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Originally posted by: thestain
Hi xtknight,

I bought a couple NEC Multisync 20WMGX2's a while back and on my dad's I get this video input blue box that pops up and stays on for a while unless you wait long enough or hit the menu key on the remote. This occurs if you log off and want to log back on and the box actually blocks the log in area.. and it just doesn't like to go away.. it is very annoying.

I know you have owned the monitor. Did you ever have this problem? Any idea on how to get this blue 2 3/4 inches wide by 1 1/4 inch high video input box from displaying in the just below center middle part of the Monitor or to at least make it go away faster???

I have this problem with unsupported resolutions or modes. I would point at the problem being your video card or driver, first.

I did not notice any way to get around it, but many monitors also limit menu options in unsupported modes, or show an annoying message, etc. I'm not really sure why.

Originally posted by: tmoller
I can see that Philips 230WP7NS has been removed from the list because it has been discontinuet. However, at lest here in this part of the world, it is still in the (web) shops and in stock. Can anyone tell me where is was in the recommendation list so I can see if it is worth going for (price is quite attractive now).

It's definitely up there. If you can get a good deal on it then by all means go for it. It's up there with the DoubleSight I would say. I didn't know that it was available elsewhere.

Originally posted by: mckrautski
So a ways back I asked about comparing the Samsung 275T to the NEC LCD2690. After some thought though, I decided to wait and save up a little more to get a 30". Now I'm looking at the 305T and the LCD3090WQXi. The 305T has a huge cost benefit in it's corner (almost a $1000 less than the 3090), while the 3090 has an IPS panel and has excellent image quality reportedly.

My questions are the following:

How are these 30" screens in general? Will the lag be much worse than a 27"? Will ghosting be awful if I'm doing any animation work (recreational, not profesional) on these?

IPS 30" panels are low lag, but the story may be different for VA panels. I would not expect 30" VAs to be any faster than the fastest slower VAs (2-3 frames of lag).

Does the 305T have high gamut or not? Samsung reports it at 102% NTSC in their T-series brochure (Higher than the 275T+) but I've read reviews that said it doesn't have high gamut. Was their a product refresh somewhere that improved the backlight?

Yes, there was a refresh. (Edit: it is awfully odd that every single credible review I see states that it is normal gamut, and that Amazon's description cached on Google sported wide gamut and it no longer does.) I'll have to be honest and say I'm not sure. I will shoot Samsung an e-mail and ask them about this.

Finally, does anyone know if there is a forthcoming DoubleSight version of the LCD3090?

Thanks in advance.

I don't know, but I might expect something like it. They already have a decent 26" and lower lineup.

Try the Dell 3007WFP-HC. It's a great LCD for your purposes, low lag, and not nearly as expensive as the LCD3090. If you want more inputs you should go with the Dell 3008WFP. The LCD3090 won't be getting you the extra inputs. The LCD3090 is good but at that price, only if you have a lot to spend or are an adamant print-target photo editor.
 

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Originally posted by: myerz635
hey all, i have been reading a lot of threads about 24" monitors and i am trying to decide on one under $500....it will be used for gaming/blu ray. So far i have picked out the Samsung 2493HM, the Gateway FHD2400 and recently the BenQ G2400W after reading this thread. The only one i have seen in person is the fhd2400 and i really really like glossy panels but the reviews on its color accuracy have been less than stellar. Are there any other 24" lcds i should be looking at as well? Thanks for any help you guys can offer me!

The LP2465 is $540 after rebate at Newegg. If you're willing to go through with that you could give it a shot.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/...x?Item=N82E16824176059

Otherwise, I think the G2400W is the wisest choice. ( And no I don't know about the G2400WD much yet, but I still think the G2400W regular is good. )

There is the Westinghouse L2410NM but you'd get less lag with the BenQ anyways and better scaling options.
 

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Originally posted by: hotstocks
BUT, can anyone who has used or knows about both the BenQ G2400W and the new V2400w answer
which is REALLY better? Especially for gaming on PC and Xbox 360 HDMI? Because check out the Face to Face comparison and the G2400W is actually WAY FASTER with LESS LAG???

http://www.digitalversus.com/d...&mo2=304&p2=2943&ph=12

Any reviewers please chime in on your thoughts of which of the two are better. I also went to Best Buy and looked at the Gateway FHD2400 (since I need HDMI and DVI-D HCDP) and I could not stand that the monitor totally changed colors and darkened when you move your head up or down at all. I also heard that you can not have your computer hooked up DVI and get your post/bios screen to show. Is this true?

Generally that's not true. Some video cards with bugs or missing BIOS/framebuffer video modes, bugged DVI/VGA priority may have the issue. It is not common on modern video cards but was mostly an issue with the ATI X800 series or earlier Radeons as far as I remember.

You can expect very much the same viewing angles from the V2400/G2400 as the FHD2400. I do not know about the V2400 much in general yet, but I do know it uses a low-viewing-angle TN panel.

I am coming from using a Samsung 214T which is a 1600x1200 21inch MVA screen. The colors and viewing angles are excellent, but I need widescreen 1080p now and a faster panel for games. I don't want to waste $500 on a monitor I can't stand, especially if better technology (better viewing angles, especially vertically and less lag/faster response) monitors are coming out soon.

Significantly better LCDs are not coming out. Period. OLED/SED is the future.

We will probably never see a better panel type for TFTs. 120/180 Hz was introduced a year ago and still very few LCDs use it, or the ones that do are uncomfortable to use due to flicker or jitter. The technology is only being implemented in TVs for the most part. Monitors are largely in stagnation, except for widening gamuts.

We may see affordable LED backlight monitors, or color-filter-less LCDs, but I doubt the latter will make it to market before OLEDs/SEDs. LED backlights deliver wider gamut, but not that much else. They can be a little better for photo editing and more uniform. Localized black level reducing technology can be used due to the number of backlights, but if dynamic contrast isn't your thing don't expect to like this, either. The two may be paired together like bread and butter.

The market is going in the direction of more affordable and attractive-looking TN displays (e.g. Samsung Touch of Color, or BenQ V series) and I don't see it going back to higher-quality VA panels unless the market takes an unexpected detour.

Obviously I am looking for the best looking, fastest for gaming, and has both HDMI and DVI with HDCP for use with PC (DVI and need to see my bios!), Xbox 360 HDMI, and future blue ray. I would rather be able to pick up the Gateway FHD2400 locally at Best Buy in case of stuck pixels or backlight problems for an easy return, but if one of the BenQ's are way better for all my needs (like any gamer), I would risk going mail order.
Please help....

I can't guarantee you will see your BIOS; that's generally a video card problem.

The BenQs are honestly not way better. I think the FHD2400's glossy panel and wide array of multimedia inputs with a good scaler are a big plus. So, give it a try. Color "accuracy" is not as important as "vibrancy" for most people, and I think the FHD2400 will be vibrant. It does have problems displaying darker tones, and don't expect VA viewing angles.
 

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Originally posted by: xxceler8
Thats exactly what I did. After people posting here telling me I could not go above 1368x768 or what not on an HDTV. I bought a Toshiba 52xf550, 52inch. 10-bit panel. This thing looks amazing! The color is so vivid when gaming. Of course, most modern big screens don't suffer from the lag the older sets did, and to boot it has a gaming mode that bypasses all post processing. The picture quality is much better than any other LCD I tried.

No problems running this @ full 1920x1080, 1:1 pixel.

Just goes to say, don't believe everything you read on forums, so much bad info being passed around. And also, trust your own judgement.

If the panel supports over 1368x768, of course you can! The 1920x1200 panels that support DVI, these days, have quite generous PC support. Some can have overscan problems but that's something you'll want to consult forums for. If you see something you like at the store, then there is no reason to pass it up.

But yes PC support has improved recently and there used to be more problems with it. As long as it supports DVI there's always ways around the EDID problems but not really overscan.

Originally posted by: hotstocks
P.S. A little off topic, but if money is not an issue (if well spent, futureproof), would I be better off just getting a
nice 120hz Sony or Samsung 32-40" 1080P HDTV to use as a PC monitor and for the XBOX 360? I know the picture
and viewing angles on the HDTVs are way better than any 24" monitor, but how do you know the real response time
and lag on a HDTV? Are they faster or slower than these 24" monitors and how do they look (internet/text wise) as
a computer monitor?
Thanks

The viewing angles would be about equal to 24" VA or IPS panels.

They are not really slower than the 24" panels. They might even be faster than some of them. I think it is a better idea to get an LCD TV for gaming because most of them do have high contrast and a myriad of scaling options. They also have better analog inputs support. TVs can have faster response time due to crystal structure (TVs very often have bigger dot pitch due to size vs resolution). A lot of TVs reach about a 10 ms real response time. That doesn't mean all do, however.

For a computer monitor, I am not sure I would like a TV better than a good desktop LCD like LCD2490. Better than a TN though? Very likely. Looking at big pixels for extended periods of time can not feel too comfortable for the eyes (or neck) though.
 

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Originally posted by: el33t
HI,

I'm planning to purchase a LCD monitor for gaming and Xbox 360/PS3 . I have my attention on Dell SP 2208WFP 22" and Dell E248WFP 24".

1) Please suggest me which one should I get

Neither of these models are too attractive to me.

2) Is there any other alternatives(at the same price r/ange) from any other brands like LG, Viewsonic etc?

The BenQ G2400W is a much better choice than the Dell E248WFP, for anybody. The price is very similar to that of the E248WFP. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000XUU5LG

3) Which is the cheapest 24" LCD available in market

Probably this. http://www.costco.com/Browse/P...av=&browse=&lang=en-US

( http://www.newegg.com/Product/...x?Item=N82E16824112011 )
 

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Originally posted by: MrAK
What would be the best "Gaming/Blu-ray movie viewing" monitor under 30"inches, regardless of price?? Since this is a LCD thread i thought to ask.

For this purpose I would be looking at the DoubleSight DS-263N, or possibly the Samsung 275T+. The DS-263N has less lag and a better viewing angle. The Samsung may have better contrast and maybe a better menu interface/ergonomics features. I have to say the DS-263N would take the cake for me, however, for what I care about.

The LCD2690 is another choice, but I don't think for most people it is worth the extra $400 or higher. You'll be plopping down an additional $300 for the calibration package and everything. You don't get that much of a better panel and you don't get 1080i support. I am not sure if the DS-263N supports 1080i too well either, however. I love the LCD2690 but I lament this fact about it.
 

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Originally posted by: xtknight
Originally posted by: myerz635
hey all, i have been reading a lot of threads about 24" monitors and i am trying to decide on one under $500....it will be used for gaming/blu ray. So far i have picked out the Samsung 2493HM, the Gateway FHD2400 and recently the BenQ G2400W after reading this thread. The only one i have seen in person is the fhd2400 and i really really like glossy panels but the reviews on its color accuracy have been less than stellar. Are there any other 24" lcds i should be looking at as well? Thanks for any help you guys can offer me!

The LP2465 is $540 after rebate at Newegg. If you're willing to go through with that you could give it a shot.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/...x?Item=N82E16824176059

Otherwise, I think the G2400W is the wisest choice. ( And no I don't know about the G2400WD much yet, but I still think the G2400W regular is good. )

There is the Westinghouse L2410NM but you'd get less lag with the BenQ anyways and better scaling options.

Hey man, thanks for the quick response So the G2400 is your recommendation for the best gaming/1080p content under $500 for a 24"? That really is the max i can stretch my budget at the moment unfortunately The reason the samsung and gateway are in my list is because i have $90 left on my best buy giftcard lol....and the fact that the 24" lcd roundup here on anandtech recommended both of them. The G2400WD is $399 on newegg with free shipping. Hmmmm...
 

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Originally posted by: myerz635
Originally posted by: xtknight
Originally posted by: myerz635
hey all, i have been reading a lot of threads about 24" monitors and i am trying to decide on one under $500....it will be used for gaming/blu ray. So far i have picked out the Samsung 2493HM, the Gateway FHD2400 and recently the BenQ G2400W after reading this thread. The only one i have seen in person is the fhd2400 and i really really like glossy panels but the reviews on its color accuracy have been less than stellar. Are there any other 24" lcds i should be looking at as well? Thanks for any help you guys can offer me!

The LP2465 is $540 after rebate at Newegg. If you're willing to go through with that you could give it a shot.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/...x?Item=N82E16824176059

Otherwise, I think the G2400W is the wisest choice. ( And no I don't know about the G2400WD much yet, but I still think the G2400W regular is good. )

There is the Westinghouse L2410NM but you'd get less lag with the BenQ anyways and better scaling options.

Hey man, thanks for the quick response So the G2400 is your recommendation for the best gaming/1080p content under $500 for a 24"? That really is the max i can stretch my budget at the moment unfortunately The reason the samsung and gateway are in my list is because i have $90 left on my best buy giftcard lol....and the fact that the 24" lcd roundup here on anandtech recommended both of them. The G2400WD is $399 on newegg with free shipping. Hmmmm...

The G2400W is indeed my recommendation for that. And that is OK because AFAIK the G2400W has good scaling and good color accuracy. Its viewing angles may be lacking a bit but you will get used to it. I'm not absolutely sure but the D model is probably good too. You might want to wait for reviews, because keep in mind with Newegg you can't return the LCD unless it's defective.
 

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yea, neweggs lcd policy is garbage unfortunately....viewing angles dont bother me at all so that isn't a concern "the real difference in the G2400W and G2400WD is that the WD model comes with a dynamic contrast feature which will use the backlight to make certain scenes appear darker or lighter. this function can be turned off if you dont want it." That is from one of the newegg reviews of the WD so take it for what it's worth haha http://www.newegg.com/Product/...6824014173&Tpk=g2400wd
 

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Originally posted by: myerz635
yea, neweggs lcd policy is garbage unfortunately....viewing angles dont bother me at all so that isn't a concern "the real difference in the G2400W and G2400WD is that the WD model comes with a dynamic contrast feature which will use the backlight to make certain scenes appear darker or lighter. this function can be turned off if you dont want it." That is from one of the newegg reviews of the WD so take it for what it's worth haha http://www.newegg.com/Product/...6824014173&Tpk=g2400wd

Yup I'm just afraid of unsavory "bugs" making their ways into refreshes but I am also paranoid so you can take that for what it's worth.
 

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understandable haha.....thanks for all the help, excellent thread, very well written and informative! Just out of curiousity, why didn't you recommend the samsung in my list or any other more expensive 24" models?
 

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The Philips 230WP7NS is in stock at several web places here in Europe at around USD 425. The same as a ViewSonic VP2250wb.
Or would it be worth paying 25% more (then the Philips) and go for a Lenvo L220x since the Philips is quite old on the market now?
My primary use is quite general. Not a lot of games. Mainly web surfing, office work, some 4D Cinema, etc.
 

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(I didn't get any response from Samsung about the 305T's gamut except for "give us a call".) The T-series pdf does say it is wide gamut though.

Originally posted by: myerz635
understandable haha.....thanks for all the help, excellent thread, very well written and informative! Just out of curiousity, why didn't you recommend the samsung in my list or any other more expensive 24" models?

The Samsung 245BW and 2493HM aren't as good as the G2400W. 10e has posted a few overviews of the HMs vs. the G2400 series.

The more expensive models are not as suited to gaming because they have more input lag. Additionally the BenQ has good scaling options and compatibility (actually many BenQs have, such as the FP241W).

Originally posted by: tmoller
The Philips 230WP7NS is in stock at several web places here in Europe at around USD 425. The same as a ViewSonic VP2250wb.
Or would it be worth paying 25% more (then the Philips) and go for a Lenvo L220x since the Philips is quite old on the market now?
My primary use is quite general. Not a lot of games. Mainly web surfing, office work, some 4D Cinema, etc.

No, I would say the Philips 230 is better than the L220X. The 230 sports an IPS panel, and it is bigger in size. 22" is a tad small for 1920x1200. In your case it is even cheaper. I would not say the Philips is "old" though, as the technology in it is still great. But the 2250 is a TN and can't stand up to the Philips despite the gamut.
 

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Please forgive me for not reading all 241 pages if I ask a question that's already been covered.

I currently use a HP p1230 22" CRT 1600x1200@85 so I'm only looking for 24" and larger widescreens as a replacement and I don;t want to go smaller, vertically, so 1920x1200 is minimum.

1) Why is there no mention of "other brands" like KDS or Sceptre?

2) Are they made by other companies and just re-branded?

3) I'm currently looking at the following monitors (for gaming, video/tv and home office use) and I'd like some input on each.

a) SCEPTRE X24WG-1080P - http://www.newegg.com/Product/...x?Item=N82E16824112011

b) Acer P243WAid - http://www.newegg.com/Product/...x?Item=N82E16824009125

c) KDS K-24MDWB - http://www.newegg.com/Product/...x?Item=N82E16824155054

d) KDS K-2626mdhwb - http://www.newegg.com/Product/...x?Item=N82E16824155056

EDIT:
I guess I could add the BenQ G2400WD mentioned above to the list too...

If I left any needed info out, let me know.

TIA...
 

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Originally posted by: mckrautski
So a ways back I asked about comparing the Samsung 275T to the NEC LCD2690. After some thought though, I decided to wait and save up a little more to get a 30". Now I'm looking at the 305T and the LCD3090WQXi. The 305T has a huge cost benefit in it's corner (almost a $1000 less than the 3090), while the 3090 has an IPS panel and has excellent image quality reportedly.

The NEC 3090WQXi continues the tradition of 90-series: persitantly named "for professionals" it's in fact at the same time the best universal monitor of 30" in the market.
Two DVI are enough for PC + entertainment device connection (the Dell 3008 has same number of workable inputs - 2 DVI. DisplayPort is reseved for future generations, HDMI and analogs have overscan and image cropping. By the way - analog input video quality is not sufficient for 24" already, for 30" it's nonsense).
3090 is good for gaming (lag ~28ms), unique for movies, etc. All that with H-IPS panel quality and hardware calibration option.
Watch for backlight uniformity though.
NEC 3090WQXi
 

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If the Philips 230 is recomendable at the current low price due to the A-IPS pannel. Howcome it not bought by "everyone" instead of same time displays like Samsung 2493HM or BenQ G2400W?
 

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Sorry for butting in at this stage, particularly as I thought my queries had been answered by xtknight (does he/she spend all his/her time answering all these queries?!). The Eizo CE210W which I had previously considered has been discontinued, but Eizo have introduced the CG222W (the 'W' is missing on some sites), a widescreen 1680x1050 pixel display of 22" size. They don't say what the panel type is (the viewing angles given of 178/178 may give a clue to the knowlegdable) but I suspect a s-PVA or similar. Has anyone any experience of this model? I know it is early days as it has only recently been introduced, but I NEED to get a new monitor before the aged failing 17" CRT that I am typing this on gives up the ghost.

For photo-editing (photoshop CS3, Lightroom, Serif Photoplus X2) purposes, the occasional Flight Simulator hour or so, and general use (Microsoft Office products mainly, but other office stuff), what do you good guys advise? The NEC Spectraview 2090, or the Eizo CG222 (and I am aware of the significant price differential, at least in the UK)? I am tempted to go for the NEC model, and then have a cheap TN panel 19" widescreen at its side in dual display mode; is that a viable option? (it would be cheaper than having a single Eizo CG222 widescreen). And quality?
 

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Originally posted by: tmoller
If the Philips 230 is recomendable at the current low price due to the A-IPS pannel. Howcome it not bought by "everyone" instead of same time displays like Samsung 2493HM or BenQ G2400W?

I don't think the Philips was ever widely available in the US, and it cost about $1000. It can't be found at all now, even refurbished/on clearance.

I'm not sure it is recommendable for gaming/movie use. $425 is a lot for an old, slow no-frills monitor. I admit I jumped on a deal for an old refurbished IPS monitor, but that was only $200 and it is loaded with features.

However, you're not going to be using it for any purposes that a 12ms response time would be too slow for. The viewing angles and color will be better than any other monitor at that price, and it should still be comparable to the "current" apple 23".

The best option is to try to see your potential purchases in person, of course. If you can't find them, examine comparable models.
 

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Originally posted by: iamap
Please forgive me for not reading all 241 pages if I ask a question that's already been covered.

I currently use a HP p1230 22" CRT 1600x1200@85 so I'm only looking for 24" and larger widescreens as a replacement and I don;t want to go smaller, vertically, so 1920x1200 is minimum.

1) Why is there no mention of "other brands" like KDS or Sceptre?

I do not receive review samples from them (or anyone), and I do not see reviews of them by trusted sources such as X-Bit Labs, Tom's Hardware, BeHardware, or prad. Without reviews, I can not judge a monitor. You have only the same resources as I, actually. I do not receive "insider" reviews or anything like that. Off and on I will make an exception that should hundreds of good user reviews appear about a monitor and I have an intuition that it is good, then I will recommend it, but I generally don't without a good pro review.

2) Are they made by other companies and just re-branded?

I am not sure. Sceptre I believe is actually an OEM but others may rebrand full LCD monitors made in China and elsewhere.

3) I'm currently looking at the following monitors (for gaming, video/tv and home office use) and I'd like some input on each.

a) SCEPTRE X24WG-1080P - http://www.newegg.com/Product/...x?Item=N82E16824112011

b) Acer P243WAid - http://www.newegg.com/Product/...x?Item=N82E16824009125

c) KDS K-24MDWB - http://www.newegg.com/Product/...x?Item=N82E16824155054

d) KDS K-2626mdhwb - http://www.newegg.com/Product/...x?Item=N82E16824155056

EDIT:
I guess I could add the BenQ G2400WD mentioned above to the list too...

If I left any needed info out, let me know.

TIA...

The G2400WD is what I would recommend. I just haven't seen reviews on the rest of those, but as good as the G2400W is, it is rare to see one of the others beat it.

I have read a few OK user reviews about the X24WG-1080P, but I would still be most confident recommending the G2400WD. I can't see what the Sceptre would have on the G2400 (except that it is indeed a bit cheaper, but not enough that I'd think about passing up the G2400WD).

If you spend most of your time gaming, then I would get the G2400WD. If you spend more than 50% of your time doing other things, I would consider a VA panel with a wider viewing angle which would be more expensive, but compare to your CRT better.
 

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Originally posted by: tmoller
If the Philips 230 is recomendable at the current low price due to the A-IPS pannel. Howcome it not bought by "everyone" instead of same time displays like Samsung 2493HM or BenQ G2400W?

Mostly in the OP I only recommend screens available in North America. That's mainly for convenience.

Originally posted by: PBy
Sorry for butting in at this stage, particularly as I thought my queries had been answered by xtknight (does he/she spend all his/her time answering all these queries?!). The Eizo CE210W which I had previously considered has been discontinued, but Eizo have introduced the CG222W (the 'W' is missing on some sites), a widescreen 1680x1050 pixel display of 22" size. They don't say what the panel type is (the viewing angles given of 178/178 may give a clue to the knowlegdable) but I suspect a s-PVA or similar. Has anyone any experience of this model? I know it is early days as it has only recently been introduced, but I NEED to get a new monitor before the aged failing 17" CRT that I am typing this on gives up the ghost.

CG222W 300 1000:1 6 gtg 178/178 Samsung S-PVA LTM220M3

I am not sure if this is correct, but this is what I see online about its panel. I don't recommend S-PVAs over S-IPS panels for photo editing. The CG222W is wide gamut, meaning it is also a worse choice for general sRGB photo editing use.

For photo-editing (photoshop CS3, Lightroom, Serif Photoplus X2) purposes, the occasional Flight Simulator hour or so, and general use (Microsoft Office products mainly, but other office stuff), what do you good guys advise? The NEC Spectraview 2090, or the Eizo CG222 (and I am aware of the significant price differential, at least in the UK)? I am tempted to go for the NEC model, and then have a cheap TN panel 19" widescreen at its side in dual display mode; is that a viable option? (it would be cheaper than having a single Eizo CG222 widescreen). And quality?

I would recommend the 2090 for the reasons above. I am not sure if the response time of the 2090 will be as fast, but it will probably have less input lag.
 

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Thanks for the reply, I didn't mean to imply you had inside info but you clearly know more about LCD monitors than I do.

I've had KDS CRTs in the past and they weren't bad and I really don't see a lot of difference in the specs for the 26" KDS or the 24" BenQ but they're the same price. The Sceptre is nice and cheap but no HDMI nor HDCP. The 24" KDS is cheap but has a low contrast ratio. That's all I can see, I hoped you might be able to see something that I missed.

I do spend less than 50% of my time gaming but I do want good gaming performance and I want movies/tv to look good too. When I do play games it's almost always FPS shooters. As far as my other workstation apps/web browsing/etc, any monitor would be fine.

My current basic HW specs are:
Abit ab9-pro
Intel C2D 6600
2G DDR2 Ram (handles 8G with 64Bit OS)
XP-Pro (may be upgrading to Vista64 when they work out more bugs)
Asus EN8800GT 512M (DVI (no HDMI))
HP p1230 22" CRT

Thanks for the input...

 

hotstocks

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About the BenQ's:
I don't get why the V2400W is any better than the G2400W? The G2400W has less lag, and they both have the same inputs, color accuracy, and lousy viewing angles. Is the V2400W any better vertical viewing angle wise, if not then the G2400W is still the better monitor?
 

PBy

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Thanks again for the info; I think that I will go for the NEC, with its S-IPS panel, first, and then...........
 

Denithor

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Since I've been looking at these I'll chime in here as well. Trustedreviews has looked at the G2400W and the V2400W.

They had this to say about the V2400W:

BenQ's latest belongs to that rare breed of monitor where the dynamic contrast processing actually works.

I would assume that the G2400WD features the same DCP (that's why it's rated for 4000:1 I believe) so it should be a nice monitor. Now I'm glad I held off buying the G2400W.

EDIT: Anyone have any experience with Provantage.com for LCD monitors? If not these guys, who are the recommended vendors with the best return policies for BenQ monitors?
 
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