[Retired] The LCD Thread

[xtknight]

Originally posted by: noname4

These are all S-IPS panels, although the 2070NX is an older rev. The LP2065 and 2007FP are lotteries between AMVA and S-IPS, with the majority being S-IPS from what I can tell. I believe all have very fuzzy matte (far from glossy) coatings, so make sure you don't mind that too much. It's not that bad but it'll take some getting used to. With that, I recommend the LP2065 as the most reliable out of all those. I have seen the 2007FP S-IPS in person and I think it's a very nice LCD for desktop use. Haven't seen the LP2065 but it's essentially the same thing, cheaper, and comes with perhaps a higher chance of getting an S-IPS.

The only thing that is throwing me off from the hp is I heard it has a high input lag, and I will be playing games. I need to get an LCD from a place with a great return policy (online) as I went through hell getting newegg to give me a refund for a samsung, Also no restocking fee would be nice.

Did the dell you saw have any flickering?
I would just get a NEC 2090 but that is too far out of my price range.

thanks

The Dell I used had no flickering and no input lag that I could tell. (I can tell the input lag a bit with my LCD2690.) I don't think the LP2065 has any more input lag than the 2007FP. They use the same electronics AFAIK.

They may not be the fastest for gaming response time wise, but if you want an overdriven S-IPS/AMVA those are your choices. I still think they are fairly fast while having accurate response time control.

I think if you get it from Dell you can return it for any reasons within a certain period.

 

[xtknight]

Originally posted by: dowhopdedodo
Thanks in advance to xtknight for the extensive, hard work involved in putting together this thread.

I've got a question, or request for recommendation between two finalists in a bang-for-buck LCD purchase.

I do extensive imagining work using a Wacom tablet, which I assume will be influenced by input lag. I don't know what to expect because I've always used Sony CRTs (G520 atm). Despite my imaging work, I don't usually go to print. So, absolute color proofing isn't that critical and I would sacrifice some color quality to obtain lag free stylus input.

I was on the verge of buying Dell's 2408WFP now that they're shipping rev A01 as it addresses some of the reported issues, primarily input lag and sharpness controls. Some reviews say it calibrates very well. Yours was less enthusiastic about that.

Keep in mind I don't formally review LCDs (with the exception of ones I own). I never saw the 2408 in person however I don't believe the input lag will be reduced. That's just my sentiment. But nor did I see a consistent lag figure for this display. I've seen it all over the place so I don't know what to believe. What I think is that it's 4 frames of lag.

It's currently available for $750 and an X-rite Eye One Display 2 adds $200 for a total of $950.

Then someone on the Dell Monitors forum linked to this thread and the NEC LCD2690WUXi and my certainty was undermined.

Comparatively, the Dell is a 24" and the NEC 26." So, some price disparity is appropriate. (The NEC 24" is nearly the same price as the 26" oddly enough.) Furthermore, your review and the recommendation chart above rate the NEC best for multimedia and print critical. So, it seems the NEC is the obvious choice excepting the QA concerns your review raised. Moreover, the SV version comes with their SpectraView for only $150 more.

Yes, well I will have to be honest with you. I own the LCD2690 but now that a cheaper DoubleSight DS-265W is coming out very soon, that's a good choice. And as you may know, the DS-305W (I think that's an IPS) is out now.

I've found the NEC LCD2690WUXi-SV for $1,169, which seems a no brainer but for these remaining considerations:

1) Will the bundled SpectraView still require purchase of iOne Display 2 colorimeter?

It includes the SpectraView kit as far as I know, which includes an NEC-branded i1 Display 2 and SpectraView US software.

2) How serious are the NEC QA concerns and what should I watch out for?

I'm not a wealthy guy. I do want to get the best I can, but I'm at the outer reaches of my budget already and the $180 iOne added to the $1169 is pushing the limit. Suggestions or recommendations would be most appreciated.

Thanks.

As far as I know the SV model includes the colorimeter. I don't want to say anything for sure and have you get it not knowing that, obviously. But I got the regular model and used an i1 that I had, and purchased the $100 software only. The kit is something like $250 separately which also includes the colorimeter. Again, I think the SV model includes the whole kit.

As for QA concerns, the LCD2690 has had some problems with those subtle horizontal lines on the panel, and mine (still has) 2 dead pixels. The lines are basically unnoticeable, the pixels are a tad more annoying but certainly do not impede general use of the monitor much (at least where mine are located). NEC may let you swap for another refurb so you can see if you get a better unit if you are really disappointed with your first. The LCD2490 had slightly better luck with QA and I would recommend that instead if you do mostly normal gamut (sRGB) work. Remember even when you calibrate an LCD26 you're not going to get sRGB. I went over that in my review. The only reason I really got the LCD26 is because I like to experiment with things and don't mind using the color profiles that yield slightly less quality with standard pictures. So, make sure the LCD2690 is what you want. If you think it is, then it's certainly a monitor with outstanding image quality. You won't get quite the contrast of the G520 (a Trinitron), but nor will you with other LCDs. This LCD still has a good contrast, but even better image fidelity and accuracy matching closer to the Adobe RGB 1998 space.

I had someone here using a Wacom tablet and recommended them an NEC LCD24/26. I am pretty sure that I heard back from them saying they felt no lag and everything was A-OK. So I wouldn't worry about it. Coming from a CRT (the other user did too) though you oughta expect a little but you'll get used to it.

 

[xtknight]

Originally posted by: threesixty

Originally posted by: xtknight

The Dell 3007WFP-HC or HP LP3065 are nice panels that will save you a lot of money and perform roughly the same. I think I have heard the Dell having less QC issues than the HP but I can't confirm that.

The 3008WFP is also a money waster besides the extra connections you get.

Thanks xtknight

Though I notice on Dell's site that the $2000 Dell 3008 WFP tech specs state:
"117%1 of NTSC color gamut ... accurate color representation better tones and hues, and can support up to Adobe 98 color standard."

Whereas the $1399 Dell 3007WFP-HC does not cite any specs re colour gamut.
The two panels have significantly different contrast ratios and brightness values, so I can only assume they have different gamuts too.
Supporting close to or all of the Adobe 98 colour gamut is important for us.

Re profiles, we do run profiles, which are easy to add to the system in OS X. However, when doing work for screen, we generally turn colour management off. The variability in settings on user's monitors is so great, that we just aim for a reasonable middle ground and check it out on a few sample systems.

When you talk about using profiles, are you talking about ICC profiles for sRGB written specifically for the monitor? Or are you talking about generating a custom sRGB profile for the monitor using the Spyder calibrator?

Cheers

360

The Hi-Color (HC) suffix is Dell's term for the wide gamut backlight.

The 3008WFP does not offer $800 more gamut compared to the 3007WFP-HC (you can see for yourself): http://www.digitalversus.com/d...8&mo2=237&p2=2302&ph=7

That's up to you to decide if it's worth it, personally I don't think so though.

The high contrast ratio for the 3008WFP is when the dynamic backlight is used. You won't want that for editing, because that means your brightness (or maybe even colors) change based on the scene. For static contrast ratio they are both S-IPS panels with no difference.

I think the 3007WFP-HC will do you just fine.

When I mean to use a profile I mean to use the gamut profile of the monitor. That can be generated with a colorimeter (it is usually in the ICC/ICM the software generates), or it can also be found on the CD. The ICC/ICM on the CD includes only a gamut model, not a calibration/lookup table. Gamut varies extremely little per unit of the same model, while calibration can vary a lot more.

I hope that helps you with your decision and helps you save money along the way. If you think you need the extra 5-10% gamut I can't prevent you from getting it though. The 3008WFP is a great LCD too with more connection options. I don't recommend it solely on its $2000 price tag. You can get the NEC LCD3090WQXi for around that.

If higher color gamut LCDs weren't on the horizon, that's one thing, but when LED backlights come or become more affordable in IPS form, you'll be glad you saved that money for the small improvement in gamut now to get a big improvement later. It's not only the gamut but also LEDs will allow deeper blacks to local dimming (there's like 300 LEDs, just dim where you need it black), and better uniformity (adjust the 300 LCDs to be consistent, like NEC ColorComp).

 

[xtknight]

Originally posted by: hans030390
I wasn't getting anything from the FS forums, but does anyone have a 19" or larger widescreen monitor that supports HDCP that they'd be interested in selling? I'm using it for my PS3...the bigger, the better. And 1:1 pixel mapping/scaling would be fantastic.

If not, could someone point me in the right direction?

You would probably get more results at HardForum, craiglist, or eBay.

Do keep in mind it's hard to find a 19" with 1:1. Actually I can't think of a single one off my head but that doesn't mean they don't exist.

 

[ThanatosGOD]

Thanks once again xtnight!

NEC made my decision very easy anyway. After much attempted persuasion on my part, they refused to exchange any LCD for the 20WMGX2. It did seem strange to me that they were able to provide the LCD22WMGX so easily and yet nothing else despite my willingness to pay more for another product. Nonetheless I'm happy to get back a new 20WMGX2; at least I know I'll be happy with it.

NEC confirmed they don't sell the LCD2490WUXi in the UK. I think I'll hold off for a 1920 x 1200 IPS display with greater connectivity. I do think I would eventually want the extra space of the higher res, but maybe not the size of a 26" LCD.

Thanks in any case for your advice. I'm looking forward to receiving the 20WMGX2/Pro; I really appreciate it more now thanks to my time with the less than great TN LCD22WMGX.

 

[xtknight]

Originally posted by: Sanantonio

I am looking for a monitor to plug into my Macbook through the mini-dvi which I will use primarily for hobby photo-editing. Therefore, the more accurate the better, however if a cheaper monitor is close to higher cost monitors, then I would lean cheaper.

It seems the monitor suggested for my cheap/photo requirements is the HP LP2065, however the price on that is now $395.99 [VA] for the EF227A4#ABA, and $503 [IPS] for EF227A8#ABA. Do these still present a good value. I am somewhat attracted to the 4:3 for editing both portrait and landscape, and the ability to rotate the screen to portrait mode (particularly for 16:10 ratio).

The LP2065 is a good idea, and the price/models don't seem to have anything to do with whether you get a VA or IPS panel. I would just go with the cheaper one.

How does this compare to what seems to be other suggestions on the thread.

LG L227WTG 22" $339
Lenovo D221 $307
Lenovo 220x
22": Asus VW222U $260

BenQ G2400WD 24-Inch is interesting, although size is not critical, if it presents a good photo value - the extra two inches would be attractive.

Additionally, is there any reliable way to determine if a screen is TN, VA, IPS - I have been using viewing angles and assuming that the 176-78 range is going to be VA or IPS.

Thanks

You're pretty much right but I cover the viewing angle thing in the OP.

I still think the LP2065 is the best idea at the moment. But the Lenovo L220X is also a good deal if you want a 22" photo editing screen. TNs are not preferred for photo editing. Most of those LCDs are in my OP and the panel type is listed.

 

[xtknight]

Originally posted by: gevorg
Dell 2408WFP vs Samsung 245T

Alright, after a bunch of reading of various reviews and user feedback I have narrowed my choices to Dell 2408WFP or Samsung 245T. I believe the Dell uses the same Samsung panel as 245T, so the image quality between them will be pretty much the same. The Difference is in backlight, Dell's one is brighter. Now which one is a better choice for movies? I would prefer the one that shows better blacks and also better detail in dark scenes.

I'm more confident recommending the Dell 2408WFP. It may have less input lag than the Samsung 245T. Other than that, there is not going to be much difference. The Dell has more inputs and more scaling options. If you order from Dell you get a better return policy than if you order from Newegg, too. So, the 2408WFP is just a better choice for most people.

Reviews of the 245T and 2408WFP are available at BeHardware:

245T: http://www.behardware.com/arti...03ws-samsung-245t.html
2408WFP: http://www.behardware.com/arti...th-iolair-vs-dell.html

The 245T has worse default color accuracy, and it looks like it has worse contrast as well (or higher black depth).

 

[xtknight]

Originally posted by: qz33
Does anyone know what type of Monitor this thing uses? It looks pretty good.

Sony VAIO LT Series HD PC/TV All-In-One LT29U http://www.hdtvlounge.net/sony/vaio-lt-hd/

All I can find is this - The Vaio LT features a 22-inch diagonal WSXGA+ widescreen display, with Sony?s XBRITE-HiColor LCD technology for excellent colors and image quality.

It's very likely it's a TN. It's a lot less likely it's an S-PVA, and extremely unlikely it's an S-IPS. I hope that helps.

P.S. it may also be wide gamut and glossy.

 

[qz33]

It did look good though. xtknight on a related note do you know any details about this service? http://www.screentekinc.com/so...rite-lcd-screens.shtml

I would love to have a glossy 30 inch.

 

[BassBomb]

Originally posted by: qz33
It did look good though. xtknight on a related note do you know any details about this service? http://www.screentekinc.com/so...rite-lcd-screens.shtml

I would love to have a glossy 30 inch.

I think that is just for laptops.

 

[xtknight]

Originally posted by: qz33
It did look good though. xtknight on a related note do you know any details about this service? http://www.screentekinc.com/so...rite-lcd-screens.shtml

I would love to have a glossy 30 inch.

I think that having a monitor combined with a computer would drive me nuts because I would want to upgrade the monitor. If I used a video output then I would be stuck with another monitor I didn't want.

I haven't had any experience with the glossy service. I don't know of any 30" glossy panels, either, although there are some 24" glossies.

 

[Stormer]

For anyone interested -- and I'm considering it -- here, apparently, is a source for the NEC 20WMGX2.

http://www.insight.com/site/pr...ing=Results_Full_Specs

Price is steep -- $611. Saw a refurbished unit on ebay, which looks like it will go for roughly $250-300 including shipping (from GB). Anyone know of any other sources?

 

[Afrd2shtstrngerS]

Hello there,
First of all thank you xtknight; you built a very informative thread here. After skimming this thread, I have couple of questions and I am all open to your suggestions.

I would like to connect my Dell Latitude D630 laptop (Core 2 Duo T9300, 2gb ram, X3100 video card) to an external LCD monitor and my preferences are:

1) 19" to 22" S-IPS panel
2) would like to have DVI or HDMI input
3) would like to have HDCP compatibility
4) would like to have a higher resolution

All I am doing is web surfing and photoshop related tasks. My budget allows me to go up to $300 and in the recommendation sections I found the HP LP2065 (20.1"). Are there any other contenders I should look at it?

Thanks in advance.



PS: I forgot to mention that I found Dell 2007WFP as another option; however I am not sure if all of them come with S-IPS panels.

 

[xtknight]

I picked up a L227WTG-PF and I can test it for a couple weeks. If you're interested, let me know what you would like to see tested. It's the fastest LCD I've ever seen, and doesn't have as much input lag as my NEC. It actually made my cheap wireless mouse/keyboard setup seem not so slow.

I chose it over an HP w2207h adjacent to it at the store, because the LG had good ratings on prad. I am very impressed by the viewing angles for a TN. There is some backlight bleeding but not that bad. Movie mode really delivers nice contrast and is not too annoying for multimedia use, but for general use, you'd want to use USER or NORMAL mode.

My unit from Best Buy only came with a VGA cable, not a DVI. I didn't like that much but I have plenty lying around anyway.

It has a little bit of screen door effect, and the panel lining is quite easily visible up close. It's actually not as noticeable as the wider horizontal lines on the LCD26 panel, though.

 

[xtknight]

Originally posted by: Afrd2shtstrngerS
Hello there,
First of all thank you xtknight; you built a very informative thread here. After skimming this thread, I have couple of questions and I am all open to your suggestions.

I would like to connect my Dell Latitude D630 laptop (Core 2 Duo T9300, 2gb ram, X3100 video card) to an external LCD monitor and my preferences are:

1) 19" to 22" S-IPS panel
2) would like to have DVI or HDMI input
3) would like to have HDCP compatibility
4) would like to have a higher resolution

All I am doing is web surfing and photoshop related tasks. My budget allows me to go up to $300 and in the recommendation sections I found the HP LP2065 (20.1"). Are there any other contenders I should look at it?

Thanks in advance.



PS: I forgot to mention that I found Dell 2007WFP as another option; however I am not sure if all of them come with S-IPS panels.

The 2007FP, 2007WFP, and LP2065 are all lotteries. With the LP2065 it seems you have a higher chance of getting an S-IPS panel, though.

Make sure you think it's worth it to get a smaller IPS panel over a bigger TN. For most people, it probably isn't worth it, but if you do some photo editing or are very particular about color shifts then IPS is the only choice. S-IPS will deliver a high quality image with fine details of photos fully intact, but not always a high dynamic range (dark black, bright white) one. Which one is best for you depends on what you use it for.

The LP2065 doesn't have HCDP compatibility but it is nevertheless a good choice. It's $390 now on Newegg however.

If you primarily do games on the computer, a TN is a better choice. If most of your time is spent on general use (web, e-mail, desktop, dialog, "flat colored" things) then an IPS panel is better. VA panels aren't better than good TNs any more at sizes below 23", or they might be worse since more advancement is going towards the TNs. For movies, IPS panels are fairly nice and have less bleeding than TNs or VAs.

 

[thecrimsonblur]

Hello all. First, I'd like to thank xtknight for his great topic. I learned a lot.

I am building a new PC and my only remaining part is the monitor. I want to be able to connect my Xbox 360 (via either VGA or component, preferably VGA; I don't have an elite for HDMI) and Wii (component) as well as my PC. Having another input for a future PS3 would be nice, but not required. Recently, Microsoft has expanded their VGA compatibility to 1680x1050 so that is the native resolution I am aiming for. 22" would be ideal. Something like this: http://www.pcvonline.com/productDetails.aspx?id=5796.

Any suggestions? I want to see my options before deciding. Thanks again.

 

[xtknight]

Originally posted by: thecrimsonblur
Hello all. First, I'd like to thank xtknight for his great topic. I learned a lot.

I am building a new PC and my only remaining part is the monitor. I want to be able to connect my Xbox 360 (via either VGA or component, preferably VGA; I don't have an elite for HDMI) and Wii (component) as well as my PC. Having another input for a future PS3 would be nice, but not required. Recently, Microsoft has expanded their VGA compatibility to 1680x1050 so that is the native resolution I am aiming for. 22" would be ideal. Something like this: http://www.pcvonline.com/productDetails.aspx?id=5796.

Any suggestions? I want to see my options before deciding. Thanks again.

If you need a component input that's one of your few choices. And really I don't think it's too bad of a choice.

You can check out the glossy Gateway HD2200/HD2201 too: http://www.gateway.com/retail/hd2201.php

 

[thecrimsonblur]

Originally posted by: xtknight

Originally posted by: thecrimsonblur
Hello all. First, I'd like to thank xtknight for his great topic. I learned a lot.

I am building a new PC and my only remaining part is the monitor. I want to be able to connect my Xbox 360 (via either VGA or component, preferably VGA; I don't have an elite for HDMI) and Wii (component) as well as my PC. Having another input for a future PS3 would be nice, but not required. Recently, Microsoft has expanded their VGA compatibility to 1680x1050 so that is the native resolution I am aiming for. 22" would be ideal. Something like this: http://www.pcvonline.com/productDetails.aspx?id=5796.

Any suggestions? I want to see my options before deciding. Thanks again.

If you need a component input that's one of your few choices. And really I don't think it's too bad of a choice.

You can check out the glossy Gateway HD2200/HD2201 too: http://www.gateway.com/retail/hd2201.php

Thank you! I like the Gateway better, my only problem with the Samsung was the bulky bottom.

Edit: In this thread we are considering either a VGA box or a component to VGA converter for my Wii. Do you know how those affect picture quality? Should I just stick with the Gateway or would getting a VGA box (which is costly in its own right) give me significantly better options?

 

[xtknight]

Originally posted by: thecrimsonblur

Originally posted by: xtknight

Originally posted by: thecrimsonblur
Hello all. First, I'd like to thank xtknight for his great topic. I learned a lot.

I am building a new PC and my only remaining part is the monitor. I want to be able to connect my Xbox 360 (via either VGA or component, preferably VGA; I don't have an elite for HDMI) and Wii (component) as well as my PC. Having another input for a future PS3 would be nice, but not required. Recently, Microsoft has expanded their VGA compatibility to 1680x1050 so that is the native resolution I am aiming for. 22" would be ideal. Something like this: http://www.pcvonline.com/productDetails.aspx?id=5796.

Any suggestions? I want to see my options before deciding. Thanks again.

If you need a component input that's one of your few choices. And really I don't think it's too bad of a choice.

You can check out the glossy Gateway HD2200/HD2201 too: http://www.gateway.com/retail/hd2201.php

Thank you! I like the Gateway better, my only problem with the Samsung was the bulky bottom.

Edit: In this thread we are considering either a VGA box or a component to VGA converter for my Wii. Do you know how those affect picture quality? Should I just stick with the Gateway or would getting a VGA box (which is costly in its own right) give me significantly better options?

Sorry, I don't know much about these devices.

I think it's a good idea though for the future. I still say stick with the Gateway because it may have better multimedia processing (scaling) etc. Not sure, but at least their higher models do. And I like the glossy panel.

 

[Liran xD]

Hello

I'm looking for a 22 inch monitor, I'm almost certain I'll take the Samsung 2243BW but few things concern me about it since there is not even one professional review of it on the web so some things aren't clear..(I've seen the review @ HotHardware)
first it's input lag it has avg of 30ms input lag and minimum of 21ms!(from digitalversus)..in what category of monitor use it should bother me if at all ?
second, Gaming.. 5ms should do the trick but yet I cannot know for sure if there will be ghosting

If there is any professional review I would glad to see it-
if not please give your opinion for the two parameters I'm concerned about(tell me if you are talking from experience or estimation) .

Thanks in advanced,
Liran.

 

[xtknight]

Originally posted by: Liran xD
Hello

I'm looking for a 22 inch monitor, I'm almost certain I'll take the Samsung 2243BW but few things concern me about it since there is not even one professional review of it on the web so some things aren't clear..(I've seen the review @ HotHardware)
first it's input lag it has avg of 30ms input lag and minimum of 21ms!(from digitalversus)..in what category of monitor use it should bother me if at all ?
second, Gaming.. 5ms should do the trick but yet I cannot know for sure if there will be ghosting

It looks like it has 2 frames or less. That won't bother you for most use.

If there is any professional review I would glad to see it-
if not please give your opinion for the two parameters I'm concerned about(tell me if you are talking from experience or estimation) .

Thanks in advanced,
Liran.

I haven't seen pro reviews on this monitor either, and have no experience with the monitor.

Are there any 22" panels available in your country that are listed in the OP?

 

[Liran xD]

Yup it's almost average of 2 frames, I play quite a lot, that's why i'm concerned about it. What is "OP" ?
Thanks.

 

[Stormer]

Technical Question for xtknight:

Just got an Acer F-20 (P-MVA). It's not bad for my purposes -- hours of word processing and, recently, a bit of professional photo editing. I don't play games. Monitor in hooked to a Matrox P650 Card (DVI-D). I use ClearType instead of the card's anti-aliasing. While I was testing a companion monitor (A Neovo E-19) I noticed that the F-20' was running at 1600X1024 instead of it listed max resolution of 1680X1050. I double checked all drivers. F-20 was running under a 2005 Acer supplied driver. I was swapping monitors around and when I reconnected the F-20, it ran at first under XP's 2001 Plug & Play driver and at the native 1680X1050. I uninstalled that, reinstalled the F-20 and it dropped down to 1600X1024 again. Here's the strange thing: the text looked better, much better, at 1600X1024 than at the max, 1680X1050 where it was so sharp the glyphs looked almost frayed. Any ideas why the lower produced text easier on the eyes?

 

[xtknight]

Originally posted by: Liran xD
Yup it's almost average of 2 frames, I play quite a lot, that's why i'm concerned about it. What is "OP" ?
Thanks.

OP means original post, the first page of the thread where I recommend panels and have technical info.

Originally posted by: Stormer
Technical Question for xtknight:

Just got an Acer F-20 (P-MVA). It's not bad for my purposes -- hours of word processing and, recently, a bit of professional photo editing. I don't play games. Monitor in hooked to a Matrox P650 Card (DVI-D). I use ClearType instead of the card's anti-aliasing. While I was testing a companion monitor (A Neovo E-19) I noticed that the F-20' was running at 1600X1024 instead of it listed max resolution of 1680X1050. I double checked all drivers. F-20 was running under a 2005 Acer supplied driver. I was swapping monitors around and when I reconnected the F-20, it ran at first under XP's 2001 Plug & Play driver and at the native 1680X1050. I uninstalled that, reinstalled the F-20 and it dropped down to 1600X1024 again. Here's the strange thing: the text looked better, much better, at 1600X1024 than at the max, 1680X1050 where it was so sharp the glyphs looked almost frayed. Any ideas why the lower produced text easier on the eyes?

When the text is scaled, some antialiasing is applied to the interpolation. I don't even know why it's running at 1600x1024 at all but XP and higher should be able to detect native res fine.

Is there any reason you're using a Matrox card instead of NVIDIA/ATI? You may get better LCD compatibility with the latter (like scaling options), but I'm not sure about that. You did say the card had some type of antialiasing on it? Is that for fonts or for graphics?

I'm glad you like the LCD, though. You can try the ClearType tuner to adjust the gamma to match your LCD more closely. Maybe then, text artifacts will disappear and things will get sharper. ClearType does actually make things sharper because it uses adjacent subpixels instead of full square pixels to draw the text.

 

[dawgies]

Originally posted by: Afrd2shtstrngerS

First of all thank you xtknight; you built a very informative thread here. After skimming this thread, I have couple of questions and I am all open to your suggestions.

I have to echo this comment as well as that of other posters. You've done a remarkable job of creating an informative thread. I've spent quite a bit of time trying to read through as many posts as possible.

I currently have a Dell Ultrasharp 1905FP with the Samsung panel. No dead pixels, no banding, nice color....good monitor. The only time I'm aware of issues is when I order prints of photos and they look somewhat different than what I'm seeing on my monitor. I do not game. Most important is text quality/no eye strain. I'm just getting into photography and had read that IPS panels are better for digital editing. I'd like a larger landscape, but don't want to change if I'm not significantly improving over the quality I have now. Is calibration as important on VA panels as IPS?

Am considering:
1) Doublesight DS-263N or 263W
2) HP LP2465
3) Doublesight DS-243W

I'd appreciate input on these options. Thanks!