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sephra

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alas im still no closer to finding that right monitor.. but if its any help to others. I find that if your not going to a 24+ size screen you should more than likely stick to that CRT. I dunno about anyone else but 22" widescreens just look too weird, needs more height or something....

that being said on a scale of 1-10.. 1 being the 275T and 10 being the nec 2490wuxi.....im a 7.5 ... its a trade off between ~2ms GtG favoring the 275t. and then low input lag time favoring the nec.

i would like to go for the 26" for many reasons, but the issues with the 26 panels is just far to great..


ps, more people should stock all monitor types so we can look at them localy wheever we are
 

etrin

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I am not sure what you are referring to with input lag. All LCD monitors have it. Right now one of the lowest is the acer 22 and 24 in models at 20ms and I am sure they have some high ones in different models of each as well. Most Nec lcd's range from 35-40ms.

The BtB and GtG have nothing to do with input lag.

I wish I could see 2 with the same material displayed in store LOL
one with a fish tank screen saver and one with a demo of Finding Nemo is no way to compare.
That is what I was confronted with last year when I was swapping out a bad Samsung 22 wide I tried to look at it sitting next to an Acer and another one was across the isle....NO FEED
you can't see back lite problems with the harsh lights in store and no 2 screens will ever have the same feed so I guess its to their advantage.
 

sephra

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Originally posted by: etrin
I am not sure what you are referring to with input lag. All LCD monitors have it. Right now one of the lowest is the acer 22 and 24 in models at 20ms and I am sure they have some high ones in different models of each as well. Most Nec lcd's range from 35-40ms.
Ya i know, i have 4 lcd's and a crt on my desk right now , was refering to the fact the wuxi has about ~33ms input lag vs the 275t's 50+ms

The BtB and GtG have nothing to do with input lag.
didnt say they did, only was talking about the 275t having a better rated response time vs the nec. 6ms vs 8ms Gtg, and 12ms vs 16ms RtF

I wish I could see 2 with the same material displayed in store LOL
one with a fish tank screen saver and one with a demo of Finding Nemo is no way to compare. That is what I was confronted with last year when I was swapping out a bad Samsung 22 wide I tried to look at it sitting next to an Acer and another one was across the isle....NO FEED
you can't see back lite problems with the harsh lights in store and no 2 screens will ever have the same feed so I guess its to their advantage.

thats why i bring my laptop with me, most stores let you test these things nowdays. if you know the right people to talk to, for example at Bestbuy, goto service department and talk to their manager, they have let me open speaker box's before to check things out.
The problem is stores sell what can move, and when your looking for lcd's over 800, most stores do not carry those ,
 

Montius

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Originally posted by: xtknight
Originally posted by: Montius
It's been a while.

I'm one of the few 2407WFP-HC owners that experience the I'm sure aforementioned ghosting issue, and I believe I've got until 11/08 to make a decision as to what to do with it. While I could live with it, it is noticeable and gets irritating in games.

So my question really is, how's the 24-27 inch arena shaping up? I see that the Planar 26" hasn't dropped in price, what would be recommended to replace the 2407-HC? Multimedia use fits me most, lots of movies and gaming. I know that there's other highly(ish) regarded models like the BenQ 24" but that's running close in price to the Planar, though that's gotten mixed thoughts on HardOCP. I'm kind of flexible in price, though I'd like to think that shelling out over $800 would yield me a fantastic monitor, just not sure if that's the case.

The BenQ FP241W (~$650) and Samsung 275T (~$980) are the primary competitors in this area. (Or, NEC LCD2490WUXi for $1000+.)

There isn't really a fast 24" wide gamut monitor yet. BeHardware continually reports no problems with the 2407WFP-HC (something doesn't add up).

The Samsung 245T (wide gamut) isn't bad if you disable its MPA function. I believe it is still fast, anyway. Unfortunately its input lag is min. 42 ms, a sight warranting a mourning. But who knows anymore how much input lag affects people... I am sure the most sensitive would notice it a lot in the 245T.

The Planar's uniformity quality seems not all that great. Apparently it has some response time issues too but I do know I'm not committing and buying it until X-Bit reviews it. The 275T is my next choice, most likely, or one of the NEC 90 series models.

Is my memory serving me correctly when recalling that the FP241W had response time issues that the (now discontinued) Z variant rectified? I'm skeptical about dropping $1K on a monitor so this may prove to be a keeper. If I can locate one, is the Z variant worth the $150 premium?
 

tremble

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Been reading over the post for the last couple of days trying to decide on which LCD I should buy so I have a few questions.

I'm looking into getting a monitor in the 24" range. At the moment I have an old 20" Dell Trinitron that just takes up way too much room and ways too much for the dorm. For the most part I'd be using it for video games of all sorts. FPS, RPGs, MMOs, just about anything. I'd also like to be able to watch movies or anime at a fairly nice standard too without ghosting. Is that possible on a 24 inch?

Also could I hook up an xbox 360 at 720 or 1080p and play on the monitor if I had an hdmi cable?

And last one I swear! Whats the difference between the BenQ FP241W and the FP241VW performance wise?
 

egniwerdna

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Hey I was looking to buy a 22" (or just at least 1680x1020 or 1600x1200) monitor for a mixture of gaming, image editing, and 3d modeling software. It would mostly be gaming, but I'd like to have the other things as effective as possible too. I'm trying to spend under $300 if possible. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks a lot.
 

akavlie

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I just got the NEC 20WMGX2, primarily on xtnight's recommendation, to pair with a new Mac Mini. It's a HUGE upgrade from the dim 15" PowerBook display I was working on up to this point; it's remarkably clear and crisp, and bright even at 25%.
I have a couple of questions about how you guys are using this display (esp. xtnight):

1) What do you set sharpness at? How about other settings (aside from brightness, contrast & color temp which are mentioned with the calibration info on xtnight's site)

2) Can you describe your lighting setup, even the particulars of the light(s) you use? I've got in-ceiling CFLs in this room and glare is pretty noticeable on anything dark.
 

DangerDave

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Hey, xtknight, what do you think of the Gateway FHD2400? I'm looking for something that can double as a tv (ps3) and a pc monitor, so I need both the DVI and hdmi. I saw it at CC it looked pretty good.
 

xtknight

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Originally posted by: sephra
Originally posted by: etrin
I am not sure what you are referring to with input lag. All LCD monitors have it. Right now one of the lowest is the acer 22 and 24 in models at 20ms and I am sure they have some high ones in different models of each as well. Most Nec lcd's range from 35-40ms.
Ya i know, i have 4 lcd's and a crt on my desk right now , was refering to the fact the wuxi has about ~33ms input lag vs the 275t's 50+ms

Where are you seeing 50+ ms for the 275T? I haven't seen any measurements yet.

Originally posted by: Montius
Originally posted by: xtknight
Originally posted by: Montius
It's been a while.

I'm one of the few 2407WFP-HC owners that experience the I'm sure aforementioned ghosting issue, and I believe I've got until 11/08 to make a decision as to what to do with it. While I could live with it, it is noticeable and gets irritating in games.

So my question really is, how's the 24-27 inch arena shaping up? I see that the Planar 26" hasn't dropped in price, what would be recommended to replace the 2407-HC? Multimedia use fits me most, lots of movies and gaming. I know that there's other highly(ish) regarded models like the BenQ 24" but that's running close in price to the Planar, though that's gotten mixed thoughts on HardOCP. I'm kind of flexible in price, though I'd like to think that shelling out over $800 would yield me a fantastic monitor, just not sure if that's the case.

The BenQ FP241W (~$650) and Samsung 275T (~$980) are the primary competitors in this area. (Or, NEC LCD2490WUXi for $1000+.)

There isn't really a fast 24" wide gamut monitor yet. BeHardware continually reports no problems with the 2407WFP-HC (something doesn't add up).

The Samsung 245T (wide gamut) isn't bad if you disable its MPA function. I believe it is still fast, anyway. Unfortunately its input lag is min. 42 ms, a sight warranting a mourning. But who knows anymore how much input lag affects people... I am sure the most sensitive would notice it a lot in the 245T.

The Planar's uniformity quality seems not all that great. Apparently it has some response time issues too but I do know I'm not committing and buying it until X-Bit reviews it. The 275T is my next choice, most likely, or one of the NEC 90 series models.

Is my memory serving me correctly when recalling that the FP241W had response time issues that the (now discontinued) Z variant rectified? I'm skeptical about dropping $1K on a monitor so this may prove to be a keeper. If I can locate one, is the Z variant worth the $150 premium?

I only see a few isolated instances of ghosting w/ the FP241W but the general consensus is that it's a fast AUO P-MVA.

The Z variant probably isn't worth $150 extra unless the FP241W where you buy it does not have the 1:1 update, or whether you actually think AMA-Z (backlight scanning) will reduce ghosting without being annoying (flicker). Most people do not like the backlight tech very much.
 

xtknight

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Originally posted by: ZtL
Hi everyone. First let me say thanks for the thread I have been checking it periodically for a while now and it's very helpful.

On to my question: I just got a Samsung 226BW. It is an "A" model, but I haven't had any of the kinds of issues I have read about it. In most regards it seems fine. The problem I am having is that when I am doing something like playing a game or watching a movie I get these horizontal lines across the screen. When I say lines I don't actually mean a distinct line but more of a break in the picture, like if you lightly adjusted the tracking on a VCR while watching a movie not so much as to cause any static bands or anything but just the strange quick shift in the image. This is painful and dizzying, and I'm not sure if it is a defect in the monitor or not. (is it something to do with the refresh rate? should it only be 60h at 1680 x 1050?) I have never really used an LCD steadily until now, but I have tried plugging it in as analog, updating drivers, and using it at lower res with higher refresh rate, none of these things have had a noticeable effect. Thanks for any help anyone can offer and thanks again for the thread I have recommended it to a number of people in the last year or so.

Thanks for the compliments.

I would try using the "auto adjust" function if you're using analog (I assume you had been using DVI all along, though). Most likely the monitor is defective but there's always a chance it could be anything else. If it didn't happen with your previous monitor, common sense would dictate that the 226BW is the culprit so I would try RMAing that first.

Originally posted by: tremble
Been reading over the post for the last couple of days trying to decide on which LCD I should buy so I have a few questions.

I'm looking into getting a monitor in the 24" range. At the moment I have an old 20" Dell Trinitron that just takes up way too much room and ways too much for the dorm. For the most part I'd be using it for video games of all sorts. FPS, RPGs, MMOs, just about anything. I'd also like to be able to watch movies or anime at a fairly nice standard too without ghosting. Is that possible on a 24 inch?

24" monitors are quite suited to movies and many people can enjoy gaming on them. They do have more input lag but it doesn't affect most people. For others it may be psychological which of course doesn't help them, but they will have to stick to LCDs with lower input lag or get used to it. It still may only be an issue w/ gaming because it's an interactive activity that has expected responses, and when those responses are delayed, and your mind is finely-tuned to them, it may be noticeable. Not the case with movies.

Ghosting on decent 24" screens is not more than ghosting on most other good displays.

Also could I hook up an xbox 360 at 720 or 1080p and play on the monitor if I had an hdmi cable?

That depends on the monitor. The FP241W and 2407WFP-HC have the best connectivity of 24" monitors but ultimately you may have to investigate further because I don't know the details. HardForum and MonitorSource are great places for this. Some monitors can't do 1080p, others can't scale 1080i correctly, or display any other combo of issues.

And last one I swear! Whats the difference between the BenQ FP241W and the FP241VW performance wise?

The VW has options for the backlight scanning tech, which is ultimately useless for most people at least in its current state. It is not worth it as it causes too much flicker the way it is implemented in the BenQs. I have not heard of a single person who actually did like the tech.

You can compare the FP241W vs. the FP241VW here: http://www.digitalversus.com/d...41&p1=1562&ma2=48&ph=1

The VW seems to have a bit more input lag.
 

xtknight

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Originally posted by: egniwerdna
Hey I was looking to buy a 22" (or just at least 1680x1020 or 1600x1200) monitor for a mixture of gaming, image editing, and 3d modeling software. It would mostly be gaming, but I'd like to have the other things as effective as possible too. I'm trying to spend under $300 if possible. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks a lot.

If I were you I would be seriously considering the Samsung 226BW (matte, 6-bit) or HP w2207 (glossy, 6-bit). They are the most viable options at that price point. The HP LP2065 (matte, 8-bit) is another option if you want a more square aspect (available for $350 AR at Newegg).

226BW is $270 AR (Newegg) and you can get the HP w2207 for $330 at CC.

The LP2065 of course would have the widest viewing angles so it would be more suitable for photo editing, but the other two (6-bit) would be a little better for gaming though less suitable for editing photos.
 

xtknight

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Originally posted by: akavlie
I just got the NEC 20WMGX2, primarily on xtnight's recommendation, to pair with a new Mac Mini. It's a HUGE upgrade from the dim 15" PowerBook display I was working on up to this point; it's remarkably clear and crisp, and bright even at 25%.
I have a couple of questions about how you guys are using this display (esp. xtnight):

1) What do you set sharpness at? How about other settings (aside from brightness, contrast & color temp which are mentioned with the calibration info on xtnight's site)

Now I use 8.3 sharpness. It took getting used to from 16.6 (it really did look blurry for an hour or so), but I believe 8.3 is the cut-off where a digital sharpener starts being used. So 8.3 provides the softest image while maintaining a good amount of sharpness. By now it looks great to me.

2) Can you describe your lighting setup, even the particulars of the light(s) you use? I've got in-ceiling CFLs in this room and glare is pretty noticeable on anything dark.

I have an incandescent ceiling lamp which directs light right into the ground (it is not at any odd angle or any such). I also have another incandescent lamp near my desk that points directly up. Most of my lighting is diffused, there is no lighting pointing directly at the monitor that would be causing a reflection. I do have a window behind me covered by a shade (which does block most light although much still comes through). The reflections from it are rather noticeable in the day, but my anti-glare monitor shows more effects than my glossy one does.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/9138204@N03/1277080271/

There are minor spot reflections on the glossy panel while there is a whole halo on the anti-glare LCD. When the glossy monitor is dark reflections do tend to show up a lot more, although the black terminal window there isn't showing it.
 

xtknight

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Originally posted by: DangerDave
Hey, xtknight, what do you think of the Gateway FHD2400? I'm looking for something that can double as a tv (ps3) and a pc monitor, so I need both the DVI and hdmi. I saw it at CC it looked pretty good.

The FHD2400 has a TN, and it hasn't been reviewed professionally yet so I am not recommending it to anyone at the moment. We will have to see how it pans out over the next few weeks and there is a thread at HardForum here:

http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1231866

I hear it's glossy/wide gamut.

Anyway the FP241W is probably the most suitable choice for you.
 

akavlie

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Originally posted by: xtknight
Originally posted by: akavlie
2) Can you describe your lighting setup, even the particulars of the light(s) you use? I've got in-ceiling CFLs in this room and glare is pretty noticeable on anything dark.

I have an incandescent ceiling lamp which directs light right into the ground (it is not at any odd angle or any such). I also have another incandescent lamp near my desk that points directly up. Most of my lighting is diffused, there is no lighting pointing directly at the monitor that would be causing a reflection. I do have a window behind me covered by a shade (which does block most light although much still comes through). The reflections from it are rather noticeable in the day, but my anti-glare monitor shows more effects than my glossy one does.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/9138204@N03/1277080271/

There are minor spot reflections on the glossy panel while there is a whole halo on the anti-glare LCD. When the glossy monitor is dark reflections do tend to show up a lot more, although the black terminal window there isn't showing it.

Yeah, bright desktops as shown in the picture don't show reflections for me either... but when it's all black, I can see myself pretty easily. I'm not sure how much I should be concerned about it as I'm not usually looking at a black screen, but I thought your setup was all backlit or something so as to eliminate reflections.
 

ZtL

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Originally posted by: xtknight
I would try using the "auto adjust" function if you're using analog (I assume you had been using DVI all along, though). Most likely the monitor is defective but there's always a chance it could be anything else. If it didn't happen with your previous monitor, common sense would dictate that the 226BW is the culprit so I would try RMAing that first.

Thanks for the response. I reread my post and I think I should have made clear that when this happens it isn't constant, it's more during quick motion or when I scale back and forth over things. That still doesn't seem like anything a monitor should do though, so I guess I will consider RMA unless anyone else has another suggestion. Thanks again.
 

sephra

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2490wuxi's down to 950ish range for this weeks sale. just going to roll with that vs the 275t ips> pva. Had the price remained the same i would have most likely gone with the 275T.
 

xtknight

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Originally posted by: akavlie
Originally posted by: xtknight
Originally posted by: akavlie
2) Can you describe your lighting setup, even the particulars of the light(s) you use? I've got in-ceiling CFLs in this room and glare is pretty noticeable on anything dark.

I have an incandescent ceiling lamp which directs light right into the ground (it is not at any odd angle or any such). I also have another incandescent lamp near my desk that points directly up. Most of my lighting is diffused, there is no lighting pointing directly at the monitor that would be causing a reflection. I do have a window behind me covered by a shade (which does block most light although much still comes through). The reflections from it are rather noticeable in the day, but my anti-glare monitor shows more effects than my glossy one does.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/9138204@N03/1277080271/

There are minor spot reflections on the glossy panel while there is a whole halo on the anti-glare LCD. When the glossy monitor is dark reflections do tend to show up a lot more, although the black terminal window there isn't showing it.

Yeah, bright desktops as shown in the picture don't show reflections for me either... but when it's all black, I can see myself pretty easily. I'm not sure how much I should be concerned about it as I'm not usually looking at a black screen, but I thought your setup was all backlit or something so as to eliminate reflections.

I rarely am able to see myself in this LCD. I'm not sure why that is but I guess my lighting in this room is quite consistent. In fact, my lighting is generally dim w/ only mild daylight (or twilight). My monitor usually feels like the brightest thing in the room. I use it at 180 nits right now although different seasons sometimes call for different nits. I have used it as low as 120 on a regular basis.

My settings on the NEC are like this (depends on unit):
Brightness: 22.6/Contrast: 53.0 = 180 nits

120 nits is about 10 brightness and maybe 30 contrast? Can't remember exactly.

There are times where my eyes are uncomfortable at 180 nits but when that happens I just turn down the brightness a little. One of my ceiling lamps just blew so it does seem a little bright right now.

The farther back you sit from your monitor, the lower the "apparent brightness" as well (much like stars in the sky). I sit at least a foot away from the LCD in normal usage w/ glasses.
 

xtknight

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Originally posted by: sephra
2490wuxi's down to 950ish range for this weeks sale. just going to roll with that vs the 275t ips> pva. Had the price remained the same i would have most likely gone with the 275T.

Wow, I might have to add this to "the list" for Multimedia. I'm not sure exactly where to place it but I'm guessing it'd be at the top somewhere. For some users it's not quite as feasible (lack of multimedia inputs) but it is certainly a great monitor.

Where is it $950 though?
 

xtknight

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Originally posted by: ZtL
Originally posted by: xtknight
I would try using the "auto adjust" function if you're using analog (I assume you had been using DVI all along, though). Most likely the monitor is defective but there's always a chance it could be anything else. If it didn't happen with your previous monitor, common sense would dictate that the 226BW is the culprit so I would try RMAing that first.

Thanks for the response. I reread my post and I think I should have made clear that when this happens it isn't constant, it's more during quick motion or when I scale back and forth over things. That still doesn't seem like anything a monitor should do though, so I guess I will consider RMA unless anyone else has another suggestion. Thanks again.

No idea what the problem is, I've never heard of it before but try RMA.

There's a possibility it could be some freak refresh rate issue with the graphics card and monitor being out of sync.
 

sephra

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provantage as of yesterday xknight, someone on the hardforms mentioned it


Edit: scratch that, deal must have ended friday its back to 1079
 

neo6053

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wat a great thread !! COOL!!

hi, i'm a newbie .... but i just want to ask a simple question which i cant get a good answer from many other forums ... coz they keep suggesting the large monitor which is over my budget ..

HERE's THE SIMPLE QUESTION

what is the best 19' or 20' LCD ??
- mainly use for movie and some gaming
- around USD$200 (i'm from asia, i'm not quite know how much is $200 , but i think i just need a "not too pro" monitor)

sorry for asking this question although u've given some recommendation on the 1st page.. but i really need a clear answer coz i'm going to buy soon..

thx alot !!!



 

xtknight

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Originally posted by: neo6053
wat a great thread !! COOL!!

hi, i'm a newbie .... but i just want to ask a simple question which i cant get a good answer from many other forums ... coz they keep suggesting the large monitor which is over my budget ..

HERE's THE SIMPLE QUESTION

what is the best 19' or 20' LCD ??
- mainly use for movie and some gaming
- around USD$200 (i'm from asia, i'm not quite know how much is $200 , but i think i just need a "not too pro" monitor)

sorry for asking this question although u've given some recommendation on the 1st page.. but i really need a clear answer coz i'm going to buy soon..

thx alot !!!

Try the HP L2045w? Sorry, I really don't know what is available in Asia so you're really going to have to give me a link or something of possible monitors.

NEC 90GX2 is another great choice, as are most of the LG 2 ms 19" models.
 

Triplehammer

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Thank you very much for such an informative thread! I'm going to be buying three LCD monitors, and I've been doing a lot of research and have some notion of what I want to do, but still have a few questions left.

I have a genetic eye condition that has slowly wiped out most of my peripheral vision, so I am now replacing my CRT monitors with LCD monitors. I was just diagnosed with it - slowly losing your peripheral vision is a very sneaky process. My field of view is now 20 percent or so (borderline legal for driving). That my new monitors be easy on the eyes is obviously very important.

First, a few things I have discovered in my research that hasn't been posted about here that I can tell:

Samsung 226BW: recent customer reviews on newegg indicate that current stock now has panels that have the hidden service menu disabled, so now the only way to find out the panel type is to disassemble the unit. These customers seem very happy with these panels, so hopefully they are at least A panels, but how can we know? It still seems like the best choice for 22" widescreen monitors as they are only $270 at newegg, while the lowest price on the only real competitor, the LG L226WTY, is $353 at zipzoomfly.

Benq FP241W vs LG L246W: people say the L246W has the same panel as the FP241W. It seems commonly accepted on Hardforums and newegg customer reviews that both monitors have a P-MVA panel, but here you say it's an AMVA panel. Which is it, and what would the difference be? The FP241W is $640 at newegg, and the L246W is $550 at BestBuy; the cheaper cost is apparently attained by reducing the connection suite, with the L246W not even having a DVI port, but instead supplying an HDMI>DVI cable. A review here has the reviewer giving the L246W the edge on color and speed and the FP241W the edge on the connections, and keeping both the L246W and the FP241W.

My first monitor is on my main gaming PC (8800GTX, E6600, etc). It's a 24" (22.5" viewable) 16:10 widescreen CRT (the HP A7217A, also known as the Sony GDM-FW900). It is getting a bit hinky from old age anyway with odd blackouts if I stomp on certain areas of the floor and twinging when opening a windowed application like Firefox. I use this monitor almost exclusively for PC gaming - I don't play console games, and watch movies on a real TV. My original plan was to step up in size to a 24", like the Benq FP241W or the LG L246W. But with my reduced field of view, at my normal viewing distance I can no longer see the edge of my FW900 when looking at the center, so it seems like I should think smaller rather than larger. The 20.1" NEC 20WMGX2 seems like the ideal candidate for this in every way.

My second monitor is on my Mac Mini, which I use exclusively for web browsing, email and other text work - no games or movies at all. I do use it a lot, so "easy on the eyes" and good text are most important. It's an old Optiquest Q95 19" 4:3 (18" viewable) CRT that I have been running at 1024x768 because that's the comfortable size for me. My original plan was to keep it at 19" with something like the Viewsonic VP930b which got a lot of good reviews, but then I was thinking of the NEC 20WMGX2 since it's such a nice monitor (and you seem to prefer the 20WMGX2 over the VP930b even for text work). But then you said its dotpitch is not the best for text work, and that a 22" or 24" would be better for text work. 24" seems too big for just text work and my limited field of view, and I want to avoid the 22" TN panels entirely if I can, so should I settle for the 20WMGX2, or is there some S-IPS 19" monitor with better dotpitch?

The third monitor I am replacing is actually my wife's. She has an older LCD monitor, the 19" 1280x1024 4:3 Hyundai B90A, which is analog only (VGA cable hardwired). The computer has an 8600GT and Intel E4500. She does office work, web browsing, email and plays Popcap games (a lot) and is generally satisfied, but I'm sure a modern digital monitor would be a lot better (and she is expecting a new one as a gift - if I get new monitors, so does she!) Some speed is necessary for the Popcap games which rules out a lot of the "work only" monitors listed here like the Samsung 971P. I'm not sure if she would be comfortable with the smaller dotpitch of the 20WMGX2, and I definitely don't want to get her a 22" TN panel, so I'm thinking of bumping her up to the Benq FP241W or LG L246W (the lack of connections on the latter is of no concern as it will never be used for anything but her PC). It would be a pretty nice surprise for her if she got a bigger monitor than mine. Or, like for my Mac Mini, is there some S-IPS 19" that has a better dotpitch and is much easier on the eyes? I think I'd avoid glossy finish for her as she needs the monitor to be easy on the eyes too.

Wow, that was a lot of questions! I appreciate any suggestions you might have.
 
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