[Retired] The LCD Thread

[xtknight]

Originally posted by: oPEEPINGTOMo
Question, with ONLY gaming as top priority, would the LG L227WT still be the top choice with input lag being the main concern (First Person Shooters!) and response time being right behind/next to it as another top concern?

Or is there a panel that would be better now?

I know MLG uses the Viewsonic NX2232w.

Anyways thanks in advance.

Also, just to make sure in case the LG is still the best, the L227WTGPF is the same thing as the reviewed L227WT right....?

Yes, the LG is the best gaming monitor based on my experience with it and prad's review.

Also, the L227WTG-PF has equivalent performance to the L227WT that we are aware of. In short, it's a display that will be great gaming.

 

[xtknight]

Originally posted by: Araemo
Are there any decent, 20"-22" IPS(or similar quality) panels around anymore? I wanted an original 2005FPW, but it was turned into a panel lottery before I had the money.. Then the 20WMGX2 was discontinued before I had the money..

Are either of these monitors good for gaming plus photo editing?
NEC ASLCD22WMGX-BK
NEC LCD2090UXi

HP LP2065 and Dell 2007FP, if you win the lottery (which has actually been higher IPS lately). No widescreens that I am aware of.

IMO forget about the first, but the second should be a great choice. Check out the X-Bit review: http://www.xbitlabs.com/articl...splay/20inch-5_18.html

At that price you might decide you want an LCD2490WUXi (24" H-IPS) though.

 

[xtknight]

Originally posted by: mphartzheim
I'm currently running with two 20" Sceptre monitors (The X20WG-Naga and X20G-Naga III). I bought them a year apart mainly because of the price. The picture quality, to me, is good enough but the physical quality of both of them has turned out to be trash. For one reason or another, I'm looking to replace both of them now.

From what I'm reading here, the LG L227WTG-PF is one of the highest recommended monitors right now. Two reasons that I'm not too thrilled with that monitor is I don't want to spend close to $700 to replace my two monitors, and I'm worried that 22" may be too big for the space I have. (My 20" monitors is just about perfect.)

Now, I mentioned not wanting to spend $700 because price is a concern, but I'm not going to let it dictate what I buy this time around. (Buying the Sceptres based on price was a mistake.) I'd like to get two 20" monitors for between $400-500, but I'll spend more if the recommendation is good enough.

My main use is gaming. Are there any 20" monitors that can be recommended as highly as the LG L227WTG-PF?

Thanks!

Edit: Feel free to tell me the LG L227WTG-PF is going to be my best bet. I'll accept that answer, I'd just like to know if there are 20" models I'm overlooking first. =)

Well if you really want a nice dual setup then I might suggest two HP LP2065s or Dell 2007FPs, but that might be out of your budget.

I just don't think bigger TNs work well in dual setups. Although, the L227 is about as good as you can get for a TN panel. I don't feel at this point that any 20" monitors exceed the L227. The volume of 20" panels on the market has become very low in relativity to 22" and 24-27".

The HP w2007 or Samsung 2053BW are respectable choices though if you don't want to go 22".

 

[xtknight]

Originally posted by: Kai920
Does anyone know what this issue is called?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rYlrW8vHfsk

It's on a 3-year old Viewsonic VP201b. Warranty is expired so it's probably not worth it to take it in and pay for repairs...

No clue, but I would definitely buy a new one and not bother with sending it in. The HP LP2065 or Dell 2007FP are good replacements.

Originally posted by: FordGT
I returned my Samsung 2232BW+ and got the HP w2207h instead. Much better colors, blacks and whites. The glossy screen is really nice plus I got a Samsung panel. STM003.

The problem however is that I just had to pick the one with the dead pixels, or sub pixels actually, and they are right in the middle of the screen. I've tried rubbing, flicking and color changing it without any success. For $400 I can't accept that so I'll be taking it back.

Best Buy said they couldn't refund me my money last time because it was over $250. What a joke. I pay cash and I get the option of receiving a company check in who knows how many weeks or paying extra for another monitor. I wasn't really thrilled with those choices but decided on the w2207h anyway just to try it. If not for the dead sub pixels I would keep it. It's awesome!

Oh, and the BB employee thought I was completely mad when I told him I was looking for a certain revision on the box! Ha! Of course when I got home and looked at the service menu I confirmed that I had indeed found a Samsung.

Ironic you took back the Samsung because you wanted a Samsung panel.

I don't see anything in their policy about $250, or even a restocking fee. You should be able to return it and get a refund??

Thanks for the minireview though, I will keep it in mind when I recommend 22" monitors.

Originally posted by: Liran xD
Hi, I'm back just to give my opinion on the screen I bought- the Samsung 2243BW
it was a bit of a gamble when I bought since I haven't seen it before and there's not even one professional review of it on the web.
Anyway it was a good gamble
the screen is awesome, especially for TN (seen VA panels as well as bunch of TN's), the colors are wonderful, except for a bit of brightness haven't touched any of the settings and the view is wonderful.
For movies I use MagicBright in "Sport" or "Movies", and it's great, HD recommended with screen like that but if you watch not from too close(1+ meters) also normal quality is fine.
The stand is also awesome, I use on a daily basis all 4 options which are- tilt(mostly good to straighten the monitor with your eyes since it's TN so viewing angles aren't perfect to say the least, and to watch movies from your bed ) swivel- another great option, height adjustment, and pivot which is great for certain pictures and for reading documents.

Overall I'm definetly satisfied with the screen- wise bought.

Thanks for the review! And I'm glad it worked out well for you.

Originally posted by: Frodo Jones
I located a Best Buy within 45 minutes of my home with the 22" LG L227WTG-PF in stock. Armed with the knowledge and expertise of xtknight I drove there a week ago today and found the monitor display to the rear of the store.

They had 5 separate 22" monitors displayed near each other with movies playing. I did not know if the L227 was even being displayed. I also had no idea what brands were the others and kept a considerable distance to get a good view of all without having to move.

I fully understand there are hundreds of factors which can effect each one displayed. I chose the one I thought had the best picture. I got closer to see which brand and you guessed it ,the L227. The only other one that was close to the picture quality was a Samsung. It had a dullness to it though that was really amplified being next to the L227.

I chose a lucky box of about 4 on the sales floor and paid with tax a total of $307. The whole way home I was concerned it may have dead pixels.

Best Buy has a 14 day return policy so I was able to wait until last night to actually connect it to a PC I custom built and finished yesterday.

I plugged it in, turned on the PC and the Asus splash screen appears bright and pixel FREE. Woohoo. /phew

After loading all the software yesterday and today I am patching Warhammer Online as I type this to game test the monitor. It is still only beta but it will still be a decent test.

Everything else looks great and no complaints. The brightness default is 100% so I turned that down to 75% but that is all I touched.

Does anybody have some good game settings for the L227they can share? This is my first LCD.

Thank you xtknight and this forum. Thumbs up for the L227. :thumbsup:

I'm thrilled it worked out for you. I am also sitting in front of the L227 (and 17" Xerox TN) here at college in absence of my higher end ones at home, but I have to say it doesn't make that much of a difference. The L227's contrast is amazing. My only complaint is the inevitably, relatively poor viewing angles of TN panels. Grays also aren't that great, but again, TNs.

For games I would recommend not using any of the f-Engine modes, just the Normal one. Because the other modes distort things a lot, unless you are watching movies or TV, where sometimes I like the Movie f-Engine mode. Use Normal and tune it to be comfortable to your eyes. You can also mess with the gamma [correction] setting. Higher will reveal brighter midtones, lower will make everything more dark.

 

[xtknight]

Originally posted by: Aggressor22
Hej XTknight,

Have received my new 3008WFP. Its an new A02 and i cant find any defect pixels at all with all color backgrounds using UndeadPixel.
The video thing with the white thingys is still here, but i knew it wasnt something bad. Like u said, something like an videobuffer.
There is also bit less bleeding and the uniformity is somewhat better, too.

EDIT: Have removed the foam, with my mouths breath and using microfiber, this cant hurt right?

Im shining with my flashlight on it, otherwise i cant notice it.
Hope u can tell its nothing... dont wanna send all back and stuff. Further, panel gives allmost ZERO bleeding.

Now the very important question:
If i look very close-up on the monitor, i can spot blue dots (very un-bright, some are more bright). This is on allmost all places, you allmost cant notice them from 30 cm distance.
I saw this on my previous one too, is this normal or is this cause of my cleaning?

Aggressor, sorry, I really don't know what you are seeing. Did you let it fully dry?

But anyway a microfiber cloth should be fine. Like I said, I use tissues most of the time.

 

[geno]

For gaming and nothing but gaming, it sounds like a TN panel isn't the worst thing in the world. It sounds like they have the least lag and the best response. Does that sound about right? Does this also translate to a lack of ghosting as well?

 

[xtknight]

Originally posted by: geno
For gaming and nothing but gaming, it sounds like a TN panel isn't the worst thing in the world. It sounds like they have the least lag and the best response. Does that sound about right? Does this also translate to a lack of ghosting as well?

No, actually TNs can be a great choice. Lack of ghosting is inversely related to the response time. Also this is the only type of panel that has had consistently low input lag, although IPS is not always far behind.

 

[ShaggyMoose]

I am having sooo much trouble purchasing a new 20" LCD in Chile. There are not many > 19" LCDs available here. Mostly they are from Samsung and Viewsonic. Also, they are usually one or two models behind (no T220 for me)... I need an LCD mostly for gaming and the Viewsonics tend to be not so reactive (at best 5ms), so I am looking at the Samsungs.

Unfortunately, all the Samsung screens available here use panels from CPT. I am left deciding between the 206BW and the 2032BW. I am leaning toward the 206BW since it was shown to have less input lag, but I am not sure if this is only for the S version! Which is the lesser of two evils if I have to choose a CPT panel? Please help me out, I have been trying to buy this damn thing for a month. I don´t want to be stuck with something that has poor overdrive or obvious and incorrectable colour inaccuracies. Thanks.

 

[zod96]

I've got my LG L227WTG-PF and I love it. I went into the Nvidia control panel and setup a custom resolution of 72hz for the refresh rate and it works fine. If I try anything above 72 it doesn't work. Is it ok to run the LCD past its recommend refresh rate? It looks better I think and the LCD does report it as running at 72hz when I hit the OSD button.

 

[KaOTiK]

Looking to upgrade to H/S-IPS monitor(s) soon. We use the 30" Apple's at work and I love them. Finding my dual 20" Samsung's becoming an eye sore next to that panel.

Anyways, what I am wondering is, I haven't really had much luck searching around a little so far on finding S-IPS monitors. So I am looking for some help/suggestions.

My only real requirements it be either 30" for single or I can do duals in the 20-24" range. I would prefer a single though, been using dual for so long. Budget, I'd like to keep it under $2500.

Purpose for the monitor, I'm a texture artist for various things. So color and detail are very important. Gaming will be done on the monitor as well be that takes a big backseat next to my work needs for it.

 

[xtknight]

Originally posted by: ShaggyMoose
I am having sooo much trouble purchasing a new 20" LCD in Chile. There are not many > 19" LCDs available here. Mostly they are from Samsung and Viewsonic. Also, they are usually one or two models behind (no T220 for me)... I need an LCD mostly for gaming and the Viewsonics tend to be not so reactive (at best 5ms), so I am looking at the Samsungs.

No T220? Actually you're probably not missing much.

Unfortunately, all the Samsung screens available here use panels from CPT. I am left deciding between the 206BW and the 2032BW. I am leaning toward the 206BW since it was shown to have less input lag, but I am not sure if this is only for the S version! Which is the lesser of two evils if I have to choose a CPT panel?

No TN panels have much input lag. So, you are safe either way. I saw the input lag for the AUO and CMO panels and they were not bad.

Please help me out, I have been trying to buy this damn thing for a month. I don´t want to be stuck with something that has poor overdrive or obvious and incorrectable colour inaccuracies. Thanks.

Then I'd probably avoid Samsung altogether and look at what ViewSonic has to offer. How are the return policies there?

 

[xtknight]

Originally posted by: zod96
I've got my LG L227WTG-PF and I love it. I went into the Nvidia control panel and setup a custom resolution of 72hz for the refresh rate and it works fine. If I try anything above 72 it doesn't work. Is it ok to run the LCD past its recommend refresh rate? It looks better I think and the LCD does report it as running at 72hz when I hit the OSD button.

Yeah it's almost certainly fine. I haven't messed with using >60 Hz on the L227 myself, but I may experiment with that. If I recall, its EDID does not advertise >=72Hz refresh rates for the native, but you are forcing and using 1680x1050?

Originally posted by: KaOTiK
Looking to upgrade to H/S-IPS monitor(s) soon. We use the 30" Apple's at work and I love them. Finding my dual 20" Samsung's becoming an eye sore next to that panel.

Anyways, what I am wondering is, I haven't really had much luck searching around a little so far on finding S-IPS monitors. So I am looking for some help/suggestions.

My only real requirements it be either 30" for single or I can do duals in the 20-24" range. I would prefer a single though, been using dual for so long. Budget, I'd like to keep it under $2500.

Purpose for the monitor, I'm a texture artist for various things. So color and detail are very important. Gaming will be done on the monitor as well be that takes a big backseat next to my work needs for it.

NEC LCD3090WQXi, or two 3007WFP-HCs for about the same price. I assume you already know how to use color management properly.

The 3007WFP-HC will be good for gaming, the LCD3090 will be alright for gaming ( see http://www.hardforum.com/showt...=gaming#post1032480045 ) and deliver higher image quality with more calibration options.

 

[ShaggyMoose]

Originally posted by: xtknight
Then I'd probably avoid Samsung altogether and look at what ViewSonic has to offer. How are the return policies there?

Thanks for the reply xtknight. The newest Viewsonic 20" I can find is the VA2026. There is basically nothing available in the way of reviews, hardly even gets a mention when googled. Its also a 5ms model and I don´t know how noticeable that will be.

Does anyone have any direct experience with the Samsung 206BW CPT version or can point me to an objective review? I found a review of the Samsung 2032BW CPT version and it wasn´t pretty...

Not much idea on the return policy. Probably a screen would have to be defective for me to return it. I will not buy from anywhere that won´t accept returns for dead pixels though, at least in the first week.

 

[zod96]

Yes I am forcing it using the custom video options within the nvidia control panel. I set it to manual and then 72hz and its fine. I played BF2 last night and sure enough with fraps running I am now getting a constant 72 fps instead of 60.

 

[mphartzheim]

Thanks for the response, xtknight. I guess I forgot to mention that I'm looking only for widescreen monitors. I can't stand using square monitors anymore. =D

The HP and the Dell are out then since they aren't widescreen. I'd really rather not "settle" for HP w2007 or Samsung 2053BW. Like I said, the Sceptres were bought because of the budget and I really wasn't happy with them. I'd rather spend more than I want to and get something I'll be happy with for years to come.

Is there a reason you wouldn't recommend the L227 for a dual monitor setup? I don't think viewing angle should be an issue at all... they're side-by-side and the angle isn't much different.

 

[KaOTiK]

Originally posted by: xtknight

Originally posted by: zod96
I've got my LG L227WTG-PF and I love it. I went into the Nvidia control panel and setup a custom resolution of 72hz for the refresh rate and it works fine. If I try anything above 72 it doesn't work. Is it ok to run the LCD past its recommend refresh rate? It looks better I think and the LCD does report it as running at 72hz when I hit the OSD button.

Yeah it's almost certainly fine. I haven't messed with using >60 Hz on the L227 myself, but I may experiment with that. If I recall, its EDID does not advertise >=72Hz refresh rates for the native, but you are forcing and using 1680x1050?

Originally posted by: KaOTiK
Looking to upgrade to H/S-IPS monitor(s) soon. We use the 30" Apple's at work and I love them. Finding my dual 20" Samsung's becoming an eye sore next to that panel.

Anyways, what I am wondering is, I haven't really had much luck searching around a little so far on finding S-IPS monitors. So I am looking for some help/suggestions.

My only real requirements it be either 30" for single or I can do duals in the 20-24" range. I would prefer a single though, been using dual for so long. Budget, I'd like to keep it under $2500.

Purpose for the monitor, I'm a texture artist for various things. So color and detail are very important. Gaming will be done on the monitor as well be that takes a big backseat next to my work needs for it.

NEC LCD3090WQXi, or two 3007WFP-HCs for about the same price. I assume you already know how to use color management properly.

The 3007WFP-HC will be good for gaming, the LCD3090 will be alright for gaming ( see http://www.hardforum.com/showt...=gaming#post1032480045 ) and deliver higher image quality with more calibration options.

Thanks for the reply, looks like the NEC will probably be the winner. Just gotta do a bit of reading up on it now, thank you.

 

[xtknight]

Originally posted by: mphartzheim
Thanks for the response, xtknight. I guess I forgot to mention that I'm looking only for widescreen monitors. I can't stand using square monitors anymore. =D

The HP and the Dell are out then since they aren't widescreen. I'd really rather not "settle" for HP w2007 or Samsung 2053BW. Like I said, the Sceptres were bought because of the budget and I really wasn't happy with them. I'd rather spend more than I want to and get something I'll be happy with for years to come.

Is there a reason you wouldn't recommend the L227 for a dual monitor setup? I don't think viewing angle should be an issue at all... they're side-by-side and the angle isn't much different.

Well it's up to you. You did say you weren't happy with your first decision so I was suggesting two VA/IPS panels as more of a failsafe solution. Two L227s would probably be fine, regardless. But two 4:3 panels basically equals a 8:3 widescreen panel, right? I can almost guarantee you would be happier with two of the 20" standard non-TN monitors but to each his own. I own the L227 and it's a great single panel but I'm not sure they'd work that well in a dual setup. It seems to me that a dual of these would be way too wide. I used a 20" dual setup the other day and now I'm green with envy.

 

[xtknight]

Originally posted by: ShaggyMoose

Originally posted by: xtknight
Then I'd probably avoid Samsung altogether and look at what ViewSonic has to offer. How are the return policies there?

Thanks for the reply xtknight. The newest Viewsonic 20" I can find is the VA2026. There is basically nothing available in the way of reviews, hardly even gets a mention when googled. Its also a 5ms model and I don´t know how noticeable that will be.

Does anyone have any direct experience with the Samsung 206BW CPT version or can point me to an objective review? I found a review of the Samsung 2032BW CPT version and it wasn´t pretty...

Not much idea on the return policy. Probably a screen would have to be defective for me to return it. I will not buy from anywhere that won´t accept returns for dead pixels though, at least in the first week.

Eh, try the ViewSonic I guess. It's less likely to have problems than the Samsung. At least you don't have to go into buying a screen you know has problems like the Samsung 20xx series.

 

[Centurin]

I'm trying to narrow down my options for a new LCD. I've read through the guide extensively, and don't know if I should go with the Planar PX2611W or the NEC LCD2690. I want an LCD for both gaming and movies with good color quality. IPS monitors seem to be where it's at. I'm not all that picky as long as the LCD is fairly fast for games, so I'm not sure if I'll see a visible difference between the two.

The whole concept of LCDs are a little new to me and this will be my first one. I'm just now learning about color calibration. I'm used to just adjusting contrast and brightness and that's it. I'm pretty much just looking for a good LCD that won't make me miss my CRT. I'm currently using a ViewSonic A91f+ 19inch CRT that I got at Best Buy several years ago. It's nothing special, but I have the money to spend now. Also, I'd rather spend the money to avoid QC issues. Any help is greatly appreciated.

 

[xtknight]

Originally posted by: Centurin
I'm trying to narrow down my options for a new LCD. I've read through the guide extensively, and don't know if I should go with the Planar PX2611W or the NEC LCD2690. I want an LCD for both gaming and movies with good color quality. IPS monitors seem to be where it's at. I'm not all that picky as long as the LCD is fairly fast for games, so I'm not sure if I'll see a visible difference between the two.

The whole concept of LCDs are a little new to me and this will be my first one. I'm just now learning about color calibration. I'm used to just adjusting contrast and brightness and that's it. I'm pretty much just looking for a good LCD that won't make me miss my CRT. I'm currently using a ViewSonic A91f+ 19inch CRT that I got at Best Buy several years ago. It's nothing special, but I have the money to spend now. Also, I'd rather spend the money to avoid QC issues. Any help is greatly appreciated.

The PX2611W is the best choice not only because it has less input lag than the LCD2690, but it's also cheaper. The extra calibration options and slight quality advantage of the LCD2690 are not worth it for 99% of the public.

You may however want to wait for the DuobleSight DS-265W. It'll be out any day now (seriously).

Never mind. It's here. But you may want to wait for a couple user reviews (they won't be far behind, as this has been a long-anticipated model): http://www.newegg.com/Product/...6824185010&Tpk=ds-265w

 

[Centurin]

Thanks a lot. I'll definitely do that. I'm not in a big rush to get a new one, so I'll wait for some reviews on it.

 

[Orodreth]

I've been waiting for the Doublesight 265W for a few months now.

I bought a Samsung 226CW for home last fall, and it's been good, but not great. The viewing angles are kinda poor and the color calibration is lacking for photo editing or artwork (its a TN panel). I've enjoyed it, but I'm looking to upgrade to an IPS panel for better color. My Dell 2007WFP at work is awesome in terms of color, and viewing angle, but I don't know what type of panel it is and they are impossible to find anymore, plus I'd prefer to stay at 24" or go up to 26".

So I've been looking at the Doublesight 263N(265W), Planar PX2611, NEC 2690WUXi and I've been holding off on an actual buying decision until I saw the specs on the Doublesight 265W. Now I've looked at it on Newegg and the Doublesight site, and compared specs with the other two and there are a couple factors that are making me think over my decision:

I use a self-standing monitor shelf, so the new monitor stand on the DS265W was never a factor. What does bug me is the Doublesight 265W has a big bezel. Fine if you are running this on its own, but I may include a square Dell LCD to the side for extra desktop real estate, and the wider bezel would make for a big dead space between the monitors. Plus, the 265W appears to have built in speakers (perhaps why the bezel is so wide now). I have a pair of nicely sounding Swans D1080 MKII and don't need any speakers on my LCD monitor.

Additionally, the Planar PX2611 and Doublesight 265W both have a 3yr warranty compared to the 4yr warranty on the NEC 2690Wuxi. And the Planar and Doublesight models both run at 135Watts while the NEC is specified to run at 111Watts. The 24 Watt difference is enough to make me think about it. I haven't done the math to see what 24 Watts fewer would actually save me in energy cost but I do spend hours in front of my computer. It's kinda like a decision to buy a good chair - you're rewarded over time for the initial cost. And while we're on the NEC praise - it comes with the antiglow polarizer that the PX and DS lack, and the NEC is supposed to have better interface controls, back-light management, and better color calibration than the other two. But is all that worth the extra $400? It might be.

I am still pondering... finding a Doublesight 263N (no speakers and small bezel) is still possible, though they wont be around long. And the NEC 30" is a friggin wet dream come true for color calibration (if the specifications are correct), though the cost in dollars and energy is too much for my budget.

So I may end up getting the NEC 2690WUXi. Don't you have the NEC 2690 xtknight? If you had to make this choice TODAY, would you go with the NEC?

 

[alcoholbob]

The NEC LCD2690wuxi is a dream monitor. I have one right now but I'm giving it to my parents. It's got an internal power supply and for such a large screen, it means you're gonna hear the transformer buzzing alot.

The Doublesight DS-265W sounds like what I want...pretty much the same features as the NEC but without the A-TW polarizer, and an external power brick.

I tried out the Apple Cinema Display...external power supply, which is excellent...but no adjustable height (or even pivot), no HDCP compliance, no internal scaler...ugh. Basically lacks any redeeming features for its price.

Problem with Doublesight is availability...the 265W is only available on newegg right now. But newegg is about as bad as a place as you can get for LCD monitors...no returns, if it has less than 8 dead pixels, then "deal with it..." I'm not gonna drop $800-900 so I can "deal with it" after Newegg pockets a couple hundred $ in profit.

Gonna wait until its available with actual "legitimate" e-tailers...until then, gonna hook up my computer to my TV.

 

[suklee]

Originally posted by: xtknight

Originally posted by: Kai920
Does anyone know what this issue is called?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rYlrW8vHfsk

It's on a 3-year old Viewsonic VP201b. Warranty is expired so it's probably not worth it to take it in and pay for repairs...

No clue, but I would definitely buy a new one and not bother with sending it in. The HP LP2065 or Dell 2007FP are good replacements.

Thanks for the reply... My wife suggested I keep using the Viewsonic and the right side of screen only

I have a Dell 2008WFP, and I hate the way color gradients look on it. Not sure what it's called either.. basically, the gradients produced look like 8-bit color or even worse. That said, I wouldn't mind another Dell as long as it does not suffer from this same problem.

I am debating between getting another 22" 1680x1050 or a 24" 1920x1200.

My Dell 20"/22" choices are:
E207WFP 20" Entry Widescreen Flat Panel Monitor
SP2008WFP 20" Widescreen Flat Panel LCD Monitor*
UltraSharp? 2009W 20" Widescreen Flat Panel Monitor
SP2208WFP 22" Widescreen Flat Panel Monitor*
E228WFP 22" Entry Widescreen Flat Panel Monitor

The SP models have a webcam integrated. Which one of the above, if any, is comparable to the 2007FP you recommended?
For 24", my choices are
E248WFP Entry 24" WideScreen Flat Panel LCD Monitor
UltraSharp? 2408WFP 24" Widescreen Flat Panel Monitor
S2409W 24-inch Widescreen Flat Panel Monitor

The Ultrasharp costs significantly more than the other two. (More than US$300 difference)

 

[Centurin]

Originally posted by: xtknight

Originally posted by: Centurin
I'm trying to narrow down my options for a new LCD. I've read through the guide extensively, and don't know if I should go with the Planar PX2611W or the NEC LCD2690. I want an LCD for both gaming and movies with good color quality. IPS monitors seem to be where it's at. I'm not all that picky as long as the LCD is fairly fast for games, so I'm not sure if I'll see a visible difference between the two.

The whole concept of LCDs are a little new to me and this will be my first one. I'm just now learning about color calibration. I'm used to just adjusting contrast and brightness and that's it. I'm pretty much just looking for a good LCD that won't make me miss my CRT. I'm currently using a ViewSonic A91f+ 19inch CRT that I got at Best Buy several years ago. It's nothing special, but I have the money to spend now. Also, I'd rather spend the money to avoid QC issues. Any help is greatly appreciated.

The PX2611W is the best choice not only because it has less input lag than the LCD2690, but it's also cheaper. The extra calibration options and slight quality advantage of the LCD2690 are not worth it for 99% of the public.

You may however want to wait for the DuobleSight DS-265W. It'll be out any day now (seriously).

Never mind. It's here. But you may want to wait for a couple user reviews (they won't be far behind, as this has been a long-anticipated model): http://www.newegg.com/Product/...6824185010&Tpk=ds-265w

The only problem I see with the DoubleSight is that they have a 7 dead pixel policy. It's almost as bad as Neweggs. I've heard great things about Planar CS and I'm wondering if that's the better deal.