[Retired] The LCD Thread

[desh]

xtknight, is the NEC MultiSync 20WMGX2 the fastest (response time) widescreen LCD you've seen?

 

[Ruptga]

I don't suppose there could be a laptop section any time soon? The screen on this Inspiron E1505 is entirely unusable in direct sunlight, and still dim even in the shade, not to mention not a single one of the fifteen grays in the dark grayscale test showed up as such. I don't think I'd buy a laptop model just because of the screen, but it's definately something I want to look into for whenever I replace this thing, since this is my main and only computer.

 

[xtknight]

Originally posted by: ADDAvenger
I don't suppose there could be a laptop section any time soon? The screen on this Inspiron E1505 is entirely unusable in direct sunlight, and still dim even in the shade, not to mention not a single one of the fifteen grays in the dark grayscale test showed up as such. I don't think I'd buy a laptop model just because of the screen, but it's definately something I want to look into for whenever I replace this thing, since this is my main and only computer.

Sorry, there is simply not enough data to make such a section. Some Lenovo ThinkPads have S-IPS panels so you may look into those.

I have used the E1505 before and the reflections are indeed pretty crazy in the right conditions. You might be able to have the screen depolarized and converted into a typical anti-glare screen.

 

[xtknight]

Originally posted by: adamsleath
which company's implentation of this LTM190EX panel would be best for gaming and video.

and i wonder what the -L21 suffix denotes (i think it is the latest incarnation?)

I don't know. I haven't heard of 80% of those models, or haven't seen them reviewed. The NEC 90GX2 has a glossy coating though, and it's inevitably one of the best.

Just by the by; i was browsing through some shops in Brisbane, and chanced to see an

apple 24" - it looked pretty good (but also overpriced imo)
i have yet to see the dell 2407 or benq 24" p-mva in the flesh yet

i also saw the Sony Vaio notebook which has a 17" 1920x1200 screen ; now that looked bloody good: the dot pitch must be very small - i had to put my eyeball about 1 inch from the screen surface b4 i could make out any pixels.; anyway i was impressed

15.4" 1920x1200 screens are actually in wide circulation, also.

nothing else stood out...; except the LG TN screens i reckon all seemed to just "look better" than the equivalent samsungs (and i saw most of the varieties that have been recently discussed in this thread) - unfortunately i didnt take note of the lg codes - i think i'll have to go back for a second look.

i saw the samsung 215tw and it stood out amongst the rest also.

i did see the 226 samsung and it looked pretty good to me, BUT a couple of the LG's looked better imo.


just my first impressions as there were so many screens in the shop placed side by side. - but also hard to compare as they were all probably adjusted differently.


the lg's i thought looked better probably had a glossy surface - and having now seen the glossy surface it does seem to improve the image as far as i am concerned.

I don't know of any LG screens with a glossy surface, actually. They were probably just higher contrast.

A final comment on 24" screens - well i think it is simply amazing how large they look in comparison to 22" screens; personally i think 24" is perfectamundo and i am hoping that new technologies are put into this screen size.

Interesting and thanks for the observations/thoughts.

 

[dedejean]

Originally posted by: xtknight
I believe that the VX2235wm does not have this feature. Still, I am not sure.

You have an NVIDIA card, so you should be able to do it through the NVIDIA control panel (it's called aspect ratio scaling or centered if you want it that way). The NVIDIA method will work on any monitor because it sends the monitor a different signal depending on your settings.

thank you.

226BW vs VX2235wm ? seems indifferent. what would you choose, if those were only your options?

 

[xtknight]

Originally posted by: dedejean

Originally posted by: xtknight
I believe that the VX2235wm does not have this feature. Still, I am not sure.

You have an NVIDIA card, so you should be able to do it through the NVIDIA control panel (it's called aspect ratio scaling or centered if you want it that way). The NVIDIA method will work on any monitor because it sends the monitor a different signal depending on your settings.

thank you.

226BW vs VX2235wm ? seems indifferent. what would you choose, if those were only your options?

The 226BW easily. At least you have a chance of getting a Samsung panel, but if not you could get an AUO or CMO, for which calibration profiles are available. You'd always get AUO with the VX2235wm and I doubt anyone has profiled that monitor. Secondly I simply prefer Samsung as a brand.

 

[DaveLessnau]

xtnight,

Maybe I'm doing something wrong, but as of 0724 hrs Central Time on 05 Jun 2007, it looks like someone has taken over your lcdresource.com website.

 

[imported_eroman]

Hello, this may seem out of the blue but I would like a recommendation for a good LCD - decent colors, good response times and most importantly no artifacts in movies. I'm not a hardcore gamer or a graphics designer, still I want the best display price/quality wise.
So far I've taken notice of samsung's model 226BW, a wide 22' TN display. I also like the 20' samsung models. Does the 226BW support a resize to 4:3 if I need it? Also, what are other good choices in this price range (I think about 500$)?
Thank you

 

[alins]

xtnight,

I was wondering if you could recommend two LCD monitors, one 20", the other 24", under $700 or so. Primary use: photo editing, desktop publishing (Word, powerpoint, ...). I care less about response times as I play no games at all, and I can easily tolerate a few milliseconds of delay in the rare movie I watch here and there.

From reading a lot of the posts in the forum (what a great resource!), I would guess you'd recommend either the NEC 20WMGX2, or the Benq FP241W or the HP LP2465. The Benq is the most attractive in terms of price differential and the fact that it has an HDMI port (for future use). However in terms of raw photo/font viewing/editing, how would you rank these, and more importantly, are the differences in performance significant? Should I look into LG (say the new M228WA which has an HDMI port but a less desirable TN panel)?

BTW the NEC now has a $100 rebate.
http://images10.newegg.com/Upl...rsJun03Jun3007Tw18.pdf

Thanks very much

Alins

 

[lolgloin]

I have been "CRT for life" in the past, because LCD monitors could never give me what I needed for gaming. Recently, friends of mine have bought LCDs that have impressed me to some degree, and I get tired of carrying around my gigantic CRT when I need to. I need an LCD that allows me to game and not notice that I am using an LCD screen.

Also, I am curious about the 19" resolution restriction of 1280x1024. Isn't this a bottleneck on new video cards that are designed to work well at high resolutions? I would like to be able to utilize my video card to its full extent and not be caged in by a resolution. If it is a bottleneck, my specs I need are:

- < $300
- 1600x1200 Capable
- Low ms

Suggestions?

(Edit: I was looking at the 204B as a strong possibility)

 

[xtknight]

Originally posted by: DaveLessnau
xtnight,

Maybe I'm doing something wrong, but as of 0724 hrs Central Time on 05 Jun 2007, it looks like someone has taken over your lcdresource.com website.

Hm...thanks for the notification. I'll see what I can do.

As it stands I'm working on making a new website (had already been doing this for a week or so) and hopefully plan on updating it more. I can't make any promises there though. My first priority is just getting the old stuff (like gradient tests) back up and getting the 226BW on the recommendations list with a companion page offering color profiles should a user receive an "A" or "C" panel (or even "S").

Originally posted by: eroman
Hello, this may seem out of the blue but I would like a recommendation for a good LCD - decent colors, good response times and most importantly no artifacts in movies. I'm not a hardcore gamer or a graphics designer, still I want the best display price/quality wise.
So far I've taken notice of samsung's model 226BW, a wide 22' TN display. I also like the 20' samsung models. Does the 226BW support a resize to 4:3 if I need it? Also, what are other good choices in this price range (I think about 500$)?
Thank you

I don't think the 226BW has 4:3 support, although any NVIDIA card can do that. The LG L226WT is the most compelling choice in the same price range, and it's not subject to as much of a panel lottery as the 226BW is. Its best panel is better than the 226BW's best panel.

Originally posted by: alins
xtnight,

I was wondering if you could recommend two LCD monitors, one 20", the other 24", under $700 or so. Primary use: photo editing, desktop publishing (Word, powerpoint, ...). I care less about response times as I play no games at all, and I can easily tolerate a few milliseconds of delay in the rare movie I watch here and there.

From reading a lot of the posts in the forum (what a great resource!), I would guess you'd recommend either the NEC 20WMGX2, or the Benq FP241W or the HP LP2465.

I taught you well. The 20WMGX2 and FP241W are the first things that came to mind. I suppose the HP isn't too bad either but I'm more confident of the FP241W and there's nothing wrong with the BenQ. I think the BenQ is cheaper too.

The Benq is the most attractive in terms of price differential and the fact that it has an HDMI port (for future use). However in terms of raw photo/font viewing/editing, how would you rank these, and more importantly, are the differences in performance significant? Should I look into LG (say the new M228WA which has an HDMI port but a less desirable TN panel)?

The BenQ has good to great color accuracy, and most importantly, least backlight bleed and best grayscale compared to the Dell 2407 and other Samsung S-PVA-based 24" LCDs. The LG contains the same P-MVA, I just don't have the data/opinions on that that I do on the FP241W, hence I'm not as confident recommending it. I stand firmly by those monitors recommended in the OP. I rarely recommend somebody a monitor that isn't listed up there unless they can't get the 'first choice' model.

I'm pretty sure the LG M* monitors are their multimedia line, but I haven't found any reviews or data on the M228WA. If I had to take a guess, it's very similar to the L226WA or maybe even a newer name and slightly newer rev for that Canadian/multimedia model of the popular LG L226WT.

BTW the NEC now has a $100 rebate.
http://images10.newegg.com/Upl...rsJun03Jun3007Tw18.pdf

Thanks very much

Alins

Wow, great to see the price of the NEC falling like a rock. Still not low enough for my "hot deals" though...maybe a "warm deal".

 

[xtknight]

Originally posted by: desh
xtknight, is the NEC MultiSync 20WMGX2 the fastest (response time) widescreen LCD you've seen?

Yes, it's among the fastest widescreen monitors out there (if it is not the fastest). There may be a few 19" widescreens that boast a faster response, but getting a screen that has but a 3ms advantage over the NEC is beyond the definition of silly. The NEC has innumerable advantages over such a 19".

 

[xtknight]

Originally posted by: lolgloin
I have been "CRT for life" in the past, because LCD monitors could never give me what I needed for gaming. Recently, friends of mine have bought LCDs that have impressed me to some degree, and I get tired of carrying around my gigantic CRT when I need to. I need an LCD that allows me to game and not notice that I am using an LCD screen.

Also, I am curious about the 19" resolution restriction of 1280x1024. Isn't this a bottleneck on new video cards that are designed to work well at high resolutions? I would like to be able to utilize my video card to its full extent and not be caged in by a resolution. If it is a bottleneck, my specs I need are:

1280x1024 isn't really a bottleneck on the newest games. You can still use AA and everything, plus it's not like 1600x1200 gives you any more real game area anyway...just more detail per polygon (except for some RTSes, perhaps).

- < $300
- 1600x1200 Capable
- Low ms

Suggestions?

(Edit: I was looking at the 204B as a strong possibility)

If not the 204B, I'm not sure what.

The 204B doesn't have overdrive, meaning you will at least have low input lag but response time won't be the best. The 204B's viewing angle is notoriously poor, though.

Give it some thought, but consider spending around $400 and getting the HP LP2065, or grabbing a high-quality 19" like the NEC 90GX2 (glossy) instead. There's also the Acer AL2051W which I highly recommend. It's a glossy, good-value 20" widescreen.

LP2065 is available for $350 (AR) at Newegg.

For $50/300 (16%) more than the 204B, you not only get a much wider viewing angle in both directions (S-IPS panel), but better response time (with still a low input lag), and most importantly true 8-bit color and a more uniform backlight. The panel also has a better gamma compensation factor by default, meaning truer color reproduction and less washout.

 

[dedejean]

Originally posted by: xtknight

Originally posted by: dedejean

Originally posted by: xtknight
I believe that the VX2235wm does not have this feature. Still, I am not sure.

You have an NVIDIA card, so you should be able to do it through the NVIDIA control panel (it's called aspect ratio scaling or centered if you want it that way). The NVIDIA method will work on any monitor because it sends the monitor a different signal depending on your settings.

thank you.

226BW vs VX2235wm ? seems indifferent. what would you choose, if those were only your options?

The 226BW easily. At least you have a chance of getting a Samsung panel, but if not you could get an AUO or CMO, for which calibration profiles are available. You'd always get AUO with the VX2235wm and I doubt anyone has profiled that monitor. Secondly I simply prefer Samsung as a brand.

what are my chances? i read somewhere that S flavor was stopped early this year and i am residing in the Philippines, a 3rd (maybe 4th now) world country. I dont think i have a good chance of getting that "S".

oh btw, where can i see what panel i got? Do i have to open the package before i buy it?

I've been reading some quite disappointing reviews on 226bw, especially on its brightness distribution across the screen... whats your opinion on vx2235wm?

http://www.sharkyforums.com/showthread.php?t=296292

EDIT:

i found someone here selling 226BW C panel... hows that compared to S? behardware.com found out that there are already total of 4 panels for 226bw. S, A, C (CMO) and another C (CPT). Where they concluded that "S panels are preferable to As, which are in turn preferable to Cs"... this is so hard for me...

 

[alins]

Originally posted by: xtknight
I taught you well. The 20WMGX2 and FP241W are the first things that came to mind. I suppose the HP isn't too bad either but I'm more confident of the FP241W and there's nothing wrong with the BenQ. I think the BenQ is cheaper too.

You did teach me well

So now, if you were to pick between the BenQ and the NEC, for photo editing and word processing, which would be your choice? Which has advantages in terms of color accuracy and all the other good stuff photographers and writers look for? I guess what I am asking is, if I get the BenQ (which I'm leaning toward), will I miss something more/better that the NEC has, no matter how small?

Also, I suppose if I get the NEC, and need to connect an HDMI DVD player to it, I can always use a DVI-HDMI adapter - is this correct?

Thanks again!
Alins

 

[route66]

I have a $300 gift cert at Dell and need a 1680x1050 monitor. These seem to be the best choices, but I'm not thrilled by any of them. What would you recommend?

Dell 2007WFP
Samsung 206BW
NEC MultiSync LCD2070WNX-BK

Thanks.

 

[imported_eroman]

xtknight, thank you for all the effort you have spend on this thread, it does a miracle for people like me who have had no previous knowledge of tft display technology.

I saw you recommend "HP LP2065", it is stated to have an S-IPS panel with 8ms GtG and 16ms BWB transitions. It seems a great deal for the relatively low price it has. Can you share some experience about how good are those reaction times for games and if the model has any manufactoring defects, such as bleeds or artifacts due to overdrive.
And how does it compare against, for example, the
http://www.prad.de/en/guide/screen3732.html (HP Pavilion w2007), which has the TN panel but also seems to get good reviews.

 

[lolgloin]

Originally posted by: xtknight

Originally posted by: lolgloin
I have been "CRT for life" in the past, because LCD monitors could never give me what I needed for gaming. Recently, friends of mine have bought LCDs that have impressed me to some degree, and I get tired of carrying around my gigantic CRT when I need to. I need an LCD that allows me to game and not notice that I am using an LCD screen.

Also, I am curious about the 19" resolution restriction of 1280x1024. Isn't this a bottleneck on new video cards that are designed to work well at high resolutions? I would like to be able to utilize my video card to its full extent and not be caged in by a resolution. If it is a bottleneck, my specs I need are:

1280x1024 isn't really a bottleneck on the newest games. You can still use AA and everything, plus it's not like 1600x1200 gives you any more real game area anyway...just more detail per polygon (except for some RTSes, perhaps).

- < $300
- 1600x1200 Capable
- Low ms

Suggestions?

(Edit: I was looking at the 204B as a strong possibility)

If not the 204B, I'm not sure what.

The 204B doesn't have overdrive, meaning you will at least have low input lag but response time won't be the best. The 204B's viewing angle is notoriously poor, though.

Give it some thought, but consider spending around $400 and getting the HP LP2065, or grabbing a high-quality 19" like the NEC 90GX2 (glossy) instead. There's also the Acer AL2051W which I highly recommend. It's a glossy, good-value 20" widescreen.

LP2065 is available for $350 (AR) at Newegg.

For $50/300 (16%) more than the 204B, you not only get a much wider viewing angle in both directions (S-IPS panel), but better response time (with still a low input lag), and most importantly true 8-bit color and a more uniform backlight. The panel also has a better gamma compensation factor by default, meaning truer color reproduction and less washout.

Thanks for your help, I'll probably grab the 90GX2. I decided that the 1280x1024 max resolution wasn't a big deal

 

[Starbuck1975]

No. CCleaner does not touch the devices or system hive of the registry like an app such as Driver Cleaner. It cleans application and shell cache only.

Go to the command line (start menu run, type "cmd"). Type the following commands (ignoring >).

> set DEVMGR_SHOW_NONPRESENT_DEVICES=1
> devmgmt.msc

Select view->show hidden devices (or similar) in GUI.

Remove everything in the monitors or displays section (even gray items) of the device manager ignoring all warnings, and reboot your computer.

xtknight. Thanks for the more detailed instructions. Didn't realize you had posted to the thread again. I just tried these instructions at work to make sure I understand how to do it...will attempt these steps tonight and report back if it works.

 

[xtknight]

Website is back up. Still planning on getting a new one, along with the 226BW color profiles and what not. Still in design phase though so we'll see. Prolly be a couple weeks yet due to finals.

 

[aCynic2]

I wanted to say, I picked up a Hanns·G HW-223DPB 22" widescreen 1080P from newegg. One of the reviewers who gave it bad marks claimed it was a TN.

I did your dark grey scale test and I noticed a difference in the colors. It was subtle, but it was there. Does that mean my monitor isn't a TN version or perhaps a better quality TN?

Here's the thing, I notice it looking straight on or looking downward (it get more pronounced). If I get low and look at it at a slight upward angle, it's all black, but if I make the angle more pronounced, the distinction between colors starts to show up again.

 

[Starbuck1975]

xtknight,

Once again thank you for the help in troubleshooting my driver issue on the LG226WT.

I followed the instructions you posted, and when I went into device manager, and there was only one monitor listed under the "Monitors" directory...I ensured to enable hidden devices...and the only monitor listed is my current "Plug and Play" monitor.

Interestingly enough, when I follow the same steps on my work computer, I see three ghost monitors hidden in my "Monitors" directory.

Since building my current rig, with a fresh OS install, I have had three different monitors attached...my previous Samsung CRT, the LG 226WTQ I returned, and my current LG 226WT...the only monitor registering is the "Plug & Play" monitor, which is my 226WT.

 

[xtknight]

Originally posted by: dedejean
what are my chances? i read somewhere that S flavor was stopped early this year and i am residing in the Philippines, a 3rd (maybe 4th now) world country. I dont think i have a good chance of getting that "S".

No idea, honestly.

oh btw, where can i see what panel i got? Do i have to open the package before i buy it?

Samsung has removed this item from their service menu, and also from the packaging. So you can't, which sucks. And that reminds me, I'm wondering if I recommend the 226BW and offer color profiles, how are you going to know what freaking panel you've got? :\ I don't think that's going to work.

I've been reading some quite disappointing reviews on 226bw, especially on its brightness distribution across the screen... whats your opinion on vx2235wm?

http://www.sharkyforums.com/showthread.php?t=296292

EDIT:

i found someone here selling 226BW C panel... hows that compared to S? behardware.com found out that there are already total of 4 panels for 226bw. S, A, C (CMO) and another C (CPT). Where they concluded that "S panels are preferable to As, which are in turn preferable to Cs"... this is so hard for me...

The VX2235WM is an AUO (or CMO?) panel. Is the LG L226WT not available in your area? That's by the far the best 22" out there. You'd be missing out with the CMO 22" panels although you could try the 22" CMO and AUO color profiles, they are supposed to help get it up to the Samsung panel's performance. Good luck whatever route you may take.

Originally posted by: alins

Originally posted by: xtknight
I taught you well. The 20WMGX2 and FP241W are the first things that came to mind. I suppose the HP isn't too bad either but I'm more confident of the FP241W and there's nothing wrong with the BenQ. I think the BenQ is cheaper too.

You did teach me well

So now, if you were to pick between the BenQ and the NEC, for photo editing and word processing, which would be your choice? Which has advantages in terms of color accuracy and all the other good stuff photographers and writers look for? I guess what I am asking is, if I get the BenQ (which I'm leaning toward), will I miss something more/better that the NEC has, no matter how small?

The NEC really is better overall, but the BenQ's size makes it more enticing. Additionally, the BenQ is in the "good enough" region far enough that most people would get the BenQ due to bigger size. Sticklers like me would stay with the NEC for anything serious. The NEC's glossy coating really makes it incredible, and there is only one 'best'. That is unquestionably the NEC on every front, except for size. The BenQ's non-glossy coating and worse viewing angles are big put-offs for me, compared to what the NEC has to offer. I have seen what the 20WMGX2 has to offer, and I am thoroughly impressed.

Also, I suppose if I get the NEC, and need to connect an HDMI DVD player to it, I can always use a DVI-HDMI adapter - is this correct?

That is correct, to my knowledge.

Originally posted by: route66
I have a $300 gift cert at Dell and need a 1680x1050 monitor. These seem to be the best choices, but I'm not thrilled by any of them. What would you recommend?

Dell 2007WFP
Samsung 206BW
NEC MultiSync LCD2070WNX-BK

Thanks.

Take a gamble and get the 2007WFP. Just hope you get an S-IPS panel, but if not you'll end up with an S-PVA which really can't be any worse than the TNs you'd be stuck with had you gotten the other two.

Originally posted by: eroman
xtknight, thank you for all the effort you have spend on this thread, it does a miracle for people like me who have had no previous knowledge of tft display technology.

I saw you recommend "HP LP2065", it is stated to have an S-IPS panel with 8ms GtG and 16ms BWB transitions. It seems a great deal for the relatively low price it has. Can you share some experience about how good are those reaction times for games and if the model has any manufactoring defects, such as bleeds or artifacts due to overdrive.

The LP2065 uses the LPL LM201U05 panel. I've had experience using an LPL LM201U05 panel (the 2007FP) and I was pretty impressed by the response time. There really weren't any overdrive control problems at all. That is of course governed by the DSP in the LCD, to my knowledge, and the Dell contains a Genesis DSP. Not sure what the HP contains. I'm guessing it can't be much worse (or for that matter, better), anyway. I reported on the 2007FP (LM201U05 family) here: http://lcdresource.com/index.p...k=view&id=44&Itemid=36

And how does it compare against, for example, the
http://www.prad.de/en/guide/screen3732.html (HP Pavilion w2007), which has the TN panel but also seems to get good reviews.

Well, I'm going to stick with an S-IPS panel, personally. TNs just have too many viewing angle problems for me. Maybe it doesn't bother you as much; in that case, the HP could perhaps be a better choice strictly for multimedia because of its glossy coating (that really is hard to pass up). TNs like that tend to have great contrast too, but I don't know that for sure because I don't know who manufactures the HP w2007's panel. It might be an LPL 20" widescreen TN like the L204WT and L206WT.

If you're more of a general usage guy who may be more annoyed by the viewing angle problems, get the LP2065. If you do movies/games and stuff, the w2007 actually may be better at dark detail, and the contrast will probably be higher. It may have better response time, too.

 

[xtknight]

Originally posted by: aCynic2
I wanted to say, I picked up a Hanns·G HW-223DPB 22" widescreen 1080P from newegg. One of the reviewers who gave it bad marks claimed it was a TN.

I don't know how it's 1080p but that would certainly be cool. Maybe it can input 1080p but its native resolution is only 1680x1050.

I did your dark grey scale test and I noticed a difference in the colors. It was subtle, but it was there. Does that mean my monitor isn't a TN version or perhaps a better quality TN?

That would indicate a fairly typical to good TN.

Here's the thing, I notice it looking straight on or looking downward (it get more pronounced). If I get low and look at it at a slight upward angle, it's all black, but if I make the angle more pronounced, the distinction between colors starts to show up again.

That definitely indicates a TN panel (the color shifting). The crystals are unable to block the same amount of light in every direction. It will be the inverse at the opposite angle, and the film they put on TN significantly reduces the problem so that it doesn't totally invert, but the compensation isn't perfect. It doesn't do much good unless you see the grayscale all the way from a perpendicular angle. You won't be using your LCD at wide angles most of the time, will you? Even if you can see more dark details at that angle, you won't have the bright details or they will be washed out. With TNs, you're dealing with a different trade-off at every angle you view it at.

Originally posted by: Starbuck1975
xtknight,

Once again thank you for the help in troubleshooting my driver issue on the LG226WT.

I followed the instructions you posted, and when I went into device manager, and there was only one monitor listed under the "Monitors" directory...I ensured to enable hidden devices...and the only monitor listed is my current "Plug and Play" monitor.

Interestingly enough, when I follow the same steps on my work computer, I see three ghost monitors hidden in my "Monitors" directory.

Since building my current rig, with a fresh OS install, I have had three different monitors attached...my previous Samsung CRT, the LG 226WTQ I returned, and my current LG 226WT...the only monitor registering is the "Plug & Play" monitor, which is my 226WT.

I don't know how to fix your forteManager problems, then. It is probably a bug in the software. You should email LG about it or try a new version of the program. Not a fun job but somebody's gotta do it, or else it will never work on their L226WT[X] models. It's more likely just a driver incompatibility (it doesn't work with Catalyst ver. X or ForceWare ver. X).

 

[alins]

The NEC really is better overall, but the BenQ's size makes it more enticing. Additionally, the BenQ is in the "good enough" region far enough that most people would get the BenQ due to bigger size. Sticklers like me would stay with the NEC for anything serious. The NEC's glossy coating really makes it incredible, and there is only one 'best'. That is unquestionably the NEC on every front, except for size. The BenQ's non-glossy coating and worse viewing angles are big put-offs for me, compared to what the NEC has to offer. I have seen what the 20WMGX2 has to offer, and I am thoroughly impressed.

Thanks very much. I will then either go with the NEC now, or wait a few months to see if NEC releases a comparable 24 inch ...

Your help has been greatly appreciated.

Alins