordable.
Anybody have any data on it?
Any better than the previous L2000C model?
Originally posted by: DaveStall
I am looking to upgrade from my Dell 1905FP to a new panel as I have a need for the 1905 elsewhere. My main uses for this system are gaming (mainly FPS and other graphically intense games), some amateur level photo and movie editing, and surfing. I think something in a 20" or 22" widescreen would fit well in the space I have. I am mainly intersted in the LG 227WT, LG2252, Samsung 2253BW, Dell E228, and BenQ G2200. I will confess that the reason these monitors interest me is due to price and speed. I love my 1905FP, but it isn't the fastest when it comes to games or video. From the product recommendations I am sure the LG 227WT will be the top choice, but I am not sure about the glossy screen. Are any of the others listed in the same class, or should I stick with the 227WT? Also, will I see a noticeable decrease in image quality moving to a TN panel from my 1905FP?
Thanks in advance,
Dave
Originally posted by: blingboi
Hey guys, i currently have a Samsung T220 and find it suitable for my tastes except one thing that bugs me, the back light bleeding at the top and bottom of the screen. You can't really see it in a well lit room, but in a darkened room there seems to be about 1/4-1/2 inch of back light bleed along the top and bottom of the monitor.
Is this plausible reason for me to go exchange it at Best Buy where I purchased it? I might get stuck with one thats worse or something. I already exchanged it once explaining there was black light bleeding and stuck or dead pixels. They told me they couldn't see anything and I realized Best Buy is extremely bright and it would be impossible to notice it but didn't say anything because they exchanged it for me anyway. They'll probably give me a hassle again and I might have to get angry and tell them that it's hard to see anything in a well lit area.
I know theres always going to be back light bleeding, so I was just wondering what everyone else's thoughts were about this.
Originally posted by: jon754
yes xknight 4:3 mode seems to work just fine. i really do wish it could do 1:1 tho so i could use it with consoles.
when i first took it out if the box i thought i made i big mistake buying it. i was horrified at how reflective the screen is lol. when it's not on the screen is like a mirror but when it's turned on you don't really notice reflections at all. the image quality is the best i've seen in an lcd monitor. like i said, the only bad things are the viewing angles and it's a little sensitive to compression artifacts in movies. after using it for a few weeks i can honestly say there's no way i could go back to my crt.
Originally posted by: DRavisher
I don't know if you've (xtknight) learned this already, but back in june 2007 I asked how LCDs updated themselves. That is, weather they buffered a whole frame and then updated all the pixles at once, which a lot of people think they do, or if they did it as the frame data came in, like a CRT does it. Anal retentive geek that I am (none of my friends are anywhere near as pleased with the solving of this mystery as I am ) I've just bought a Casio EX-F1 high-speed camera and filmed my laptops LCD. It turns out that (at least this particular) LCDs update just like CRTs. Filmed at 1200 fps it takes 20 frames for the entire screen to have begun changing from one color to another, which perfectly corresponds to a 60 Hz refresh rate.
Originally posted by: z270
Hey guys, totally newbie here. I'm wondering if I could get some advice on some monitors here.
I'm looking to get a monitor for general use for my computer, specially for gaming on PC, and as well to use for my PS3 and Bluray movies.
-So I guess what I'm looking for would be able to display 1080p resolution. I know since most monitors are 16:10 I'm looking for 1:1 pixel mapping
-HDCP Ready and preferably has HDMI Input
-Not too expensive, I'm in Canada and my budget is about 400-500$ CND perhaps a little more
-Since I'm gonna be watching HD movie as well as gaming I want to have almost perfect colours and little ghosting (This is my newbness showing, I don't know if thats even possible within my price range)
-Good quality LCD (I hear TN isn't very good) no bleeding, etc
I dont really know anything about response times and contrast and stuff like that
Anything out there that can do all of that haha?
I appreciate any help you guys can offer and sorry if I'm being troublesome
EDIT: 22-24" would be what Id have to go with to get those resolutions right?
Originally posted by: PBy
to xtknight,
just a thank you for your advice re how LCD monitors and video cards work with each other. The Eizo CE210W has now been withdrawn, so I am still looking although the NEC remains the favourite. One monitor that has recently appeared is the Samsung XL30, which has a LED backlight rather than CCFL, producing a much wider colour gamut. Has anyone any experience or thoughts about this?
Originally posted by: z28dreams
OP,
I noticed that you had the Westinghouse L2410NM 24" listed as a "display du jour", but it is not included in your rankings.
Any reason?
I'm looking for the following:
- 24" size
- primary uses will be text editing ( excel, programming, web design ) and watching movies
- inexpensive - looking to find something like $600-$700 on sale
Which would you recommend for me? My biggest gripes with most LCD monitors are black levels. Also, I'm not interested in a TN panel - only VA / IPS.
Originally posted by: PBy
Sorry, I should have typed Samsung XL20. The XL30 is way out of my price range!!
Originally posted by: Rhythmdvl2
Wow, I can?t tell you how much I appreciate this thread ? thanks! (I read probably the first ten pages until I realized that this was a 200+ page thread! I've also jsut read the past ten to fifteen pages, but please forgive me if this is repetative and my choice should already be obvious.)
I do editorial work out of a home office, so nice, clean text and long-term stare-at-ability is very important: think 8-12 hour days looking at the screen (mostly dense analytical texts for non-profits).
Since it?s a home office, I also like to shoot monsters on the same system. No movie-watching per se (save YouTube and the like), just the occasional running around with a crowbar or Gravity Gun. Though I only spend a fraction of my time with FPSs and the like, I?d really hate to downgrade the experience and have my happyfuntime turn into aggrivatedlylessthanhappyfuntime.
My wife (and business partner) does the graphic design end of the business, and she?s very happy with her 4-year old Apple 23? CinemaDisplay. Because she handles the graphics end of things, accuracy for photo editing or layout isn?t a priority on my machine (a WinBox).
I?m looking for a 24? display, as the few times I?ve done work on her Mac I?ve reallllly liked the ability to see two documents open at the same time (I?m on a 17? CRT right now, and it?s getting washed out).
I?m not sure I need any bells and whistles. I have a USB hub and external speakers, so that?s not a big deal. I?ll never hook anything but a computer to the monitor, so more than a DVI input is superfluous (unless in a few years graphics cards will evolve past that).
My budget is ~$700.
While I?ve built several machines from scratch via NewEgg and Mwave, I?m a bit leery of going with them?their monitor return policies give me a bit of pause. However, I?ve recently moved out of the city, and my brick ?n mortar options are limited (BestBuy, CircuitCity, Sears, Sams). Dell.com may be the way to go, but I can look at any online retailer with a strong customer service rep.
As I look online, I see:
Dell.com
Dell Ultrasharp 2408WFP $600
Samsung SyncMaster 245T $680
NEC ASL CD24WMCX-BK $500
BestBuy
Hanspree HF-289HJB 27.5? $530
SamsClub
Dell Ultrasharp 2407FPW $720
Circuit City
Hyundai w24OD $550
I?m currently leaning toward either the Dell or the Samsung from Dell.com, but thought to put the thinking here to see what happens. Of course, any other retailer suggestions will be greatly appreciated.
Oh, if it makes a difference, I have an Evga 7800 GTX grahics card, an AMD 64x2 4800+, and an Asus M2N4-SLI. In looking on EBay and elsewhere, I may be adding a second 7800.
Thanks!
Rhythm
Originally posted by: xtknight
The VW222u is what I'd recommend. The 1905 is a VA panel meaning you'd be taking a step down in viewing angles, but a step up in speed with the TNs.
Failing that, the Samsung 2253BW is my next choice, I guess. I believe the 2253BW is a panel lottery so you risk getting a panel with a dominance in blue.