[Retired] The LCD Thread

[tdoran1]

Very detailed (in German - but the specifications are "clear") PDF and other details of the new LG W2x20P e-IPS product line can be found at:

http://de.lge.com/about/mobile...7035_1_read_ROOT.jhtml

The LG W2220P looks like it could be a real "killer" if priced correctly and in line with the Dell.

Again, please call LG Electronic in NJ, write them, tell then you want to see the LG W2x20P e-IPS product line imported in to the US. Have your friends call, write, everyone in these forums!

LG Electronics USA, Inc., 1000 Sylvan Avenue Englewood Cliffs, New Jersey, U.S.A. 07632, telephone 201-816-2000.

Tim

 

[tdoran1]

Contact Us Link:

http://www.lgcommercial.com/contact-us/

Check "Channel Sales" and "LCD TV and Monitors"

Also you can you can use "Find my LG Contact" Select your state and "Channel", this will give you direct email, telephone, and mobile numbers for the LG employee in your state, and please let him know we MUST HAVE the LG W2420P / W2220P ASAP! Here is the link for "Find my LG Contact":

http://www.lgcommercial.com/find-my-lg-contact/

Then call to followup on the email!


Tim

 

[Pugnate]

I got the "Dell S2409W" yesterday and if you look at my post history, I have never been satisfied by the numerous monitors I have purchased. This however, is *fantastic*. The viewing angles are the BEST I have seen on a TN panel, period. The colors are above average, the contrast is excellent, and the color uniformity is perfect. I have been so upset by recent monitors displaying terrible uniformity and all.... this is very good though.

Games look superb etc... but movies look VERY GOOD! The blacks on this LCD are VERY VERY GOOD!

The only issue is that the monitor offers an HD resolution rather than a 16:10 ratio, which means it isn't quite as big as a 24'' LCD monitor should be... but if you can get past that, I can't recommend this enough, especially with the viewing angles being so good.

Again, I am just happy that I am able to scroll through this web page without the colors changing like it happens on every Samsung monitor these days.

Here is the CNET review:

http://reviews.cnet.com/lcd-mo...5-3174_7-33190912.html

Check out the video review.

 

[Luddite]

Originally posted by:Winterpool:

If the LG W2220P is IPS, standard gamut, 1920x1200, it could be my dream display (I want a smaller dot pitch, primarily for smooth photographs, and regret the loss of 23-inch 1920x1200 IPS monitors).

If you are interested, and can afford it, Eizo has a 22" S-PVA standard gamut monitor with 1920 X 1200 resolution:

http://www.eizo.com/products/lcd/s2242w/index.asp

 

[legend4life]

Would you be concerned about buying a BenQ G2400WD refurb in retail packaging, with manufacturer's 90 day limited (parts and labor, no replacement, no dead pixel coverage) warranty for $210?

 

[PurdueRy]

Originally posted by: Luddite

Originally posted by:Winterpool:

If the LG W2220P is IPS, standard gamut, 1920x1200, it could be my dream display (I want a smaller dot pitch, primarily for smooth photographs, and regret the loss of 23-inch 1920x1200 IPS monitors).

If you are interested, and can afford it, Eizo has a 22" S-PVA standard gamut monitor with 1920 X 1200 resolution:

http://www.eizo.com/products/lcd/s2242w/index.asp

Wide Color Gamut
The color gamut reproduces 95% of the Adobe RGB color space so it can display most colors in a photograph taken in Adobe RGB mode and cover most of the CMYK spaces used in printing.

Wide
Gamut Coverage 95% of Adobe RGB, 92% vs. NTSC

Maybe you meant this one:

http://www.eizo.com/products/lcd/s2202w/index.asp

 

[LtPage1]

Hey- I'm looking for some quick advice. I need a 20"-22" 1680x1050 LCD. My hard criteria are pretty low-end, I think: I need at least 2 inputs (1 DVI and 1 VGA would be fine) and decent response times (I'm a gamer, but I'm not a very good one who needs the bleeding edge )- I do require zero dead pixels, so a great return policy at the least is essential. A wide viewing angle would be nice, of course, but I've worked with TN panels before and I just don't think I can tell the difference if there isn't a much better monitor sitting right next to it. I don't care about USB hubs or speakers. My price range can be flexible if it's worth it, but of course I'd like to spend as little as possible. I'd prefer to stay away from glossy displays, unless it was really worth it. I vastly prefer to stay away from 16x9 displays: I play games and browse the web far more than I watch movies.

The one I'm considering now is the Dell G2210- is the LED backlighting as cool as it is on nicer Samsung and Apple displays that I've seen? Or am I being sucked in by marketing? The price is right, but would I be better off with something else? Would it be worth it to step up to something like the UltraSharp 2209WA (concerns about glossiness and input lag), or a different, nice TN panel?

 

[remety]

I am currently debating between these two monitors at the moment.

ASUS VW246H

LG L227WTG-PF

The monitor will serve as my gaming monitor somewhat of a hardcore FPS gamer. Any help on the decision would be appreciated or if there are better ones in this price range please feel free to link them =).

 

[arcarsenal]

Originally posted by: LtPage1
Hey- I'm looking for some quick advice. I need a 20"-22" 1680x1050 LCD. My hard criteria are pretty low-end, I think: I need at least 2 inputs (1 DVI and 1 VGA would be fine) and decent response times (I'm a gamer, but I'm not a very good one who needs the bleeding edge )- I do require zero dead pixels, so a great return policy at the least is essential. A wide viewing angle would be nice, of course, but I've worked with TN panels before and I just don't think I can tell the difference if there isn't a much better monitor sitting right next to it. I don't care about USB hubs or speakers. My price range can be flexible if it's worth it, but of course I'd like to spend as little as possible. I'd prefer to stay away from glossy displays, unless it was really worth it. I vastly prefer to stay away from 16x9 displays: I play games and browse the web far more than I watch movies.

The one I'm considering now is the Dell G2210- is the LED backlighting as cool as it is on nicer Samsung and Apple displays that I've seen? Or am I being sucked in by marketing? The price is right, but would I be better off with something else? Would it be worth it to step up to something like the UltraSharp 2209WA (concerns about glossiness and input lag), or a different, nice TN panel?

The Dell G2210 is purely an object of marketing hype I would say. What good is LED when you have a TN panel? I have a dell 2209wa next to my macbook LED-TN panel and I would take the dell any day for anything other than office work.

Just buy the 2209wa, I did, the hype and reviews online were enough to persuade me.

 

[arcarsenal]

I want to calibrate my Dell 2209WA, but I have no need to buy a calibration device. Can I just use someone elses sRGB settings and do I need to use an .icc profile as well? I am using both Mac OSX & Win XP. Cheers.

 

[PurdueRy]

Originally posted by: arcarsenal
I want to calibrate my Dell 2209WA, but I have no need to buy a calibration device. Can I just use someone elses sRGB settings and do I need to use an .icc profile as well? I am using both Mac OSX & Win XP. Cheers.

You can get "close" with generic profiles or someone elses settings but it will never be truly calibrated without buying a device.

Anyway, yes you need an ICC profile as well. RGB values set the individual strength of each color but the ICC profile lets color managed applications know the exact range of your display.

I believe Mac OSX supports color management natively. With windows XP you should download the color management add on. Note that even though you install this, windows itself is not color managed and this is simply a way to keep your profiles assigned and organized.

 

[LtPage1]

Originally posted by: arcarsenal

Originally posted by: LtPage1
Hey- I'm looking for some quick advice. I need a 20"-22" 1680x1050 LCD. My hard criteria are pretty low-end, I think: I need at least 2 inputs (1 DVI and 1 VGA would be fine) and decent response times (I'm a gamer, but I'm not a very good one who needs the bleeding edge )- I do require zero dead pixels, so a great return policy at the least is essential. A wide viewing angle would be nice, of course, but I've worked with TN panels before and I just don't think I can tell the difference if there isn't a much better monitor sitting right next to it. I don't care about USB hubs or speakers. My price range can be flexible if it's worth it, but of course I'd like to spend as little as possible. I'd prefer to stay away from glossy displays, unless it was really worth it. I vastly prefer to stay away from 16x9 displays: I play games and browse the web far more than I watch movies.

The one I'm considering now is the Dell G2210- is the LED backlighting as cool as it is on nicer Samsung and Apple displays that I've seen? Or am I being sucked in by marketing? The price is right, but would I be better off with something else? Would it be worth it to step up to something like the UltraSharp 2209WA (concerns about glossiness and input lag), or a different, nice TN panel?

The Dell G2210 is purely an object of marketing hype I would say. What good is LED when you have a TN panel? I have a dell 2209wa next to my macbook LED-TN panel and I would take the dell any day for anything other than office work.

Just buy the 2209wa, I did, the hype and reviews online were enough to persuade me.

Hmm. I think you may have convinced me.

 

[PurdueRy]

Originally posted by: LtPage1

Originally posted by: arcarsenal

Originally posted by: LtPage1
Hey- I'm looking for some quick advice. I need a 20"-22" 1680x1050 LCD. My hard criteria are pretty low-end, I think: I need at least 2 inputs (1 DVI and 1 VGA would be fine) and decent response times (I'm a gamer, but I'm not a very good one who needs the bleeding edge )- I do require zero dead pixels, so a great return policy at the least is essential. A wide viewing angle would be nice, of course, but I've worked with TN panels before and I just don't think I can tell the difference if there isn't a much better monitor sitting right next to it. I don't care about USB hubs or speakers. My price range can be flexible if it's worth it, but of course I'd like to spend as little as possible. I'd prefer to stay away from glossy displays, unless it was really worth it. I vastly prefer to stay away from 16x9 displays: I play games and browse the web far more than I watch movies.

The one I'm considering now is the Dell G2210- is the LED backlighting as cool as it is on nicer Samsung and Apple displays that I've seen? Or am I being sucked in by marketing? The price is right, but would I be better off with something else? Would it be worth it to step up to something like the UltraSharp 2209WA (concerns about glossiness and input lag), or a different, nice TN panel?

The Dell G2210 is purely an object of marketing hype I would say. What good is LED when you have a TN panel? I have a dell 2209wa next to my macbook LED-TN panel and I would take the dell any day for anything other than office work.

Just buy the 2209wa, I did, the hype and reviews online were enough to persuade me.

Hmm. I think you may have convinced me.

I could be wrong but I don't think Dell is selling the 2209WA anymore(at least not currently) as their ship dates were out into fall.

 

[remety]

Originally posted by: remety
I am currently debating between these two monitors at the moment.

ASUS VW246H

LG L227WTG-PF

The monitor will serve as my gaming monitor somewhat of a hardcore FPS gamer. Any help on the decision would be appreciated or if there are better ones in this price range please feel free to link them =).

Bump :beer:

 

[PurdueRy]

Originally posted by: remety

Originally posted by: remety
I am currently debating between these two monitors at the moment.

ASUS VW246H

LG L227WTG-PF

The monitor will serve as my gaming monitor somewhat of a hardcore FPS gamer. Any help on the decision would be appreciated or if there are better ones in this price range please feel free to link them =).

Bump :beer:

I had the LG, it was a pretty decent monitor. I'd recommend turning off dynamic contrast. It's in the "F-engine" setting...change it to "User".

The glossy screen is nice provided its fingerprint free and there are no light sources in front of the monitor.

 

[xtknight]

Originally posted by: Kane233

Originally posted by: xtknight

Originally posted by: Kane233
Has anybody used the Acer G24? I'm looking for a solid 24" with all around acceptable multimedia functions but I'll be using it most for gaming, browsing, and word documents. I know that some have a backlight issue but it looks like Acer is willing to take them back and replace them if that arises.

Any other suggestions for a 24" that meets these demands? I chose the G24 due to the price/available reviews. I was interested in the BenQ G2400WD but I haven't seen much feedback on that model. I wanted to try out an IPA panel but all of them look like they're out of my price range...I need under $400 MSRP.

Much appreciated.

Well the G24 seems to be an acceptable choice for you. I recommend it particularly for gaming, but it's also good for multimedia. You might also look at the HP w2408h.

Well, I've got a Samsung 206BW and I'm looking for substantial improvement in the multimedia area with a fast enough response time and little input lag. In terms of the G24 v. the BenQ2400 I decided to go with the Acer because of the wider color gamut. Why would you recommend the 2408?

It's another choice that has a good overall package, but other than that the G24 is probably faster.

Originally posted by: legend4life
Would you be concerned about buying a BenQ G2400WD refurb in retail packaging, with manufacturer's 90 day limited (parts and labor, no replacement, no dead pixel coverage) warranty for $210?

That's a great value I'd jump on immediately...

Originally posted by: LtPage1
Hey- I'm looking for some quick advice. I need a 20"-22" 1680x1050 LCD. My hard criteria are pretty low-end, I think: I need at least 2 inputs (1 DVI and 1 VGA would be fine) and decent response times (I'm a gamer, but I'm not a very good one who needs the bleeding edge )- I do require zero dead pixels, so a great return policy at the least is essential. A wide viewing angle would be nice, of course, but I've worked with TN panels before and I just don't think I can tell the difference if there isn't a much better monitor sitting right next to it. I don't care about USB hubs or speakers. My price range can be flexible if it's worth it, but of course I'd like to spend as little as possible. I'd prefer to stay away from glossy displays, unless it was really worth it. I vastly prefer to stay away from 16x9 displays: I play games and browse the web far more than I watch movies.

The one I'm considering now is the Dell G2210- is the LED backlighting as cool as it is on nicer Samsung and Apple displays that I've seen? Or am I being sucked in by marketing? The price is right, but would I be better off with something else? Would it be worth it to step up to something like the UltraSharp 2209WA (concerns about glossiness and input lag), or a different, nice TN panel?

Well unfortunately the 2209WA seems discontinued at the moment. (damn it.)

I would consider something more standard like the LG L227WT or Samsung T220.

Originally posted by: remety
I am currently debating between these two monitors at the moment.

ASUS VW246H

LG L227WTG-PF

The monitor will serve as my gaming monitor somewhat of a hardcore FPS gamer. Any help on the decision would be appreciated or if there are better ones in this price range please feel free to link them =).

The ASUS is a great choice and I'd recommend it if you'd like to step up in size. As a personal owner of the glossy L227 I can also attest to its gaming greatness (very fast, no lag).

 

[remety]

I don't really need to step up in size I have a Samsung 32" 1080p LCD lol. Just need something fast for gaming.

 

[remety]

I think I may order the LG unless anyone has any other thoughts or opinions.

 

[imported_Kane233]

Meh, now I'm considering just plunging down some bucks for a hp lp2475w. It's hard to spend $400 on a gaming monitor when an IPS is only a little bit more.

 

[Mem]

Originally posted by: remety
I think I may order the LG unless anyone has any other thoughts or opinions.

I own the Asus VW246H and find it great for gaming,between the two it really depends on what size you want ie LG is 22" 16:10 panel and Asus 24" 16:9 panel.

Plenty of inputs on the Asus ie HDMI,DVI,VGA etc...even comes with VGA,DVI cable,end of the day both are good choices.

 

[PurdueRy]

Originally posted by: Kane233
Meh, now I'm considering just plunging down some bucks for a hp lp2475w. It's hard to spend $400 on a gaming monitor when an IPS is only a little bit more.

IPS monitors are not typically thought of as gaming monitors.

 

[imported_Kane233]

Yeah, I know. But I'm going more for multimedia functions, viewing angles, accurate color reproduction, etc. Honestly, the responsiveness of the 2475 looks in line with or better than other monitors in the same range. I'm not a "hardcore' gamer in a clan...I play ArmA II, probably Starcraft II, and a couple other fps in the distant future (HL2 Ep. 3 Valve?). The viewing angles on my current monitor are starting to annoy the hell out of me. I'll be laying on my bed, shift, and suddenly I'm not level with the monitor which means I then have to sit up and put my back against the wall. And all the TNs I've seen don't do blacks good...at all. The transition and depth just isn't there. Besides, if TFT can be trusted...

TFT Central

I don't have much to worry about relative to other monitors. Only the 3007WFP, 2407 WFP, Samsung SM245B, and Hazros are any better.

 

[PurdueRy]

Originally posted by: Kane233
Yeah, I know. But I'm going more for multimedia functions, viewing angles, accurate color reproduction, etc. Honestly, the responsiveness of the 2475 looks in line with or better than other monitors in the same range. I'm not a "hardcore' gamer in a clan...I play ArmA II, probably Starcraft II, and a couple other fps in the distant future (HL2 Ep. 3 Valve?). The viewing angles on my current monitor are starting to annoy the hell out of me. I'll be laying on my bed, shift, and suddenly I'm not level with the monitor which means I then have to sit up and put my back against the wall. And all the TNs I've seen don't do blacks good...at all. The transition and depth just isn't there. Besides, if TFT can be trusted...

TFT Central

I don't have much to worry about relative to other monitors. Only the 3007WFP, 2407 WFP, Samsung SM245B, and Hazros are any better.

Most of those(perhaps all, not sure about the hazros) are PVA or IPS panels. TN's are much faster.

Perhaps you should go with a PVA for its higher contrast ratio and good off axis performance?

 

[Hadsus]

If you're laying on your bed I don't see how you could be happy with a TN. You really need to be pretty much square with the monitor as you would in the standard workstation setup. But, if you game regularly, you definitely will see the difference though. I play TF2 all the time and now it is not unusual for me to be near or over +100 kills over deaths after a couple of hours (playing mostly soldier but also pyro and demoman). I never could come close to that with my s-pva.

 

[wpeng]

Seriously, is there no one concerned about the hp lp2475w becoming a panel lottery? Or has that rumor already been debunked? I was thinking about getting one; now, not so much.