Originally posted by: osage
Originally posted by: konakona
I am quite skeptical, but if this person is right then...
http://forums.anandtech.com/me...=2085928&enterthread=y
he claims the $299 soyo (24'') is S-PVA. Again, I find it very hard to believe but oh well
ripped this from another site:
Date Posted: Aug/23/2007 9:00 AM
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Panel identified:
Originally posted by: Phrozen @ SD
Just opened and put back together in about 5 mins
Turns out its a AU Optronics P-MVA (M240UW01 V0) Panel.
BENQ owns AU Optronics, which is currently the second largest panel manufacturer behind Samsung (edging LG, Philips).
Acer AL2423W also has this same panel...
Also at Anandtech.com
Originally posted by: Sikish
Got one. It's S-PVA panel, same thing used in Dell 2407 and my Acer AL2423W. Great deal guys
I was skeptical but it appeared to be confirmed that the panel is not a TN 6 bit but a true 8 bit panel S-PVA.
I got one of these on thursday, it is HUGE, colors are excellent, and it is clear and bright. 24" for less that $300. OTD, no rebates seems excellent to me.
granted I don't know $hit about LCDs as this is my first one, but it sure looks good to me.
Originally posted by: KS12
hi, new here.
i just got a dell 2007wfp and i was hopinh to get a s-ips monitor (i heard it's the best one) but it looks like i lost in dell's little lottery thing. is there really a big difference between the dell s-ips and s-pva? (note that i don't have any experience with a s-ips or a s-pva so i don't know if i can tell a difference) i mainly use the monitor for gaming and school work for college, no photo editing but i watch movies on it occasionally. overall though, i'm pretty happy with the monitor compared to my old 17" benq monitor. theres no dead pixel, i don't think theres any back light bleeding issues and etc. so is really worth it to send it back to dell and hope that they send a s-ips monitor instead?
Originally posted by: cwy
I use Samsung 245bw (native 1920x1200) LCD widescreen monitor, and it doesn't supports 1600x1200. So there are some games I can't play in that res, especially older ones that have no widescreen support. Is there any workaround that will let me play them at 1600x1200?
My video card is Geforce 8800gtx. The nvidia control panel lets me create custom resolutions. I tried to create 1600x1200 but can't do it. Can someone help me as to what to enter for timing parameters and all that crap?
Note that the nvidia driver is able scale the image to a fixed-aspect ratio, so the 4:3 image wouldn't be distorted. All I need is to create a 1600x1200 res in the control panel so my games would hopefully recognize it.
I need this monitor for its HDCP support in viewing HD DVD and Blu-ray discs. This was the cheapest monitor I could find that has that. I knew I would have to forgo 1600x1200. Is there a solution at all?
Originally posted by: konakona
Just picked up the 24'' soyo.
Need to spend some time adjusting it though...
Trying to figure out how to use that color profile Viper GTS posted in that soyo thread.
Ok, then what are my options for widescreen IPS panels?Originally posted by: Skott
All 22" LCDs are TN panels.
Originally posted by: databird
What do you mean "scaling IPS" problem? Do you mean making larger panel IPS panels?
I would be curious to know more about this. You mean it is more problematic, for example to make a 52-inch S-IPS LCD TV than a 52-inch S-PVA LCD TV?Originally posted by: konakona
(...) due to the inherent problem of scaling IPS tech has.
Originally posted by: BernardP
I would be curious to know more about this. You mean it is more problematic, for example to make a 52-inch S-IPS LCD TV than a 52-inch S-PVA LCD TV?Originally posted by: konakona
(...) due to the inherent problem of scaling IPS tech has.
I can understand more expensive, but you are saying there are technical problems as well? Is it because S-IPS panels are more complex that they are more prone to defects, for example?
Are IPS monitors selling less because they are more expensive, or are they more expensive because they are selling less?Originally posted by: xtknight
...but IPS panels are obviously having trouble, explaining the price premiums.
Originally posted by: xtknight
If you're complaining that 21" is strainful on your eyes then you won't be complaining about the comfort you derive from using a nice 27" S-PVA display. There's no reason to get a 30" instead, it has a considerably smaller dot pitch than the 21" you already have and a resolution you can hardly game at (and not to mention higher price). The 27" seems perfect to me.
[/quote]Originally posted by: BernardP
Are IPS monitors selling less because they are more expensive, or are they more expensive because they are selling less?Originally posted by: xtknight
...but IPS panels are obviously having trouble, explaining the price premiums.
As I mentionned in another thread sometime ago, I don't understand how LG, Philips, Toshiba (some models) and Panasonic can be very much price-competitive with their S-IPS LCD sets in the TV market, but when it comes to computer monitors, suddently, S-IPS panels command a huge price premium.
Originally posted by: Scalarscience
Originally posted by: xtknight
If you're complaining that 21" is strainful on your eyes then you won't be complaining about the comfort you derive from using a nice 27" S-PVA display. There's no reason to get a 30" instead, it has a considerably smaller dot pitch than the 21" you already have and a resolution you can hardly game at (and not to mention higher price). The 27" seems perfect to me.
Hi, thanks for the reply.
Font size isn't the only issue. What I'm also looking for is a high enough resolution to fit a layout on the screen at a scaling that is a multiple of 25%. This tends to not only generate an ideal interpolation of the artwork when zooming in or out (in large format print work for instance) but also means that I tend to use screensets to separate tasks and deal with zooming via keybind/toolbar. Since I've had this monitor I find myself relying on screenset support in various applications to faclitate the more fractional zoom values. For example usually like 113% or 167% etc.
Anyway recommending the 27" is an interesting idea. There's actually not enough room here to do that right now because of the other gear on my desk (audio mixer, laptop and a midi control surface as well as keyboard and 3 mice) but my current monitors are further towards the rear of the desk so I can see myself building a support stand behind the desk to support the monitor. The larger pixel size of the 27" (0.303 vs 0.27) should make that perfectly workable I would think, especially since it would be at most 12 inches further away.
The question is whether it's worth the extra $300...food for thought. If I were to opt to save the $300 what would your choice be in the 24" range? (I was guessing BenQ FP241W models.)
Originally posted by: DaNVeR
Let me first say that this is probably the most in-depth LCD thread I have found anywhere on the web. Huge thanks to xtknight and everyone else who has contributed to the mass of information here.
So after much trolling and hours of going through the information here I decided to post for a little input from the experts. Here's the jist. With an LCD budget of $400 or less, a primary use of FPS gaming(CoD2, CS:S, BF2142, and soon to be released Crysis and COD4) in mind and a desire to have a 1680x1050 widescreen, I am likely looking at a LCD in the 20" to 22" spectrum. I will be driving the screen with an 8800GTS640 video card and plan to utilize DVI. I have been leaning toward the LG 22". So my questions are:
1. Is there any difference between the L226WTQ and the L226WTY models? As I would understand the very first entry in this thread they are the same. Is there any difference when applying the color profiles/monitor settings?
2. For gaming, would you possibly recommend the the w2207 with it's glossy finish over the LG's Anti-Glare coating?
2. With the budget I have set and FPS gaming in mind, would I be better off going with a slightly smaller 20.1" S-IPS instead of a 22" TN (I have a line on a 20WMGX2 for just under $400)?
Thanks,
Dan
The Samsung 226CW, with its wide-color-gamut screen, is near the current state-of-the-art for 22-inch monitors. LG is also about to start selling a 22-inch monitor with wide-gamut, the L227WT Series.Originally posted by: blinkstar
But then I stumbled onto this thread and saw your review for the LG Flatron 22, which you seem to rate pretty highly ... Do you think it is better for gaming than my Samsung 226CW? Please let me know your thoughts on this!
Has anyone else reading this thread seen the LG and Samsung in action? Which did you like better and why?
Originally posted by: databird
Are the following two models the same?:
LG L226WTQ-SF
LG L226WTQ
The SF seems to have a silver bezel. Is that the only difference? I'd certainly rather a black bezel...
Is there a model with all black stand and bezel? What's the model number for it?
Originally posted by: blinkstar
Thanks for responding, BernardP!
From the test you linked to, it looks like the LG might be superior. Less ghosting in the image shown. Also, it lists the LG as having a 3000:1 contrast ratio as opposed to the Samsung's 1000:1.
Thanks again for weighing in!
Looks like the LG has much more accurate colors too (after calibration) than the Samsung--or am I reading this graph wrong?
http://www.digitalversus.com/d...27&p1=2107&ma2=36&ph=1